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      09-20-2015, 02:07 PM   #45
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200 is NOT the price of vinyl. Especially for certain finishes. I get it straight from a distributor also no middle man. You might luck out on the color you want on clearance vinyl. But the colors are limited and it's probably old vinyl (vinyl has a shelf life)


Include in a clean lit garage/real estate, primer/seal, claybar/prepping, and removing and uninstalling door handles/side skirts/bumpers/badging/lights (and paying to replace all the plastic clips that you break).

Salary of a certified vinyl specialist ranges from 50-108k depending on what they're doing for work. Unforunately most are trained to do half assed jobs bc they wrap graphic vinyl. They don't need to come out perfect because it's for a business ad vehicle that may change wraps annually or the graphics that are screens on the wrap hide imperfections. Look closely at the company vans next time, you'll see shit you don't want on your car. On a clean wrap for a car enthusiast it needs to be 99.9% perfect. It's one of the reasons most "company wrap" businesses either reject car enthusiast wraps or charge nearly triple.

It isn't suppose to be a cheaper solution to paint. It's actually a pita to wrap something that has messed up paint. It's another option for people that have nicer cars that need to keep the original paint for resale purposes in the future. Dip on the other hand...
Wow I always thought the wrap was only like 200-300. I asked the guy who does our inverters and that is what he said. Perhaps it isn't the same quality? Makes sense for a higher quality wrap in a desirable color to be more expensive.

I know a guy who the company I work for uses pretty well. He does vehicle wraps like you are describing but also wraps ferraris etc. I'll probably have him do it if/when the time comes.

What do you think about dip?
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      09-20-2015, 08:42 PM   #46
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For anyone that wants this done. Contact info is here! =)
https://www.facebook.com/affordablevinyl?ref=hl
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      09-21-2015, 05:51 AM   #47
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Wow I always thought the wrap was only like 200-300. I asked the guy who does our inverters and that is what he said. Perhaps it isn't the same quality? Makes sense for a higher quality wrap in a desirable color to be more expensive.

I know a guy who the company I work for uses pretty well. He does vehicle wraps like you are describing but also wraps ferraris etc. I'll probably have him do it if/when the time comes.

What do you think about dip?
Dip is much quicker and cheaper. There is actually a clear coat you can put on to refine the finish so when you run your hand along it it will feel super smooth, I just learned about this recently while I was talking to Max at Northeast Autobahn. However with dip the color options become limited to what it available by mixing different colors and pearls.

I like vinyl more cause of how smooth it is and how easy it is to wash.
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Quality vinyl is ~$5 -700 for enough to do a regular car which is 5 ft. x 50 ft or 60 ft. That's for most major brands like 3M, Avery, Hexis, etc. Even chinese vinyl can be $3-400 once you've factored in freight and it's more for higher end colors. I once paid $550 for a roll of matte metallic chrome from China. Was going to change colors and never got around to it. The only vinyl that's $200 is maybe matte white or black from China, at least those are the only colors I've seen at that price.

FWIW, no one will do the work for $20 an hour unless you're great friends with them. At least no one with the skill set to do the job correctly will do it for $20 an hour. I've seen $1K wrapping jobs, it's not good. Or even on the forums, there was that guy with the E93 who got his black car wrapped white and then he posted pics of the atrocious work. It looked like a 3 year old did it and I think he paid $1600? The guy's excuse was what do you expect for the price?

Dip is cheaper and easier to apply, but it's also one of those things that looks way better in pictures on the internet than it does in real life. With a proper vinyl wrap, it's hard to tell it's not paint. With dip, you can pretty much always tell it's dipped even when it's done professionally. Weird finish and texture that give it away and lots of times the color isn't even.
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Quality vinyl is ~$5 -700 for enough to do a regular car which is 5 ft. x 50 ft or 60 ft. That's for most major brands like 3M, Avery, Hexis, etc. Even chinese vinyl can be $3-400 once you've factored in freight and it's more for higher end colors. I once paid $550 for a roll of matte metallic chrome from China. Was going to change colors and never got around to it. The only vinyl that's $200 is maybe matte white or black from China, at least those are the only colors I've seen at that price.

FWIW, no one will do the work for $20 an hour unless you're great friends with them. At least no one with the skill set to do the job correctly will do it for $20 an hour. I've seen $1K wrapping jobs, it's not good. Or even on the forums, there was that guy with the E93 who got his black car wrapped white and then he posted pics of the atrocious work. It looked like a 3 year old did it and I think he paid $1600? The guy's excuse was what do you expect for the price?

Dip is cheaper and easier to apply, but it's also one of those things that looks way better in pictures on the internet than it does in real life. With a proper vinyl wrap, it's hard to tell it's not paint. With dip, you can pretty much always tell it's dipped even when it's done professionally. Weird finish and texture that give it away and lots of times the color isn't even.
How does my car look =)
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Dip is much quicker and cheaper. There is actually a clear coat you can put on to refine the finish so when you run your hand along it it will feel super smooth, I just learned about this recently while I was talking to Max at Northeast Autobahn. However with dip the color options become limited to what it available by mixing different colors and pearls.

I like vinyl more cause of how smooth it is and how easy it is to wash.
do you have a silver 335?
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Wow I always thought the wrap was only like 200-300. I asked the guy who does our inverters and that is what he said. Perhaps it isn't the same quality? Makes sense for a higher quality wrap in a desirable color to be more expensive.

I know a guy who the company I work for uses pretty well. He does vehicle wraps like you are describing but also wraps ferraris etc. I'll probably have him do it if/when the time comes.

What do you think about dip?

The cheapest quality most basic color wrap is around 500-600.

There are some off brands that I've tried that are a little less but I've noticed they burn ALOT quicker when heated up making it tedious to work with. I think they're thinner and acrylic based(??)

It really depends on how much time/effort vs material costs. You can get cheap vinyl that will last a year if well taken care of.. and probably have to make up the difference in materials for higher labor costs.

The top vinyls out can almost be drape like installation. Meaning you attach and just squeegee the stuff on. They are starting to make application machines to wrap rivets etc also.

I'd do dip for a quick fix, knowing I would probably peel it off and change colors often. I wouldn't use it long term as a few taps on the bumper from street parking and it starts peeling. Not to say vinyl won't tear, but it's a bit more durable and I can always rewrap something versus having to try to get the dip to match if i'm only re-spraying on part. You'll also notice vinyl CAN look uneven, depending on how you stretch and heat. Overstretching something will make it a different shade.

not saying i'm a master at wrapping but have experience with playing with it. Mine still isn't perfect!
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For anyone that wants this done. Contact info is here! =)
https://www.facebook.com/affordablevinyl?ref=hl
i've seen that baby blue G35 sedan on Comm Ave alot.

That's the color I'm tempted to do my M!
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i've seen that baby blue G35 sedan on Comm Ave alot.

That's the color I'm tempted to do my M!
Matt just wrap it hot pink
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Matt just wrap it hot pink
This guy gives the best advice. I vote for hot pink as well.
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For anyone that wants this done. Contact info is here! =)
https://www.facebook.com/affordablevinyl?ref=hl
i've seen that baby blue G35 sedan on Comm Ave alot.

That's the color I'm tempted to do my M!
Matt just wrap it hot pink
Already one in Boston. A chic drives it.


There's also a e93 M matte blood red with black tear drop headlights also.


I was thinking satin chrome purple. I dunno if I wanna look like Barney tho ?
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Already one in Boston. A chic drives it.
Seen it. If you want examples on where not to get your car wrapped...
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What was wrong with it??

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Seen it. If you want examples on where not to get your car wrapped...
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What was wrong with it??
Peeling, wrinkles, etc...
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I have seen it once, but didn't get a close up view of it =( Do you know where she got the wrap from?

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Peeling, wrinkles, etc...
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I have seen it once, but didn't get a close up view of it =( Do you know where she got the wrap from?
Nope. Don't know the owner. Just saw the car.
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I have seen it once, but didn't get a close up view of it =( Do you know where she got the wrap from?
Nope. Don't know the owner. Just saw the car.
Yeah it's actually really faded pink plastidip I parked near her at show and shine. [IMG][/IMG]
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I know what I want now xTiny!

Since the hijacker of my post already got one of my top choices (frozen red), I'll go with the BMW frozen Blue

No offense to you catted red car guy
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Lol let me know when you are ready and we can talk details and pricing

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I know what I want now xTiny!

Since the hijacker of my post already got one of my top choices (frozen red), I'll go with the BMW frozen Blue

No offense to you catted red car guy
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NEW PROJECT STARTING NEW WEEK!!! Stay tuned!!!! =)
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Yeah it's actually really faded pink plastidip I parked near her at show and shine. [IMG][/IMG]

it was previously dipped.
It's wrapped now. It's vivid chromed magenta if anyone is curious what color the vinyl was.
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Cool what car?
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