[Sensible_]

Originally Posted by robnitro

So on the diesel dde, we can activate the rpm limit? From what I read here the us 35d dde is different in some ways but I'd like to try it.

With an M3 cluster installed. Theoretically yes.

[pheno]

So can someone explain how ID 0x1D0 and cluster data relate to each other? Is it so that you can set cluster data either to show mpg or oil temp?

[Sensible_]

Originally Posted by pheno

So can someone explain how ID 0x1D0 and cluster data relate to each other? Is it so that you can set cluster data either to show mpg or oil temp?

No, 0x1D0 is CAN ID. It's where oiltemp is broadcast. The cluster looks for this information and displays it in the oil temp gauge.

You can switch the oil temp gauge to KVA (instant MPG) with coding. In which case the gauge looks for the KVA reading over CAN.

[pheno]

Originally Posted by Sensible_

No, 0x1D0 is CAN ID. It's where oiltemp is broadcast. The cluster looks for this information and displays it in the oil temp gauge.

You can switch the oil temp gauge to KVA (instant MPG) with coding. In which case the gauge looks for the KVA reading over CAN.

Ah, got it. Thanks!

Should this work in N47 engine also ? I have E61 LCI 520D and I can confirm that 0x1D0 there is oil temp broadcasted. Id like to change MPG into Oil Temp. Unit is L/100km and from 0 to 20.

[pheno]

Here's data for E61 520d LCI (N47D20 engine)

apiJob("KOMB60","codierdaten_lesen","0x3105","")

Satz : 0
OBJECT = komb60
SAETZE = 1
JOBNAME = codierdaten_lesen
VARIANTE = KOMB60
JOBSTATUS =
UBATTCURRENT = -1
UBATTHISTORY = -1
IGNITIONCURRENT = -1
IGNITIONHISTORY = -1
Satz : 1
JOB_STATUS = OKAY
CODIERDATENBLOCK = 24 Bytes
0000 : 41 20 0D 00 00 36 00 67 00 98 00 CA 00 00 00 BC A ...6.g .?.Ê...¼
0010 : 01 78 03 35 05 F1 06 6E .x.5.ñ.n
_TEL_ANTWORT = 31 Bytes
0000 : 9B F1 60 62 31 05 41 20 0D 00 00 36 00 67 00 98 ?ñ`b1.A ...6.g.?
0010 : 00 CA 00 00 00 BC 01 78 03 35 05 F1 06 6E C8 .Ê...¼.x .5.ñ.nÈ

[pheno]

...and no there's no job to get oil temp so we didnt even try coding. My cluster had coding index 7. There was an coding option to choose between KVA and oil temp

[Sensible_]

Originally Posted by pheno

...and no there's no job to get oil temp so we didnt even try coding. My cluster had coding index 7. There was an coding option to choose between KVA and oil temp

You can try and see. There is a job for oil temp but not in the KOMBI prg.

[pheno]

Originally Posted by Sensible_

You can try and see. There is a job for oil temp but not in the KOMBI prg.

Yes, tried that job. There's status_oelniveau that returns oil temp as one of the results. Also tried 'oil temp parameter' with the messwerte job. But both showed always 0 degrees.

[Sensible_]

Originally Posted by pheno

Yes, tried that job. There's status_oelniveau that returns oil temp as one of the results. Also tried 'oil temp parameter' with the messwerte job. But both showed always 0 degrees.

Then for you KOMBI cannot display oil temp

Sorry.

[Germanbato17]

just did it on my 330i , with the PDF file on page 1. I'm glad I got ride of the useless mpg setting.

[Notorious99]

Hi,

is it the same way to change the scale of the speedometer?

0-260km/h => 0-330km/h

[dpopov]

Hey guys,

have someone figured out how to activate the oil temperature in the place of MPG gauge on the N57 engine?

[psy460]

Hi, i'm trying to enable it on my M47Tu2D20, but unfortunally i got 0xFF on byte 2 of 0x1d0 ID.

So i will try to setting up the frame manager of DDE to make it send the oil temperature (OTSCD) from water temp sensor.

I will repport you if i get some news

[Dtype]

Originally Posted by psy460

Hi, i'm trying to enable it on my M47Tu2D20, but unfortunally i got 0xFF on byte 2 of 0x1d0 ID.

So i will try to setting up the frame manager of DDE to make it send the oil temperature (OTSCD) from water temp sensor.

I will repport you if i get some news

I'm on the same boat. I thought about a can blocker to resend message as I want. But your option seems best than mine. Can you Share any news?

One note, on inpa you can read oil and water temp separately. It's on other message Id.

[psy460]

yes, there is job to read oil temps but like you said, it's a direct request to DDE.
the problem of your solution is that DDE will still send his 0x1d0 paquet, so... ?

[psy460]

just found those ID inside damos, need to check my software now :

FrmMng_swtENGINE1_C
"Schalter zur Abschaltung der Berechnung von ENGINE1"
VALUE
0xD3B82
Kw_Wu8
1.000
OneToOne
0.00
1.000


FrmMng_swtEngRpmTempSel_C
"switch to select the coolant temperature or the engine oil temperature"
VALUE
0xD3B84
Kw_Wu8
1.000
OneToOne
0.00
1.000

FrmMng_tClnt
"Kühlmitteltemperatur"
SWORD
Temp_Cels
1
100
-50.140
899.860

FrmMng_tOil
"Öltemperatur"
SWORD
Temp_Cels
1
100
-50.140
899.860

FrmMng_tEngRpm_mp
"temperature adjusted to a resolution of approx. 1 deg C for engine rpm calculation"
SWORD
Temp_Cels
1
100
-50.140
899.860

Fid_FrmMngEngRpmTemp_mp
"Messpunkt für Funktions Identifier Fid_FrmMngEngRpmTemp"
UBYTE
OneToOne
1
100
0.00
255.0




and nothing to deal with this topic but :

FrmMng_swtTORQUE_GEARBX_C
"switch to disable handling of message"
to do not take care about transmission torque restriction

[Sensible_]

Originally Posted by psy460

just found those ID inside damos, need to check my software now :

FrmMng_swtENGINE1_C
"Schalter zur Abschaltung der Berechnung von ENGINE1"
VALUE
0xD3B82
Kw_Wu8
1.000
OneToOne
0.00
1.000


FrmMng_swtEngRpmTempSel_C
"switch to select the coolant temperature or the engine oil temperature"
VALUE
0xD3B84
Kw_Wu8
1.000
OneToOne
0.00
1.000

FrmMng_tClnt
"Kühlmitteltemperatur"
SWORD
Temp_Cels
1
100
-50.140
899.860

FrmMng_tOil
"Öltemperatur"
SWORD
Temp_Cels
1
100
-50.140
899.860

FrmMng_tEngRpm_mp
"temperature adjusted to a resolution of approx. 1 deg C for engine rpm calculation"
SWORD
Temp_Cels
1
100
-50.140
899.860

Fid_FrmMngEngRpmTemp_mp
"Messpunkt für Funktions Identifier Fid_FrmMngEngRpmTemp"
UBYTE
OneToOne
1
100
0.00
255.0




and nothing to deal with this topic but :

FrmMng_swtTORQUE_GEARBX_C
"switch to disable handling of message"
to do not take care about transmission torque restriction

This is great info. Are you planning to use winols?

[psy460]

yes of course. I'm tuner

At the moment, i just tried to send byte 2 with 0x90 value each 20ms, it's work fine
I did script to copy byte 1 on byte 2, i will test it this evening, when i will go back home !

[Sensible_]

Originally Posted by psy460

yes of course. I'm tuner

At the moment, i just tried to send byte 2 with 0x90 value each 20ms, it's work fine
I did script to copy byte 1 on byte 2, i will test it this evening, when i will go back home !

Nice work

Once this is done I'd like to discuss activating shiftlights on M3 KOMBI

[psy460]

hehe no problem

sending message at the same time than the DDE work only if we are perfectly sync with it. At 20ms sometime needle move back because of the 0xFF from DDE.

then i have to figure out how to enable temperature on byte 2 ...

that is bad news, because else we could use this needle to show what ever we want, like boost, or rail pressure, or IAT ...

[ruhl88]

@psy460

If you can show water temp on odometer on N47 motor let me know please

[psy460]

the idea from Dtype work well with an arduino and canbus shield, if it is dedicated to this functionnality ( i'm using one but it's used to many thing)

You have to send data every ~25ms to flood original DDE paquets.

i'm actually working on FrmMng, to configure DDE to send the right data (if it's not hard coded inside DDE SW)

I found a 330D 231hp manual gearbox SW with very similar frame manager than mine, i listed differencies, and i will try it on my car soon, i will report you result.