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08-05-2021, 07:31 PM | #45 |
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Knockoffs are so easy to make now. Anyone with a 3d printer can print those coil packs and make it do the suction noise when u pop it out to sound like the oem ones. And the connectors u can melt like other metals or pennies and carve it out to that shape.
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08-05-2021, 07:41 PM | #46 |
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Bought plenty of stuff from FCP that I've installed or used in the car already. Not one part I've had was fake or threw any new code.
But I replaced 6 Bosch Black coil packs with silver Delphi coil packs. After around 20,000 miles one of the coils started throwing codes. Had it replaced for free but still paid return shipping. 2 months later one more coil threw up a code. Then I decided to replace 5 more coils and paid return shipping. It would've been better if they paid return shipping on one of the them or atleast let me use their subsidized shipping prices. But it still was 60% cheaper than BMW stealership prices. But despite all this I still wouldn't say those Delphis were cheap Chinese parts lacking serious proof. |
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08-05-2021, 07:58 PM | #48 |
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Did they smell like Chinese food? If so—fake.
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08-05-2021, 08:13 PM | #49 |
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Yeah, seems they may ship returns occasionally. I’ve heard a lot of bad stuff about RockAuto too, so I may just go back to Tischer BMW.
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08-05-2021, 11:28 PM | #50 | |
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08-06-2021, 02:31 AM | #51 | |
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I ordered TRW M3 wishbones, and the next day it said the one side was backordered. Then a few days later I got my shipment which had one brand new TRW wishbone in a box and one BMW branded wishbone with just an opened plastic bag around it, with the M logo still intact, and a BMW part label sticker over the plastic ball joint protector. This "Genuine BMW" part shipped in the same box from the same warehouse with all my other parts that weren't genuine BMW parts. First thing I noticed is that the BMW part looks like it was refurbished. All the casting marks are worn smooth, where the new TRW part has all the sharp castings intact. The rubber boots on the inner bushing and ball joint are brand new, and the threads on the ball joint looks brand new, it's just the casting on the arm itself looks like it was used and cleaned up. Did BMW ever refurbish these arms? If so, is there any guarantee that they're straight? I haven't installed them yet, but this has been bugging me and I'm going to ask for a replacement and get the correct TRW branded arm that I ordered. Last edited by lowrydr310; 08-06-2021 at 02:39 AM.. |
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I think it is more likely to get returned items from shitty customers who put fake parts back in the box than actual fake parts from FCP. Anything is possible though. You can't even buy oil filters at walmart now without checking to make sure some asshole didn't put a used one or cheaper one in the box.
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Definitely return it. Do not waste the time to put in questionable parts and then regret it. Some TRW or Lamforder arms would come in thick plastic bags, while smaller Lamforder parts (shock mounts, sway bar links) in unsealed cardboard boxes.
There are always Rockauto, RM European, or Tischer (now BMW of Silver Spring or getbmwparts.com). Quote:
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08-06-2021, 10:48 AM | #55 |
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Therefore if a bad apple customer returned "supposedly new" BMW control arms, they would wind up on shelf for the next unsuspecting customer?
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08-06-2021, 11:17 AM | #56 | |
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08-06-2021, 11:58 AM | #57 |
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I think it's easier to make these mock ones cheaply from playdoh. Who cares about suction noise. Even toddlers can make them.
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08-07-2021, 11:38 AM | #58 | |
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08-07-2021, 11:43 AM | #59 | |
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My mechanic got used M3 control arms from them, not me. Take the story with a grain of salt, but anything can be returned to FCP so it only makes sense SOME shady inventory may get back into their control if it's not checked/thrown out. I'm not saying they knowingly do it, but now I've experienced myself and have a trusted BMW Master tech saying he won't install parts from them. I'm going dealer or Tischer BMW from now on. Do what you think is best. |
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08-07-2021, 11:53 AM | #60 |
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I get what you said. I also got that WTF feeling looking at a couple of the parts I got and I only bought a few times. That was enough for me to get off FCP.
I think most of us can tell what real, new inventory looks like. I am sure they will make it right, but I do not need the hassle. |
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For something that you'll replace once, probably doesn't matter, but for common parts, their guarantee is worth dealing with the aliens. |
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From what I experienced, all the evidence points to fake Bosch. Not a bad batch of real Bosch. |
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08-13-2021, 10:27 AM | #63 | |
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Just want to assure you guys that selling fake anything is not a game that we play here at FCP Euro. We have a thorough vetting process and QA process for all of the parts that we offer, that's not to say we haven't seen products from reputable suppliers be dead on arrival or prematurely fail. It happens, and if we see a pattern we address it with the manufacturer. If you ever have an issue with a part, reach out to service@fcpeuro.com and give us the opportunity to help. -- I'm the guy playing with the Bosch coils in this video Kyle @ FCP |
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08-15-2021, 10:51 AM | #66 | |
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From that perspective, the service is great. I will say that the Bosch coils might need a closer look. The fact I had a failure in <10 miles on every cylinder, the Bosch coils didn't weigh as much as my stock ones, and the packaging looking somewhat off makes me think you guys got a bad supplier or bad return that got into inventory. |
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