**STOCK TURBO WORLD RECORD 335i! 509HP/575TQ**

BQTuning · 02-21-2016, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by V8bait

Aaron has a 6MT btw.

Make it even better Ill pit it against my Z4 6MT So what would you like, VBOX, or 1/4 speed traps, or both ? Ill even drop the boost down to where he is at. Pick your choice or he can pick his choice. Writing long novels is talking too much, I don't like to talk, it's a waste of index finger.

We can talk about the details like adults later rather than these piss games. Right now lets see some results.

V8bait · 02-21-2016, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BuraQ

Make it even better Ill pit it again my Z4 6MT So what would you like VBOX or 1/4 speed traps or both ? Ill even drop the boost down to where he is at. Pick your choice or he can pick his choice. Writing long novels is talking too much, I don't like to talk, it's a waste of index finger.

We can talk about the details like adults later rather than these piss games. Right now lets see some results.

Lol you're the queen of talking. And why are you asking me? Idgaf lol. I've vboxed my own car plenty.

Redbmwm33 · 02-21-2016, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by V8bait

Ok I'm done playing the hater and feeding trolls. BuraQ it's kinda funny, to me this was just another record dyno. Your post was suspect though, which I'm used to as I look at all of your posts closer than anyone else in the community. Which you brought to yourself. It was suspect because you were already defensive and talking about emails where the owner gave consent, etc etc. What really got me was how you play the numbers like being tuned on the street makes them more impressive or something. Why? Numbers on a dyno are just that, numbers on a dyno. If you got them from street tuning or lucky guessing makes no difference unless you have some logs to prove whatever confusing point you're trying to sell people. I think it's that this tune is actually driven.... ok then, so what, MMP drove his dyno queen tune, does that make the numbers cooler too? Or less queeny?

I wasn't hating at all. Guy made a few clerical mistakes. I corrected them as others did on other forums. No biggie. But you wanna call me a hater I'll be one. Mostly because your points here are not backed up by anything but conjecture per the course. I've been enjoying every second of this watching you get pissed off because, I honestly don't care lol.

I don't care how people tune these cars. I don't care how PTF, Wedge, Triggz, Spxx, Terry, Shiv etc does things. If I see a log with a concern I voice it. And I do care that vendors market honestly, especially in tunes. Not this Advanced Yada Yada, Qlogic, whatever. It's flash tuning, there's no Q anything. There's Siemens logic unless you've added it, which you haven't. Saying you retain PID boost control when over the map limit is a lie. I don't care if you use a manual boost controller or tie the gates closed with chicken wire, just don't hide behind marketing gimmicks and at least acknowledge the downsides with the upsides to whatever approach you're using. You're exactly like shiv was, take example from your partner and embrace the fact you don't know everything and maybe you'll learn something new, it's obvious he's come a long way since he started. Crazy thought right? We all just learned something new last week, because of Dzenno, and you were the only group saying the issue didn't exist. Come on now, stop it. It's a community not BQ tuning vs the world.

Aaron has a 6MT btw.

What times have you hit in 1/4? What times have cars you tuned hit in 1/4? Just wondering.

BQTuning · 02-21-2016, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by V8bait

Lol you're the queen of talking. And why are you asking me? Idgaf lol. I've vboxed my own car plenty.

Then you must be the king of talking. I surely didn't spend 418 words and three paragraphs trying to explain myself.

Get with Aaron help him out, you two seem to be a good team, produce some results. Throw your car in also.

Julian2485 · 02-21-2016, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by V8bait

Ok I'm done playing the hater and feeding trolls. BuraQ it's kinda funny, to me this was just another record dyno. Your post was suspect though, which I'm used to as I look at all of your posts closer than anyone else in the community. Which you brought to yourself. It was suspect because you were already defensive and talking about emails where the owner gave consent, etc etc. What really got me was how you play the numbers like being tuned on the street makes them more impressive or something. Why? Numbers on a dyno are just that, numbers on a dyno. If you got them from street tuning or lucky guessing makes no difference unless you have some logs to prove whatever confusing point you're trying to sell people. I think it's that this tune is actually driven.... ok then, so what, MMP drove his dyno queen tune, does that make the numbers cooler too? Or less queeny?

I wasn't hating at all. Guy made a few clerical mistakes. I corrected them as others did on other forums. No biggie. But you wanna call me a hater I'll be one. Mostly because your points here are not backed up by anything but conjecture per the course. I've been enjoying every second of this watching you get pissed off because, I honestly don't care lol.

I don't care how people tune these cars. I don't care how PTF, Wedge, Triggz, Spxx, Terry, Shiv etc does things. If I see a log with a concern I voice it. And I do care that vendors market honestly, especially in tunes. Not this Advanced Yada Yada, Qlogic, whatever. It's flash tuning, there's no Q anything. There's Siemens logic unless you've added it, which you haven't. Saying you retain PID boost control when over the map limit is a lie. I don't care if you use a manual boost controller or tie the gates closed with chicken wire, just don't hide behind marketing gimmicks and at least acknowledge the downsides with the upsides to whatever approach you're using. You're exactly like shiv was, take example from your partner and embrace the fact you don't know everything and maybe you'll learn something new, it's obvious he's come a long way since he started. Crazy thought right? We all just learned something new last week, because of Dzenno, and you were the only group saying the issue didn't exist. Come on now, stop it. It's a community not BQ tuning vs the world.

Aaron has a 6MT btw.

What did dzenno discover ?

J. Dub · 02-21-2016, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BuraQ

Do you remember that in-box sound for AOL mail ?

And just like that, I have mail. Thank you.

BQTuning · 02-21-2016, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Julian2485

What did dzenno discover ?

Manipulation of the factory Map Conversion table from the looks of it.

Edit....

Julian2485 · 02-21-2016, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BuraQ

Quote:

Originally Posted by Julian2485

What did dzenno discover ?

Manipulation of the factory Map Conversion table.

What is that in English lol

BQTuning · 02-21-2016, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Julian2485

What is that in English lol

I forgot to add ".....from the looks of it....." in the preveious post, I am may be wrong and he did discover something that no one was aware of.

To scale boost properly and be able to maintain hitting boost target normally instead of actual boost riding abruptly below boost target.

Pretty much something I ran into that they did and I moved away from it.

Julian2485 · 02-21-2016, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BuraQ

Quote:

Originally Posted by Julian2485

What is that in English lol

I forgot to add ".....from the looks of it....." in the preveious post, I am may be wrong and he did discover something that no one was aware of.

To scale boost properly and be able to maintain hitting boost target normally instead of actual boost riding abruptly below boost target.

Pretty much something I ran into that they did and moved away from

Ok thanks. Can I assume you will be revisiting that table now and doing some new interesting things ?

V8bait · 02-21-2016, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BuraQ

I forgot to add ".....from the looks of it....." in the preveious post, I am may be wrong and he did discover something that no one was aware of.

To scale boost properly and be able to maintain hitting boost target normally instead of actual boost riding abruptly below boost target.

Pretty much something I ran into that they did and I moved away from it.

So basically, you have no idea. But you're trying to sound smart because you found it before it was cool, just decided not to use it. This is why I dislike you on a "professional" level. So much bs. Why not ask?

BQTuning · 02-21-2016, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by V8bait

So basically, you have no idea. But you're trying to sound smart because you found it before it was cool, just decided not to use it. This is why I dislike you on a "professional" level. So much bs. Why not ask?

vs

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuraQ

I forgot to add ".....from the looks of it....." in the preveious post, I am may be wrong and he did discover something that no one was aware of.

To scale boost properly and be able to maintain hitting boost target normally instead of actual boost riding abruptly below boost target.

Pretty much something I ran into that they did and I moved away from it.

More than one way to skin a cat is the saying right ? Perhaps you should pay attention more and type less.

BQTuning · 02-22-2016, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Julian2485

Ok thanks. Can I assume you will be revisiting that table now and doing some new interesting things ?

Perhaps there was a misunderstanding ? When I said I moved away , I meant I gave up the the scaling method that was being used which was causing issues, so I moved on to another scaling approach for certain DCT cars. The OP was an exception 6AT as it was something requested and his transmission was performing well.

Julian2485 · 02-22-2016, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BuraQ

Quote:

Originally Posted by Julian2485

Ok thanks. Can I assume you will be revisiting that table now and doing some new interesting things ?

Perhaps there was a misunderstanding ? When I said I moved away , I meant I gave up the the scaling method that was being used which was causing issues, so I moved on to another scaling approach for certain DCT cars. The OP was an exception 6AT as it was something requested and his transmission was performing well.

Ok got you

LMB335IS · 02-22-2016, 07:16 AM

LMAO! So the other thread all about nothing got deleted (like it should have) and this one has picked up right where the other left off.

J. Dub · 02-22-2016, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by stari335

What the hell is the point of this glory when shit like this falls apart quick? Hey OP will you post glory shots of your damage soon too? I know you won't. Most guys doing shit like this never do when it breaks. Just dumb but whatever floats your boat.

Are you being sarcastic? This isn't 2010... N54's are holding up fine when tuned correctly.

jtswole · 02-22-2016, 09:48 AM

Can he post a log of his current log?

BKBMW335I · 02-22-2016, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Dub

Are you being sarcastic? This isn't 2010... N54's are holding up fine when tuned correctly.

How about N55's, are they holding up when tuned correctly? I'm still a Noob, you guys run circles around with me with all your technical abilities/no how and jargon.

I love it though because I'm learning alot from all of you, keep going BuraQ and V8bait.

You guys sound like freaking Rocket Scientist to me. Thanks for sharing.

BoostNinja · 02-27-2016, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BuraQ

Did you tune that 335is ? Well according to the props list you are nowhere mentioned as being part of the team that contributed.

Maybe the only thing you contributed was you talked a lot ?

Perhaps you go by another name in the list ?

I'm talking about YOU, to show me some time slips or vbox numbers of your ideal tuning, and you produce nothing, but drag other people's work not of your own into this ?

He wasn't mentioned but his spreadsheets helped quite a bit. Same with the egr delete.

So what is the best timeslip from a car you've tuned?

BQTuning · 02-27-2016, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BoostNinja

He wasn't mentioned but his spreadsheets helped quite a bit. Same with the egr delete.

So what is the best timeslip from a car you've tuned?

He said he had no part in tuning your car

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Originally Posted by V8bait

...........I didn't tune him.................

So exploiting data is the same as tuning a car ? You acknowledged him but yet you neglected him of being among those who were important to your build shows his direct or indirect influence was insignificant

Seems like a bit of instigation from a party of those you surround yourself with to come online and target specific posts I made, and then to ask where one of my timeslips are, shows you haven't even taken the time to read the thread and just jumped to conclusions based on how the picture was painted to you.

Don't know why your jumping into this, there was no flame towards you in the least, I've even given congrats to your achievements.

So since you jumped in the mud, you want to compare this setup:

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Originally Posted by BoostNinja

Build Specs

2013 335is DCT
Jb4 G5 ISO with Connect kit
N20 Map sensor
MHD E85 high load back end flash with timing and fueling tweaks
AR 3" catless downpipes
MMP Inlets
Stage 2 Fuel-IT
VRSF 7" FMIC
TFT charge pipe and up pipe
Tial BOV
Delphi Coils with Indexed M4 Plugs
AR Design Line Lock kit.
Diffs Online custom built M3 Differential.
DEFIV Fabrication M3 Lockdown Diff Kit with Aluminum diff bushings.
Driveshaft Specialists of Texas custom length M3 driveshaft.
M3 DCT transmission output flange
M3 Axles
M3 Rear subframe, complete with m3 bushings
M3 rear control arms, guide arms, toe arms, camber arms and bushings.
M3 Shocks
M3 Competition Package Springs
M3 front and rear sway bars with all associated hardware
M3 front strut bar
M3 rear chassis stiffening bars.
M3 Brakes front and rear
M3 Brake booster and brake master cylinder
M3 brake lines and brake mounting brackets
M3 knuckles
M3 wheel bearings
M3 front thrust rods and bushings
M3 front control arm
M3 carbon fiber roof (-50 lbs)
Vorsteiner CSL Style carbon fiber trunk
Apex ARC-8 17x9 Front 17x9.5 Rear
Hoosier DOT Drag radial 2

38 pounds total lost from wheels over stock 313 19” rims and oversized 245/275 Super Sports

Rear seat, passenger seat, cargo mat, battery cover removed. for weight savings of about 110lbs

Vehicle with driver after record pass weighed 3575.

No nitrous, No Meth, No PI
E60 Fuel. 1 Gallon of 93 to 3 Gallon of E85

The car Dyno'd at 495/552 at the Eurocharged dyno day last weekend

Went to the track 3 times in the past two weeks.

1st trip I didn't have my light weight front wheels on and had my back seat in. 1300 DA

2nd time at the 1/8 mile to practice my launch, full weight, 450DA

3rd time. Passenger/back seat out, Light front wheels, -262DA

I usually don't pull seats out, but the 135i and 335i stock turbo record holders had theirs out so...

Thanks for everyone who help along the way.

Terry C

Compared to another 335is I tuned

2011 335is DCT
BQ Tune via COBB
Dinan FMIC
Dinan Axle Back Exhaust
Street Tires
cP-e Catted HighFlow downpipes
Stock mid catts
Stock Inlets
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Fullweight + half a tank of gas

Total weight 3608 (fullweight) + 260 = 3868 lbs

My weight 260

You weight on new record 3575 lbs
My weight on previous record 3868 lbs

Difference 293 lbs

Your max boost 24 PSI
My max boost 21 PSI

Your whp 495
My whp 426 (rated 20 whp less than a dynojet)

Your DA -262
My DA -7

If the shoe was on the other foot I am sure those among you would have brought this up

Lets move on to another 335is comparing it to your first time slips with something closer to the same DA and perhaps weight

You

24 PSI max ?
DA 1300
WHP 495
Best Trap Speed 122.50
Driver weight ?

vs

21 PSI max
DA 1676
WHP 450
Best Trap Speed 120.08
Normal FMO
Stock Inlets
Driver Weight 230
First time at track with his car

http://www.dragtimes.com/da-density-...ime=12:53%20PM

So it took a dream team support + a ton of hardware conversions ($$$$$$), inlets upgrades and other significant upgrades to be 2.42 mph faster in a 1/4 mile ?

BoostNinja · 02-27-2016, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuraQ

He said he had no part in tuning your car

So exploiting data is the same as tuning a car ? You acknowledged him but yet you neglected him of being among those who were important to your build shows his direct or indirect influence was insignificant

Seems like a bit of instigation from a party of those you surround yourself with to come online and target specific posts I made, and then to ask where one of my timeslips are, shows you haven't even taken the time to read the thread and just jumped to conclusions based on how the picture was painted to you.

Don't know why your jumping into this, there was no flame towards you in the least, I've even given congrats to your achievements.

So since you jumped in the mud, you want to compare this setup:

Compared to another 335is I tuned

2011 335is DCT
BQ Tune via COBB
Dinan FMIC
Dinan Axle Back Exhaust
Street Tires
cP-e Catted HighFlow downpipes
Stock mid catts
Stock Inlets
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
Fullweight + half a tank of gas

Total weight 3608 (fullweight) + 260 = 3868 lbs

My weight 260

You weight on new record 3575 lbs
My weight on previous record 3868 lbs

Difference 293 lbs

Your max boost 24 PSI
My max boost 21 PSI

Your whp 495
My whp 426 (rated 20 whp less than a dynojet)

Your DA -262
My DA -7

If the shoe was on the other foot I am sure those among you would have brought this up

Lets move on to another 335is comparing it to your first time slips with something closer to the same DA and perhaps weight

You

24 PSI max ?
DA 1300
WHP 495
Best Trap Speed 122.50
Driver weight ?

vs

21 PSI max
DA 1676
WHP 450
Best Trap Speed 120.08
Normal FMO
Stock Inlets
Driver Weight 230
First time at track with his car

http://www.dragtimes.com/da-density-...ime=12:53%20PM

So it took a dream team support + a ton of hardware conversions ($$$$$$), inlets upgrades and other significant upgrades to be 2.42 mph faster in a 1/4 mile ?

Damn thats the best bench racing I've ever seen, doesn't mean shit.

As to your theory that someone asked me to target your post. I was mentioned twice in this thread before I posted anything.

For the record. I do all my own work. The "dream team" collaboration is people I work with on a daily basis. You should try it sometime, you might learn something instead of pretending like you know it all.

Just curious, why do you say you still have a 335is when you totaled it?

BQTuning · 02-27-2016, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BoostNinja

Just curious, why do you say you still have a 335is when you totaled it?

Thank you, now I know...............

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