Excessive inner wear on front tires

cjdzombie · 10-12-2018, 03:28 PM

When working under the car I noticed that both front tires have excessive inner wear. The back tires are in good shape and were installed at the same time. What would cause this? What do I need adjusted? Are the tires toast?

Biginboca · 10-12-2018, 05:12 PM

Could be your toe is off or could be you like taking on ramps really fast.

weehe126 · 10-12-2018, 08:39 PM

Too much toe in, get an alignment.

mweisdorfer · 10-14-2018, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjdzombie

When working under the car I noticed that both front tires have excessive inner wear. The back tires are in good shape and were installed at the same time. What would cause this? What do I need adjusted? Are the tires toast?

You can solve this problem by installing M3 control arms. They have a natural .75 negative camber and therefore do not allow for uneven wear like you are seeing on your tires.

If you are over 100,000 miles, do the tie-rods while you are in there.

weehe126 · 10-14-2018, 10:12 PM

Last time I checked you can still adjust toe with M3 control arms. I recommend them as well but the tire wear fix would come after the alignment.

ckanderson · 10-15-2018, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weehe126

Too much toe in, get an alignment.

False; inner tire wear comes from too much toe out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mweisdorfer

You can solve this problem by installing M3 control arms. They have a natural .75 negative camber and therefore do not allow for uneven wear like you are seeing on your tires.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

parksjm7 · 10-15-2018, 01:21 PM

Looks to be result of too much toe out / negative camber or both on front wheels

cjdzombie · 10-22-2018, 11:32 AM

So I took the car in for an alignment and got some curious feedback. They said my camber was off and they couldn't adjust it. They said the springs were worn out and needed to be replaced. I thought that springs had a longer life expectancy. My car only has around 62K on it. I know the front shocks are probably due, but I thought I was good with just reusing the springs when I did the shock replacements. Are these guys full of it or could the springs really need replaced? They did align everything else though, so hopefully that will slow down the inner tire wear.

weehe126 · 10-22-2018, 11:51 AM

Post a pic of the new alignment sheet.

cjdzombie · 10-22-2018, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weehe126

Post a pic of the new alignment sheet.

No prob. I'll post a pic when get home this evening.

10-22-2018, 12:34 PM

They're idiots.

Go to a new shop.

cjdzombie · 10-22-2018, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FCobra94

They're idiots.

Go to a new shop.

I had a feeling that was the case. What exactly do you disagree with? I'm still trying to narrow down what needs corrected.

BSM n54iS · 10-22-2018, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjdzombie

What exactly do you disagree with?

Everything they told you.

cjdzombie · 10-22-2018, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weehe126

Post a pic of the new alignment sheet.

Here is the print out they gave me.

10-22-2018, 04:38 PM

cant read that

cjdzombie · 10-22-2018, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FCobra94

cant read that

Hmm. Wonder if the app down grades the quality. Here it is again zoomed in a bit. Not sure if this one worked either. I upload from my computer later.

BSM n54iS · 10-22-2018, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FCobra94

cant read that

I'm cracking up

cjdzombie · 10-22-2018, 07:00 PM

Here is a link to the pic. Sorry the app uploads crap quality images.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZNyQCrgfUT68oyjk9

10-22-2018, 10:04 PM

Omg, you paid money for that alignment!? Come on Corey...

Your "after" numbers look worse than most peeps "before" numbers.

cjdzombie · 10-23-2018, 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FCobra94

Omg, you paid money for that alignment!? Come on Corey...

Your "after" numbers look worse than most peeps "before" numbers.

Thay sucks. I'm not very knowledgeable about alignments. Guess I'll have to go elsewhere to get it done correctly. What are the correct specs I need?

cjdzombie · 10-24-2018, 07:39 PM

So had the car checked by another shop and not surprisingly they found the car's alignment was jacked up. I took the proof the the original shop and got a reluctant refund. Wil be getting it corrected tomorrow.

10-12-2018, 03:28 PM	#1
cjdzombie First Lieutenant 76 Rep 290 Posts Drives: 2011 E92 335i xDrive, M Sport Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Cincinnati iTrader: (0)	Excessive inner wear on front tires When working under the car I noticed that both front tires have excessive inner wear. The back tires are in good shape and were installed at the same time. What would cause this? What do I need adjusted? Are the tires toast? Attached Images __________________ 2011 E92 335i xDrive M-Sport MHD 93 Stage 2+ \| xHP Stage 3 \| xDelete \| Catless Downpipe \| Phoenix Racing Intercooler \| ARM CP \| AFE Drop In Filter
	Appreciate 0 Tweet Quote

10-12-2018, 05:12 PM	#2
Biginboca Colonel 3764 Rep 2,738 Posts Drives: 2009 E92 328i 6MT Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Boynton Beach, FL... USA iTrader: (3)	Could be your toe is off or could be you like taking on ramps really fast.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-12-2018, 08:39 PM	#3
weehe126 Brigadier General 1161 Rep 3,189 Posts Drives: 2017 340i Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: San Antonio iTrader: (2)	Too much toe in, get an alignment.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-14-2018, 10:12 PM	#5
weehe126 Brigadier General 1161 Rep 3,189 Posts Drives: 2017 340i Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: San Antonio iTrader: (2)	Last time I checked you can still adjust toe with M3 control arms. I recommend them as well but the tire wear fix would come after the alignment.
	Appreciate 1 Quote

10-15-2018, 01:21 PM	#7
parksjm7 Second Lieutenant 81 Rep 228 Posts Drives: E92 07 335i Join Date: May 2012 Location: Edison, NJ iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 BMW 335i [0.00] 2002 Honda [0.00]	Looks to be result of too much toe out / negative camber or both on front wheels
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-22-2018, 11:32 AM	#8
cjdzombie First Lieutenant 76 Rep 290 Posts Drives: 2011 E92 335i xDrive, M Sport Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Cincinnati iTrader: (0)	So I took the car in for an alignment and got some curious feedback. They said my camber was off and they couldn't adjust it. They said the springs were worn out and needed to be replaced. I thought that springs had a longer life expectancy. My car only has around 62K on it. I know the front shocks are probably due, but I thought I was good with just reusing the springs when I did the shock replacements. Are these guys full of it or could the springs really need replaced? They did align everything else though, so hopefully that will slow down the inner tire wear. __________________ 2011 E92 335i xDrive M-Sport MHD 93 Stage 2+ \| xHP Stage 3 \| xDelete \| Catless Downpipe \| Phoenix Racing Intercooler \| ARM CP \| AFE Drop In Filter
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-22-2018, 11:51 AM	#9
weehe126 Brigadier General 1161 Rep 3,189 Posts Drives: 2017 340i Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: San Antonio iTrader: (2)	Post a pic of the new alignment sheet.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-22-2018, 12:34 PM	#11
FCobra94 Guest 0 Rep n/a Posts Drives:	They're idiots. Go to a new shop.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-22-2018, 04:38 PM	#15
FCobra94 Guest 0 Rep n/a Posts Drives:	cant read that
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-22-2018, 07:00 PM	#18
cjdzombie First Lieutenant 76 Rep 290 Posts Drives: 2011 E92 335i xDrive, M Sport Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Cincinnati iTrader: (0)	Here is a link to the pic. Sorry the app uploads crap quality images. https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZNyQCrgfUT68oyjk9 __________________ 2011 E92 335i xDrive M-Sport MHD 93 Stage 2+ \| xHP Stage 3 \| xDelete \| Catless Downpipe \| Phoenix Racing Intercooler \| ARM CP \| AFE Drop In Filter
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-22-2018, 10:04 PM	#19
FCobra94 Guest 0 Rep n/a Posts Drives:	Omg, you paid money for that alignment!? Come on Corey... Your "after" numbers look worse than most peeps "before" numbers.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-24-2018, 07:39 PM	#21
cjdzombie First Lieutenant 76 Rep 290 Posts Drives: 2011 E92 335i xDrive, M Sport Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Cincinnati iTrader: (0)	So had the car checked by another shop and not surprisingly they found the car's alignment was jacked up. I took the proof the the original shop and got a reluctant refund. Wil be getting it corrected tomorrow. __________________ 2011 E92 335i xDrive M-Sport MHD 93 Stage 2+ \| xHP Stage 3 \| xDelete \| Catless Downpipe \| Phoenix Racing Intercooler \| ARM CP \| AFE Drop In Filter
	Appreciate 1 Quote