1/4 mile: 13.1

tjnptel1 · 06-20-2009, 01:26 PM

only thing in was JB2.

i couldn't break into the 12s

what could i have done to improve my time?

Location: Richmond Dragway
Track elevation: 75 feet
Temp: 89 degrees.

Callsign_Jester · 06-20-2009, 01:31 PM

Step or 6MT? Tires?

Either way that is a pretty sweet time for an E90 on just JB2.

tjnptel1 · 06-20-2009, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Callsign_Jester

Step or 6MT? Tires?

Either way that is a pretty sweet time for an E90 on just JB2.

step.

lkn · 06-20-2009, 02:10 PM

How did you launch in the step?

Arustik1 · 06-20-2009, 02:28 PM

Thats a good time you should be happy. Your 60' was really good if you're on street tires.

Maybe go when its cooler outside, you might be able to get into the 12s

mbj898 · 06-20-2009, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Arustik1

Maybe go when its cooler outside, you might be able to get into the 12s

+1

89 is pretty damn warm

try at night

chrisE92 · 06-20-2009, 04:06 PM

+1 on the tires and temp

roozie2001 · 06-20-2009, 06:31 PM

upgrade to a JB3 and put in some race gas. your in the 12s.

oneintheory · 06-20-2009, 06:33 PM

RDs track prep isn't that great...

My friend went out there with a GTO and couldn't break 14. That tells you something.

Callsign_Jester · 06-20-2009, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by oneintheory

RDs track prep isn't that great...

My friend went out there with a GTO and couldn't break 14. That tells you something.

Yeah, about his driving. Sorry, no offence intended but good lord...

princefemi · 06-20-2009, 10:27 PM

Please correct me if wrong, but 13.1 @105 mph seems to me like numbers achievable in a stock car. Many magazines report similar numbers in their comparison tests. I am not to trying to diminish or belittle your times or anything. I just thought a tuned car would easily surpass those numbers. Am I wrong to think so?

oneintheory · 06-21-2009, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Callsign_Jester

Yeah, about his driving. Sorry, no offence intended but good lord...

Yes, certainly that, but I firmly believe that he could have been in the 13s with a little better prep. He also suffered from massive amounts of wheelhop.

Callsign_Jester · 06-21-2009, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by oneintheory

Yes, certainly that, but I firmly believe that he could have been in the 13s with a little better prep. He also suffered from massive amounts of wheelhop.

Yeah, I can understand that. I have always done my 1/4 mile runs at Capital Raceway and they usually do a pretty good job, but some nights are better than others and it can affect your 60' pretty good/bad. Even with a crappy track he shouldn't be running too far outside of 14's though. Those cars have SO much top end it isn't even funny.(especially the LS2's) Sounds like he just needs to work on launching and he will be okay.

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Originally Posted by princefemi

Please correct me if wrong, but 13.1 @105 mph seems to me like numbers achievable in a stock car. Many magazines report similar numbers in their comparison tests. I am not to trying to diminish or belittle your times or anything. I just thought a tuned car would easily surpass those numbers. Am I wrong to think so?

If I remember correctly I think most stock evaluations have the numbers at somewhere in the 13.6 @ 104 mph range. The OP has a sub 2.0 60' which is pretty good on stock tires and with the tune he is running he is gaining a lot of the mid range (not so much in the top end). Likewise you throw a good free flowing exhaust [read: turbo back] on there and you should see a substantial increase in your trap speed.

OP- I think you have a few options to take into the 12's. Aside from race gas option, just pick 2 and I think you should have little problem making a sub 12 second pass.

-JB3+ Race gas
-JB3
-Tires
-Turbo back exhaust
-FMIC

tjnptel1 · 06-21-2009, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Callsign_Jester

Yeah, I can understand that. I have always done my 1/4 mile runs at Capital Raceway and they usually do a pretty good job, but some nights are better than others and it can affect your 60' pretty good/bad. Even with a crappy track he shouldn't be running too far outside of 14's though. Those cars have SO much top end it isn't even funny.(especially the LS2's) Sounds like he just needs to work on launching and he will be okay.

If I remember correctly I think most stock evaluations have the numbers at somewhere in the 13.6 @ 104 mph range. The OP has a sub 2.0 60' which is pretty good on stock tires and with the tune he is running he is gaining a lot of the mid range (not so much in the top end). Likewise you throw a good free flowing exhaust [read: turbo back] on there and you should see a substantial increase in your trap speed.

OP- I think you have a few options to take into the 12's. Aside from race gas option, just pick 2 and I think you should have little problem making a sub 12 second pass.

-JB3+ Race gas
-JB3
-Tires
-Turbo back exhaust
-FMIC

Thank you sir, you must be a pro at this. I will make some changes next time I hit the track and post a new 1/4 mile.

tjnptel1 · 06-21-2009, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by lkn

How did you launch in the step?

brake torqued it to 1500 rpms and then just mashed the trottle. downshifted to M1, and then I let the transmission do the shifting.

Callsign_Jester · 06-21-2009, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tjnptel1

Thank you sir, you must be a pro at this. I will make some changes next time I hit the track and post a new 1/4 mile.

Thanks! I'm hardly a pro but I learned a lot when I put my 91' Volkswagen Golf into the mid 12's (the car in my signature).

ellipsis212 · 06-22-2009, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by tjnptel1

only thing in was JB2.

i couldn't break into the 12s

what could i have done to improve my time?

Location: Richmond Dragway
Track elevation: 75 feet
Temp: 89 degrees.

we take it slow in Richmond man, don't feel bad

(my hometown)

The HACK · 06-22-2009, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tjnptel1

brake torqued it to 1500 rpms and then just mashed the trottle. downshifted to M1, and then I let the transmission do the shifting.

1,500 RPM? You might as well NOT brake torque and would likely have gotten similar results.

Brake torque that bad boy to 3,500 RPM! Drop the rear tire pressure down to 20psi! Bump the front up to 42psi! Guarantee you will be in the high 12s with that, even in 90 degrees weather.

Callsign_Jester · 06-22-2009, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The HACK

1,500 RPM? You might as well NOT brake torque and would likely have gotten similar results.

Brake torque that bad boy to 3,500 RPM! Drop the rear tire pressure down to 20psi! Bump the front up to 42psi! Guarantee you will be in the high 12s with that, even in 90 degrees weather.

^ he has a valid point. You might pull off a 1.7X 60' time if you're willing to try that out.

07-335XI · 06-22-2009, 02:21 PM

He wouldn't be able to brake torque up to 3500 RPMS with the step.

Arustik1 · 06-22-2009, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Callsign_Jester

^ he has a valid point. You might pull off a 1.7X 60' time if you're willing to try that out.

1.7 is nearly impossible with RWD, add the fact that he isnt running DRs...theres noway.

The HACK · 06-22-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 07-335XI

He wouldn't be able to brake torque up to 3500 RPMS with the step.

Why not? I'm not personally familiar with the automatic...Is there something specific that prevents the Steptronic from brake torquing to a higher RPM?

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