Overpowering my tires? Need recommendations

Jdub679 · 11-21-2013, 04:34 PM

I really didn't think I'd come to a point where I'd overpower my tires. In 2nd on flat dry ground, they consistently break away when I go full throttle. 3rd gear hangs on just fine. My tire specs are Hankook Ventus V12 (255 rear on stock M Sport 18" rims). I've got about 20k miles on them, but believe me, I am a pretty easy driver (sporty, but no burnouts and rare runs to redline). Eyeballing the tread, it looks like I've got tread left (maybe 5-10k miles, estimated). My car has a Jb4 tune, running 40% E85 (~17-18 psi map 5), BMW PE exhaust. I don't foresee any other big power mods in the near future.

So my question is, would upgrading to 265 rears take care of my 2nd gear traction issues?

I am considering the Michelin PSS for the rears as well. But is it okay to mix front and rear tire brands?

XstheticMotorsports · 11-21-2013, 05:02 PM

Wider & Stickier tires will fix most of the issues. If you're just doing mostly street driving, mix tires will be okay.

Nitrous Garage · 11-21-2013, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jdub679

I really didn't think I'd come to a point where I'd overpower my tires. In 2nd on flat dry ground, they consistently break away when I go full throttle. 3rd gear hangs on just fine. My tire specs are Hankook Ventus V12 (255 rear on stock M Sport 18" rims). I've got about 20k miles on them, but believe me, I am a pretty easy driver (sporty, but no burnouts and rare runs to redline). Eyeballing the tread, it looks like I've got tread left (maybe 5-10k miles, estimated). My car has a Jb4 tune, running 40% E85 (~17-18 psi map 5), BMW PE exhaust. I don't foresee any other big power mods in the near future.

So my question is, would upgrading to 265 rears take care of my 2nd gear traction issues?

I am considering the Michelin PSS for the rears as well. But is it okay to mix front and rear tire brands?

I have personally dealt with your problem. I had ventus V12 tires on my old G37 and after a 20-25K miles they would never hook up! Michelin PSS tires would be perfect for you. I run them now on my 135i and are great for high horsepower.

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Gary@TireRack · 11-22-2013, 11:41 AM

As long as cold temps aren't to blame, a switch in tire type to one such as the Michelin Pilot Super Sport would help a great deal.

Tires http://www.tirerack.com/a.jsp?a=AH8&...ires/index.jsp

Rmk392 · 11-22-2013, 11:50 AM

don't expect much from the v12 tires , they are cheap and break loose easy. I have them on mine right now and the only time they really stuck to the ground was in the heat of summer. Won't be getting these cheap tires again. And I am running 265 in the rear.

Jdub679 · 11-22-2013, 12:58 PM

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don't expect much from the v12 tires , they are cheap and break loose easy. I have them on mine right now and the only time they really stuck to the ground was in the heat of summer. Won't be getting these cheap tires again. And I am running 265 in the rear.

Thanks for your personal experience. Looks like my next set will be PSS's in 265's.

rolando316 · 11-22-2013, 03:03 PM

+1 on the PSS! I stuck some 275's in the back and they made a huge difference with traction (FBO w/ e50 pro-tune). With just 91 octane and with the tires warm they would actually do a pretty good job of even hooking 1st gear so I'd HIGHLY recommend them.

dragazn · 11-22-2013, 03:39 PM

I'm on 265/35/19 and the wider 10mm on both side will not help you, my tire was pretty worn on 10k mile as well. If you trying to save money go easy on the acceleration. Not sure if you go expensive tire that would save or not, since on the top the bat you already paying a premium for the tire price.

Jdub679 · 11-22-2013, 03:43 PM

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I'm on 265/35/19 and the wider 10mm on both side will not help you, my tire was pretty worn on 10k mile as well. If you trying to save money go easy on the acceleration. Not sure if you go expensive tire that would save or not, since on the top the bat you already paying a premium for the tire price.

Not trying to save money or mileage. The 3 is my weekend car. Just want the correct traction for the mods that I have. No sense in more power mods if I can't put any power down to the ground below 3rd gear. lol

dragazn · 11-22-2013, 03:46 PM

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Not trying to save money or mileage. The 3 is my weekend car. Just want the correct traction for the mods that I have. No sense in more power mods if I can't put any power down to the ground below 3rd gear. lol

If that the case, LSD does wonder and it will ensure you all the power to the wheel and nothing get robs

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Jdub679 Captain 88 Rep 644 Posts Drives: 2011 BMW 335i coupe M Sport Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Irvine, CA iTrader: (1)	Overpowering my tires? Need recommendations I really didn't think I'd come to a point where I'd overpower my tires. In 2nd on flat dry ground, they consistently break away when I go full throttle. 3rd gear hangs on just fine. My tire specs are Hankook Ventus V12 (255 rear on stock M Sport 18" rims). I've got about 20k miles on them, but believe me, I am a pretty easy driver (sporty, but no burnouts and rare runs to redline). Eyeballing the tread, it looks like I've got tread left (maybe 5-10k miles, estimated). My car has a Jb4 tune, running 40% E85 (~17-18 psi map 5), BMW PE exhaust. I don't foresee any other big power mods in the near future. So my question is, would upgrading to 265 rears take care of my 2nd gear traction issues? I am considering the Michelin PSS for the rears as well. But is it okay to mix front and rear tire brands?
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Rmk392 First Lieutenant 28 Rep 367 Posts Drives: E92 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	don't expect much from the v12 tires , they are cheap and break loose easy. I have them on mine right now and the only time they really stuck to the ground was in the heat of summer. Won't be getting these cheap tires again. And I am running 265 in the rear.
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rolando316 Private 1 Rep 82 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW 335i E92 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: SF Bay Area iTrader: (0)	+1 on the PSS! I stuck some 275's in the back and they made a huge difference with traction (FBO w/ e50 pro-tune). With just 91 octane and with the tires warm they would actually do a pretty good job of even hooking 1st gear so I'd HIGHLY recommend them. __________________ 2007 335i E92 Space Gray 6MT \| COBB PTF e50 \| BMS DCI \| VRSF 5" Intercooler \| VRSF Downpipes \| Walbro Inline 255 \| Spec Stg 2+ \| SM Steel Flywheel \| ST V1 Coilovers \| M3 Front Contol Bits \| Linea Corse LM 19" \| 245/275 Michelin PSS \| M3 Front \| M3 Side Skirts \| MTech Rear \| LCI Tails-Euro \| JL 12w3v3
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dragazn Major 43 Rep 1,071 Posts Drives: i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: "" iTrader: (1) Garage List 2008 BMW 335i [5.76]	I'm on 265/35/19 and the wider 10mm on both side will not help you, my tire was pretty worn on 10k mile as well. If you trying to save money go easy on the acceleration. Not sure if you go expensive tire that would save or not, since on the top the bat you already paying a premium for the tire price.
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