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12-16-2009, 12:31 AM | #2 |
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Castrol Synthetic 0w-30 European Formula
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12-16-2009, 12:32 AM | #3 |
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Your going to here alot of crap about !!only use bmw's suggested oil" witch i think is a certain type of synthetic oil but their are a handfull of people that use performance oils like Q or royal purple.It really doesnt matter when it comes down to it but i would suggest royal puple 5w 30
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12-16-2009, 09:08 AM | #5 |
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Royal Purple (been using this since car purchase although not LL01 approved) LL01 is BMW's "stamp of approval" & without it they say the oil is substandard. They also say 15K mile oil changes are fine .......... you be the judge. My car has consistently run smoother & engine oil temps stay 15-20 degrees cooler with the use of the 0W40 RP. Last edited by ToadHollow; 02-20-2010 at 02:58 PM.. |
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12-16-2009, 09:58 AM | #8 |
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I use Lubro Moly on my 330i, you can get it from BavAuto (they recently talked to Lubro Moly and lowered the pricing, it's a little higher than the BMW OEM oil now). They also sell a "Engine Renewal Kit" which is a package of a couple other products (Engine Flush, Motor Protect, and a year's supply of Ventil Sauber and Jectron).
I use the kit on my 330i (which I bought used at 70k miles) and switched from the BMW OEM oil to Lubro Moly and my engine has been running *much* smoother ever since. BavAuto also recently wrote an article on Lubro Moly in the Fall 2009 edition of their newsletter. https://www.bavauto.com/newsletter/2...newsletter.pdf |
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12-17-2009, 11:17 PM | #11 | |
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Mobil 1 0W-40 is one of the better Mobil 1 oils but it barely meets VW/Audi specs (the only Mobil 1 oil that does) with a HTHS rating of 3.7 when the same Redline oil has a HTHS of 4.0 but even better is Redline 5w-40 with a HTHS of 4.6 Even the same weight of Amsoils oils are just slightly behind Redlines but well ahead of Mobil 1. Most manufacturers post their specs on their websites but many of the U.S. manufacturers don't list the HTHS as it is a European (stricter) test standard. However, Mobil 1 0W-40 is used by Porsche and Honda in their race engines (typically changed after every race or two) for what that's worth. Last edited by AlanAZ; 12-18-2009 at 06:56 AM.. |
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12-18-2009, 01:48 AM | #12 | |
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Will BMW do an oil analysis on lease returns? My car does not have an oil cooler and I would rather use this RP oil if it runs cooler. |
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12-18-2009, 07:56 AM | #13 |
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12-18-2009, 08:01 AM | #14 |
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The only time they'll do an analysis is if there is a catastrophic failure of the engine or component therein.
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12-18-2009, 08:17 AM | #15 | |
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at what milegae do you change your oil using redline and how much cooler are your oil temps |
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12-18-2009, 10:28 AM | #16 |
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I have an NA car, so I don't know what my oil temps are, but I live in Phoenix and must cope with the extreme heat here. I'm still running Mobil 1 0w40 as my car was under warranty at the last change, and I wanted a certified oil, but now that's not under warranty, I'll run redline 5W40 (I already have RL gearoil in the diff), and will change every 7,500 miles.
The M1 0w40 improved the idle significantly (now much smoother) in outside temps of over 100F, so it can cope with the heat better than the factory oil. I expect the RL to be even better from that perspective. Last edited by AlanAZ; 04-27-2012 at 02:59 AM.. |
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12-22-2009, 11:18 AM | #20 |
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I've been researching Elf oil, and according to the Elf websites, Elf Excellellium LDX 0W-30 and XLL 5W-40 are both BMW LL01 approved. The 10W-50 is not approved and too thick to consider, as it may compromise cooling of the pistons. If you look at the viscosity ranges of BMW LL-01 approved oils, the Kv100 runs from a low of 11.3 to a high of 14.1. The Kv40 viscosity runs from a low of 63.6 to a high of 93.
I've found a couple spec sheets on the 5W-40 (including what appears to be the official ELF spec), but none have the HTHS rating. The only way to accurately compare the oils includes this rating. If someone point me to this, can they please post. |
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12-23-2009, 11:10 AM | #21 | |
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http://www.worldimpex.com/assets/partdocuments/5832.pdf As for Total Quartz Racing 10W 50, I plan on using that oil during the summer when I race at the track. It is not BMW LL01/04 approved, but it meets BMW API SM/CF. http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=234414 I know the viscosity is off, but at 240 deg F, the viscosity should be the same as any 5W 30 at normal temp. Its what suites your AZ climate: http://www.total-lubricants.ca/uploa...W-50%20PIB.pdf This is another decent oil for you to use: Total Quartz Energy 9000 5W 40, which used to be ELF excellium NF 5W 40 http://www.finalube.com/Product_Data...y_5w40_pdf.pdf ELF to Total Guide: http://www.performanceoilstore.com/i...ce%20Chart.pdf Last edited by Turkeybaster115; 12-23-2009 at 01:50 PM.. Reason: additions |
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12-23-2009, 03:27 PM | #22 | |
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SO this oil, which is made in the US, is described as "FULL" synthetic (by a US legal loop hole), and therefore is mineral oil based, and would be called "Synthetic Technology" in europe. While this oil is made in Germany, and has a synthetic base stock, and is using the term "FULLY" synthetic! So using this logic, we can better analyze TOTAL's labeling: http://www.performanceoilstore.com/i...ce%20Chart.pdf Only Total Quartz 0W 30 and the two Quartz 7000 products are synthetic based oils. The rest are mineral based oils. So, sorry AlanAZ, please use the Total Quartz 7000 10W 40/15W 50, for hot weather Last edited by Turkeybaster115; 12-23-2009 at 03:38 PM.. Reason: Additions |
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