[porsche959]

is there a DIY for this anywhere? searched around and there seem to be bits and pieces of instructions but not a full blown DIY.

thanks

[Sensible_]

Originally Posted by porsche959

is there a DIY for this anywhere? searched around and there seem to be bits and pieces of instructions but not a full blown DIY.

thanks

Probably not. As some people offer this as a paid service.

It's done in 2 phases:

1. Virgin a used cluster. Use whatever programmer you like. I prefer r270 for this job and use a test clip so there is no soldering. Once you read the eeprom you can blank the VIN with FF bytes and then erase the mileage. Once this is done the cluster is in factory state and ready for coding.

2. The cluster needs to be coded to your car. Use NCS Expert in expert mode and run the job SG_CODIEREN. This will code the cluster and write your VIN to it.

[mweisdorfer]

Originally Posted by Sensible_

Probably not. As some people offer this as a paid service.

It's done in 2 phases:

1. Virgin a used cluster. Use whatever programmer you like. I prefer r270 for this job and use a test clip so there is no soldering. Once you read the eeprom you can blank the VIN with FF bytes and then erase the mileage. Once this is done the cluster is in factory state and ready for coding.

2. The cluster needs to be coded to your car. Use NCS Expert in expert mode and run the job SG_CODIEREN. This will code the cluster and write your VIN to it.

You need to:

1) get a cluster that has less miles on it than your car

2) get the BMW R270 program v 1.20

3) get eeprom clips

4) have a soldering iron ready to go in case the clips don't make a connection; you'll have to take the chip off the board and put it on the board used in the r270.

5) virginize the cluster

6) install the cluster

7) use INPA to verify a connection, get the zcs value; write that down, you will need to enter it into Winkfp in order the write the vin & update it.

8) use Winkfp to write your vin and update it with the latest Datens, which is v65. Kombi is what you are coding.

9) use INPA to verify the vin has been written to the Kombi module.

10) use NCS Expert in expert mode to apply the command to SG_CODIEREN the Kombi. This will essentially reset the cluster to factory defaults.

https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1174832

[Sensible_]

Originally Posted by mweisdorfer

You need to:

1) get a cluster that has less miles on it than your car

2) get the BMW R270 program v 1.20

3) get eeprom clips

4) have a soldering iron ready to go in case the clips don't make a connection; you'll have to take the chip off the board and put it on the board used in the r270.

5) virginize the cluster

6) install the cluster

7) use INPA to verify a connection, get the zcs value; write that down, you will need to enter it into Winkfp in order the write the vin & update it.

8) use Winkfp to write your vin and update it with the latest Datens, which is v65. Kombi is what you are coding.

9) use INPA to verify the vin has been written to the Kombi module.

10) use NCS Expert in expert mode to apply the command to SG_CODIEREN the Kombi. This will essentially reset the cluster to factory defaults.

https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1174832

This is a good guide. But it's not necessary to use winkfp or INPA. The job SG_CODIEREN will write the vin to the cluster as well as code the cluster to default.

[LMB335IS]

Originally Posted by mweisdorfer

You need to:

1) get a cluster that has less miles on it than your car

2) get the BMW R270 program v 1.20

3) get eeprom clips

4) have a soldering iron ready to go in case the clips don't make a connection; you'll have to take the chip off the board and put it on the board used in the r270.

5) virginize the cluster

6) install the cluster

7) use INPA to verify a connection, get the zcs value; write that down, you will need to enter it into Winkfp in order the write the vin & update it.

8) use Winkfp to write your vin and update it with the latest Datens, which is v65. Kombi is what you are coding.

9) use INPA to verify the vin has been written to the Kombi module.

10) use NCS Expert in expert mode to apply the command to SG_CODIEREN the Kombi. This will essentially reset the cluster to factory defaults.

https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1174832

I was going to say, skip steps 7-9. You also don't need a cluster with less miles since you can zero them out while you have the eep in the programmer. You'll know the VIN was written successfully if the tamper dot goes away after default coding the KOMBI. If it doesn't, be prepared to go back in, WinKFP won't help you.

At the minimum you should have a desoldering station, flux, soldering wick, solder paste, work stand with magnification and light, R270 programmer and SOIC test clip, hex editor, and working BMW Standard Tools with a DCAN cable.

[Sensible_]

I'd also add that if you have a higher mileage cluster then before you install it in your car, use a 12v supply on pin9 and 18 and double check the cluster actually displays 0miles / km.

I always check the cluster just incase. You don't want to write your vin to the cluster and then watch as your 60k mile car turns into a 260k mike car in under a second

[porsche959]

Thanks all.

Is there a recommended eepom clip and wires? Will this work?

SOP8 SOIC8 Test Clip For EEPROM 93CXX/25CXX/24CXX In-circuit Programmer https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F132848494305

[porsche959]

Also - will I need to remove the gauge needles at any point and recalibrate?

[Levanime]

Originally Posted by porsche959

Also - will I need to remove the gauge needles at any point and recalibrate?

yes and yes

[mweisdorfer]

Originally Posted by Sensible_

I'd also add that if you have a higher mileage cluster then before you install it in your car, use a 12v supply on pin9 and 18 and double check the cluster actually displays 0miles / km.

I always check the cluster just incase. You don't want to write your vin to the cluster and then watch as your 60k mile car turns into a 260k mike car in under a second

Well, that's sort of why I said to get a cluster that has lower miles than your car. Better safe than sorry.

[Sensible_]

Originally Posted by mweisdorfer

Well, that's sort of why I said to get a cluster that has lower miles than your car. Better safe than sorry.

How do you check the cluster mileage though? I wouldn't trust a cluster off eBay where seller say it has x number of miles. You should always Power the cluster on a bench and check first.

[mweisdorfer]

Originally Posted by Sensible_

How do you check the cluster mileage though? I wouldn't trust a cluster off eBay where seller say it has x number of miles. You should always Power the cluster on a bench and check first.

Originally Posted by Sensible_

How do you check the cluster mileage though? I wouldn't trust a cluster off eBay where seller say it has x number of miles. You should always Power the cluster on a bench and check first.

Good point 👍

[porsche959]

Originally Posted by Sensible_

How do you check the cluster mileage though? I wouldn't trust a cluster off eBay where seller say it has x number of miles. You should always Power the cluster on a bench and check first.

thanks - would something like this work?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mean-Well-L...eQ9N:rk:1:pf:0

[porsche959]

really appreciate all the input from the community - im relatively DIY on mechanical things (oil, plugs, etc) but starting from scratch on the coding/electrical side.

[porsche959]

wanted to share this:

https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1405801

good thread for bmw tools software install. what i plan to use for NCS Expert

[porsche959]

so i got the m3 cluster on ebay

r270+ from ali express: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/OBD2...5c3b4c4dJNE5SI

BimmerGeeks! Pro-K+Dcan Cable: https://www.bimmergeeks.net/product-...eeks-pro-cable

BimmerGeeks! Standard Tools: https://www.bimmergeeks.net/downloads
https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1405801


Just need recommendations for "eeprom clips". will these work? do i need to buy 2?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/132848494305?ul_noapp=true

Are there any others you would recommend?

Also - any recommendations for a power source to light up the od? the ebay seller said there was 70k miles but just want to confirm.

Thanks,

[Sensible_]

Originally Posted by porsche959

so i got the m3 cluster on ebay

r270+ from ali express: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/OBD2...5c3b4c4dJNE5SI

BimmerGeeks! Pro-K+Dcan Cable: https://www.bimmergeeks.net/product-...eeks-pro-cable

BimmerGeeks! Standard Tools: https://www.bimmergeeks.net/downloads
https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1405801


Just need recommendations for "eeprom clips". will these work? do i need to buy 2?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/132848494305?ul_noapp=true

Are there any others you would recommend?

Also - any recommendations for a power source to light up the od? the ebay seller said there was 70k miles but just want to confirm.

Thanks,

There's a good chance that R270 might not work.

There are lots of articles online which suggest the red board doesn't work for the M35080 or the 080D0WQ. You need to repair the board.

http://blog.chinacardiags.com/r270-p...270-blue-wins/

Blue board:

https://m.ru.aliexpress.com/item/328...C1545167386045

Best to contact the seller and request a blue board.

If you are using the test clip method, you need a high quality clip. I use 3M and all is fine.

[LMB335IS]

Sensible_

What kind of amp rating does your 12v bench supply that you use for testing the KOMBI have?

[Sensible_]

Originally Posted by LMB335IS

Sensible_

What kind of amp rating does your 12v bench supply that you use for testing the KOMBI have?

3a

[porsche959]

So I got most of the parts in. Red chip board right now (waiting for blue) - is there something I am missing?

I’m not sure how to connect the programmer chip to the board with the eepom cable. Doesn’t seem to fit?

[Sensible_]

Connect the testclip to the U2 connector. You'll need to attach header pins to the holes. Either push fit or solder

[porsche959]

Originally Posted by Sensible_

Connect the testclip to the U2 connector. You'll need to attach header pins to the holes. Either push fit or solder

Thanks Sensible - The u2/testclip adapter that came with the clip doesnt fit on top of the board - would it work if i plugged it underneath the board? or would i have to get header pins in this case.