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      01-18-2019, 05:05 PM   #1541
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I contacted him on the number mentioned a few posts above, got a reply within a few hours. But I think gonna make them myself. A lot more satisfying and 1% of the cost....
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      01-18-2019, 11:50 PM   #1542
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Is matter safety, cost and of course taste. But realistically, those wheels regardless of how much they cost and how much you like them they simply don't justify the butchering of the mounting tubs you did that also jeopardize the safety. I'm sure most real people with regular sense will tell you the same.
but sorry feuer , but you did not do the same thing I did?
in fact you've done so much publicity on moving the pincer outwards
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      01-19-2019, 01:54 AM   #1543
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Does Sebastian speak English?

Is there an email address we can reach him with?
speaks english and no, no e-mail..
why though? whatsapp is so much faster to communicate..
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but sorry feuer , but you did not do the same thing I did?
in fact you've done so much publicity on moving the pincer outwards
Oh yes, I have, but only 2mm to accommodate the larger bolts, definitely not to the extent you have! I would never ever do that. Absolutely not.
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      01-19-2019, 10:26 AM   #1545
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but sorry feuer , but you did not do the same thing I did?
in fact you've done so much publicity on moving the pincer outwards
[img]https://i.postimg.cc/5y2bx6gx/SGPhot...1-07-32-59.jpg[/img]
Oh yes, I have, but only 2mm to accommodate the larger bolts, definitely not to the extent you have! I would never ever do that. Absolutely not.
Here is a shot of mine, and done through offset/enlarged hole.
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      01-19-2019, 10:33 AM   #1546
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speaks english and no, no e-mail..
why though? whatsapp is so much faster to communicate..
A. I hate apps, and would prefer not to download another one.
B. Wouldn't the recipient also need to have Whatsapp installed?
C. I prefer e-mail for these types of things as it's easier to keep a record of it in case something goes foul.
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A. I hate apps, and would prefer not to download another one.
B. Wouldn't the recipient also need to have Whatsapp installed?
C. I prefer e-mail for these types of things as it's easier to keep a record of it in case something goes foul.
Well, sometimes you need to meet the other party "requirements" in order to get what you need, in this case get the app and be considerate of the time difference.
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Here is a shot of mine, and done through offset/enlarged hole.
Exactly! Beautiful! You have done the modification correctly! I think this is the case when the student is better then the teacher. Wonderful!
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      01-19-2019, 12:01 PM   #1549
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Well, sometimes you need to meet the other party "requirements" in order to get what you need, in this case get the app and be considerate of the time difference.
Yes, I've looked up the time difference between here and Germany already. I have international texting on my phone plan, so I'll try that first, when I'm ready.
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Here is a shot of mine, and done through offset/enlarged hole.
Does still require machining on the calipers?
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      01-19-2019, 06:16 PM   #1551
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Here is a shot of mine, and done through offset/enlarged hole.
Does still require machining on the calipers?
Yep, but easily achieved by hand tools, and attached pictures 1-2mm tops. Followed, Feuer's illustrations and worked great (thanks man) and as bushing is shaved some I say 1mm max out of caliper material.
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      01-20-2019, 12:27 AM   #1552
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I agree on thinking it was not done a good job but, the pnza is not maintained only with the enlarged hole but is maintained on all the support through the washer and the base of the caliper. in short, the clamp forces all the hole and not the milled part.
even if by hypothesis I cut the final part of the suport as in the picture below, the clamp would hold the same.

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I agree on thinking it was not done a good job but, the pnza is not maintained only with the enlarged hole but is maintained on all the support through the washer and the base of the caliper. in short, the clamp forces all the hole and not the milled part.
even if by hypothesis I cut the final part of the suport as in the picture below, the clamp would hold the same.

Caliper (you call it clamp) will work the same sure, however is just mater of time before it comes off the mounting tabs beacuse the clamping force alone of the 10mm bolts isn't nearly enough to combat the brake torque from the clamping force of the caliper, especially on a brake assembly mounted afront of the axle. You like to prove your hypothesis valid? Cut off the mounting tabs and go do repeatedly hard stops from high speed and report back. Hopefully not from jail, hospital or morgue. Do it in controlled environment so you won't hurt anyone.
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I agree on thinking it was not done a good job but, the pnza is not maintained only with the enlarged hole but is maintained on all the support through the washer and the base of the caliper. in short, the clamp forces all the hole and not the milled part.
even if by hypothesis I cut the final part of the suport as in the picture below, the clamp would hold the same.

[img]https://i.postimg.cc/wTnhVThb/SGPhot...0-07-23-50.jpg[/img]
This hole conversation scares me a bit... remind me again why you had to do this and not just the light modification the rest of us did? Because of a smaller wheel size with lesser offset?

Anyways, whatever you do just be safe please. And we all like to modify obviously but this would be far beyond my comfort and I would buy a new spindle or whatever the part is called and do over.
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I agree on thinking it was not done a good job but, the pnza is not maintained only with the enlarged hole but is maintained on all the support through the washer and the base of the caliper. in short, the clamp forces all the hole and not the milled part.
even if by hypothesis I cut the final part of the suport as in the picture below, the clamp would hold the same.

Uhhh yeah do not do this. Trust me. If you can't afford to do things right please do not do them wrong.

If you think this is acceptable take your picture and let me know what happens when you try and pass tech inspection at a track after showing them this hack.

This is dangerous.

If you need a BBK buy a BBK. There is a reason they cost 6k uninstalled.
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      01-20-2019, 11:36 PM   #1556
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ok, then I will make another change: I will disassemble the brake calipers and I will reinforce (with a weld or add some material) the caliper support holes.
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      01-21-2019, 11:24 AM   #1557
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^ I can't tell if you're trolling, or if all of your drilling and cutting tools should be taken away from you.
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Can't you just make an offset bracket/adapter so you can use the larger caliper and rotor? This way no ovaling or cutting required. This is very common on other platforms when you want to use none factory larger brakes.

Something like this:





Some easy money would be to make an adapter and then sell full kits.
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I just acquired a set of the yellow variety. Full set front and rear. Is anyone willing to share how much the eccentric inserts for the rear calipers are from the guy in Germany? Just trying to figure if it’s worth asking my local guy to make them or if I should just buy from the guy in Germany. Thanks in advance.
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I just acquired a set of the yellow variety. Full set front and rear. Is anyone willing to share how much the eccentric inserts for the rear calipers are from the guy in Germany? Just trying to figure if it’s worth asking my local guy to make them or if I should just buy from the guy in Germany. Thanks in advance.
ca. 100€ + shipping to wherever you are, not the cheapest solution but definetely better than butchering your car and calipers.

I posted the measurements a few pages ago in this topic, should be no problem whatsoever for anyone with a milling machine, faster and cheaper

p.s. maybe best to bring him your original bushing to minimize the possibility of him eFFing up the outer dimensions
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I just acquired a set of the yellow variety. Full set front and rear. Is anyone willing to share how much the eccentric inserts for the rear calipers are from the guy in Germany? Just trying to figure if it's worth asking my local guy to make them or if I should just buy from the guy in Germany. Thanks in advance.
Just remember that with US spec/rotors you still need to adjust for the out-of-plane offset by 1-2" approximately per my pictures (and you can see the lip upon cut, showing how minor it is), and your least work appear to be required with the Zimmerman E60 345mm rotors as discussed throughout. However, the bushing does address the in-plane offset, if you take that route.
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Thanks for the replies. I'll reach out to my local guy and see if he has time to make some eccentric bushings. I plan to run the E60 rear rotors as this will keep me from having to mill down the calipers. I will read through the thread again to help me decide what pads to go with and start piecing other things together like braided lines and possibly a MC from an M3.
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