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      02-16-2016, 02:42 PM   #1
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xDrive Toe out?

Since I've gotten my xDrive (328xi) E91, I've felt that it hasn't turned in as sharply as my old RWD/6MT/ZSP E90. Has anyone added a little toe out, either front or rear, to get it to be a little more lively in the turns?
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I have like 0.5 deg toe out. It feels good but the car follows the roots in the road a lot.
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I have my toe set to zero in front.

You don't want to toe out for a street car. As you accelerate, toe angles naturally go out.

So at rest, I have 0 toe but when I am accelerating, my toe angle goes out some.

I'm also running -2.4 camber in front on my xDrive as well.
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I have my toe set to zero in front.

You don't want to toe out for a street car. As you accelerate, toe angles naturally go out.

So at rest, I have 0 toe but when I am accelerating, my toe angle goes out some.

I'm also running -2.4 camber in front on my xDrive as well.
Toe angles naturally go out on a RWD car, but on a FWD/AWD, they toe in.

That's why I was considering adding some toe out to my xDrive.

How does the 0 toe drive on your car? How are you achieving -2.4 camber? Camber plates I'm guessing? Does it tramline on the freeway?
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Toe angles naturally go out on a RWD car, but on a FWD/AWD, they toe in.

That's why I was considering adding some toe out to my xDrive.

How does the 0 toe drive on your car? How are you achieving -2.4 camber? Camber plates I'm guessing? Does it tramline on the freeway?
Better turn in response but does not tramline

I'm using Dinan fixed plates. I'm lowered on H&R coilovers though so camber naturally goes negative when you lower
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Better turn in response but does not tramline

I'm using Dinan fixed plates. I'm lowered on H&R coilovers though so camber naturally goes negative when you lower
Nice. I might have to give the 0 toe thing a try next time to see how it works out.
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