[Wlew]

does anybody know anything about these? I emailed the company and they said it should add about 1-2 hp per plug depending on the car?

how are these rated over stock? worth it? only 90 bucks for all 6.

http://www.pulstar.com/performance.htm

[TommyK]

it will do more than the Dinan TB would. in theory

[rault18]

get OEM ones and be safe....cheap upgrades usually mean expensive issues

[Gavin@MMW]

dont listen to the naysayers, go get them, ive been thinking about these too.

if you install them right - it shouldnt be a problem at all

[Gavin@MMW]

Originally Posted by TrackRat

And what exactly do you get for the money? Will installing them "properly" some how keep them from failing, being the wrong heat range, producing no difference in power?

well for 90$ thats not much money. Thats a full tank of gas and a pack of smokes. So really, even if its the same performance its no big deal. if they show gains, then its a big win.

and you saying they will blow up is just an assumption, as ive never heard of any issues with these plugs, only heard they actually gain power.

so there is no need to speculate on possible issues, if none have been reported yet.

[mike-y]

Originally Posted by Craven 328

and you saying they will blow up is just an assumption, as ive never heard of any issues with these plugs, only heard they actually gain power.

I heard that the "tornado" gives you like 25 hp.

[Gavin@MMW]

Originally Posted by mike-y

I heard that the "tornado" gives you like 25 hp.

lol exactly, but u never know until you try

[Alexander]

Yup stick with OEM.

[conceptbass03]

I also heard that if you install a boat bilge blower inline with the air intake that you can get a 25+ HP gain too! Look for them on ebay!

[Alexander]

Originally Posted by TrackRat

The point is some folks like me, car companies, professional race teams, engineers, etc. have actually dyno and track tested these gimmicks and they do not work any more than the whirling tornado in your intake system produces more HP. The reason companies sell this stuff is because technically uninformed consumer do not know any better. You can buy whatever you want but do you honestly believe these sparkplugs produce more power? If so why isn't every race car driver in the world using them for $15 each?

Do you know how many hundreds of millions of dollars in profits STP generated for years by making unbsubstantiated and deceptive performance claims for their product before the FTC sued them and made them change their ad claims? Buy what makes you happy but an informed consumer doesn't get duped or cause damage to their engine by using improper or inferior products. If you actually do a search you will see that engine damage has been reported for these products. I wasn't speculating I was reporting what other folks who tried these reported.

I'd like to see the independent dyno tests before and after conducted to SAE dyno test standards by a car maker showing these sparkplugs produce more power. Have any dyno test data from a major car maker handy?

What he said. Nicely put though.

[rault18]

Originally Posted by TrackRat

The point is some folks like me, car companies, professional race teams, engineers, etc. have actually dyno and track tested these gimmicks and they do not work any more than the whirling tornado in your intake system produces more HP. The reason companies sell this stuff is because technically uninformed consumer do not know any better. You can buy whatever you want but do you honestly believe these sparkplugs produce more power? If so why isn't every race car driver in the world using them for $15 each?

Do you know how many hundreds of millions of dollars in profits STP generated for years by making unbsubstantiated and deceptive performance claims for their product before the FTC sued them and made them change their ad claims? Buy what makes you happy but an informed consumer doesn't get duped or cause damage to their engine by using improper or inferior products. If you actually do a search you will see that engine damage has been reported for these products. I wasn't speculating I was reporting what other folks who tried these reported.

I'd like to see the independent dyno tests before and after conducted to SAE dyno test standards by a car maker showing these sparkplugs produce more power. Have any dyno test data from a major car maker handy?

/thread..well put sir!

i love when people talk and encourage others to try something out that they wont put in their own ."next plugs i do it", "next oil change ill use it", etc...

[Martin46]

OE sparks are iridium on N52 = high quality = increase 2HP is too high!!

[Gavin@MMW]

So you have tested these yourself and know its a gimmick? Or are you still assuming from past experience with the intake tornado?

Originally Posted by TrackRat

The point is some folks like me, car companies, professional race teams, engineers, etc. have actually dyno and track tested these gimmicks and they do not work any more than the whirling tornado in your intake system produces more HP. The reason companies sell this stuff is because technically uninformed consumer do not know any better. You can buy whatever you want but do you honestly believe these sparkplugs produce more power? If so why isn't every race car driver in the world using them for $15 each?

Do you know how many hundreds of millions of dollars in profits STP generated for years by making unbsubstantiated and deceptive performance claims for their product before the FTC sued them and made them change their ad claims? Buy what makes you happy but an informed consumer doesn't get duped or cause damage to their engine by using improper or inferior products. If you actually do a search you will see that engine damage has been reported for these products. I wasn't speculating I was reporting what other folks who tried these reported.

I'd like to see the independent dyno tests before and after conducted to SAE dyno test standards by a car maker showing these sparkplugs produce more power. Have any dyno test data from a major car maker handy?

[boogiee90]

Originally Posted by conceptbass03

I also heard that if you install a boat bilge blower inline with the air intake that you can get a 25+ HP gain too! Look for them on ebay!

if you're installing those sparkplugs...pair em' up with these for optimum HP gain. (electric turbocharger) it's only $90 too!!!!!

[NaTuReB0Y]

Originally Posted by mike-y

I heard that the "tornado" gives you like 25 hp.

i had it on my '98 eclipse....+18HP

[Gavin@MMW]

Originally Posted by TrackRat

The dyno don't lie but advertiser do. Ask the FTC.

I havent seen a Dyno of these on our cars, so really 90$ for a maybe - doesnt seem like a huge loss if it doesnt work for more power - if anything you still have new spark plugs in your car - and either way thats going to cost you 90$ if you get NGK, Bosch, whatever.

[rault18]

Originally Posted by Craven 328

I havent seen a Dyno of these on our cars, so really 90$ for a maybe - doesnt seem like a huge loss if it doesnt work for more power - if anything you still have new spark plugs in your car - and either way thats going to cost you 90$ if you get NGK, Bosch, whatever.

ngk set= online vendors 65 bucks
and ur analogy about "u still have new plugs" doesnt make sense.. ..its like saying .."if anything u stil have new oil " and using non german, cheap non synthetic.

IF ur so adamant and swear by this im sure u personally tested, dynod and wrote a review right?

[Gavin@MMW]

Originally Posted by rault18

ngk set= online vendors 65 bucks
and ur analogy about "u still have new plugs" doesnt make sense.. ..its like saying .."if anything u stil have new oil " and using non german, cheap non synthetic.

IF ur so adamant and swear by this im sure u personally tested, dynod and wrote a review right?

I didnt say i have tried them, if you read it says right there^ "I havent seen a dyno for these"

and my analogy was just fine, you took it wrong which i cant control.

I dont see why everyone just jumps on the band wagon when NO ONE has actually tried these. I just sent them an Email, might get some with Wlew.

[Wlew]

I still want to do it. cant hurt. I have driven the hell out of my car, I could probably use some new plugs. plus, if Craven 328 and I can show dyno gains... maybe everyone else will put their money where their mouth is. if not... then the exact opposite.

plus, its something cool to say you have I guess? (joke, please dont hound me for saying that)

[Gavin@MMW]

Originally Posted by TrackRat

Do what makes you happy because it makes the marketeers wealthy. Maybe they'll throw in a gold chain with the purchase?

Bling bling lol

[D.B.S]

If Craven and Wlew are going to do dyno runs on these plugs, I suggest the following:

1. Dyno with your current plugs, (For Baseline)
2. Dyno with new OEM plugs (for comparison)
3. Dyno with Pulstar plugs (for comparison)

Or you could just do 2 and 3 and forget about 1, and use the new OEM plugs as your baseline dyno...

[Gavin@MMW]

Originally Posted by TrackRat

Yeah Gold wheels would be good too to go along with the gold chain...

lol gold wheels will never happen. Still waiting to hear back from them