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      11-23-2018, 02:20 PM   #1
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MHD Stage 1 vs Bone Stock - What Will Wear & Tear Faster Now?

I DD my baby. I have 122k highway miles on her. I've got everything tuned up from a maintenance standpoint and would like to run MHD Stage 1.

Out of curiosity, which parts will get hit the hardest with an increased tune?

I don't beat the car really. The main areas of concern will be my injectors, HPFP, and oil pan gasket, (and turbos i guess).

Will the above wear any faster by going MHD Stage 1 or would I be at a similar wear level as just being stock?
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How do you know is a she? Rides like a bitch? Anyhow, ingnition coils and spark plugs, then injectors, turbos, fuel pumps, transmission, differential, brakes....
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How do you know is a she? Rides like a bitch? Anyhow, ingnition coils and spark plugs, then injectors, turbos, fuel pumps, transmission, differential, brakes....
I don't .. sometimes its a she sometimes a he.

I have plugs and ignition coils from FCP ... in terms of extra wear and tear from MHD stage 1 .. would it accelerate wear and tear that much?

I guess what would be good to know is how maxed out these parts are stock and how much wiggle room there is to where they are overextending themselves.
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How do you know is a she? Rides like a bitch? Anyhow, ingnition coils and spark plugs, then injectors, turbos, fuel pumps, transmission, differential, brakes....
I don't .. sometimes its a she sometimes a he.

I have plugs and ignition coils from FCP ... in terms of extra wear and tear from MHD stage 1 .. would it accelerate wear and tear that much?

I guess what would be good to know is how maxed out these parts are stock and how much wiggle room there is to where they are overextending themselves.
Stage 1 over stock isn't a big jump. Wear and tear should be anecdotal. At that mileage things can go wrong just because
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Well now that i think about it what was the recall on the e92s. Was it the HPFP or LPFP? Bc i had it warrantied about 1.5yrs ago so that is newer as well.
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Well now that i think about it what was the recall on the e92s. Was it the HPFP or LPFP? Bc i had it warrantied about 1.5yrs ago so that is newer as well.
It should have been the HPFP that was recalled.
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If you really think about how often you're actually driving above and beyond the stock performance levels in daily driving situations you'll come to the realization that it won't wear and tear any faster than untuned , unless you're freaking racing to and from work every day.
I DD'd a Stage 2+ tune for 6mos, but it's not like I was driving balls to the wall every day. Opened it up on rare occasion only on a couple weekends. Not like I could really gun it between traffic lights, you know?
And what feuer said.
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If you really think about how often you're actually driving above and beyond the stock performance levels in daily driving situations you'll come to the realization that it won't wear and tear any faster than untuned , unless you're freaking racing to and from work every day.
I DD'd a Stage 2+ tune for 6mos, but it's not like I was driving balls to the wall every day. Opened it up on rare occasion only on a couple weekends. Not like I could really gun it between traffic lights, you know?
And what feuer said.
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If you really think about how often you're actually driving above and beyond the stock performance levels in daily driving situations you'll come to the realization that it won't wear and tear any faster than untuned , unless you're freaking racing to and from work every day.
I DD'd a Stage 2+ tune for 6mos, but it's not like I was driving balls to the wall every day. Opened it up on rare occasion only on a couple weekends. Not like I could really gun it between traffic lights, you know?
And what feuer said.
Yes exactly that’s how i always drive. Normal DD w occasional pull or need to accelerate fast.

I just didn’t didnt know fin MHD stage 1 would overwork amy stock parts
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Yes exactly that’s how i always drive. Normal DD w occasional pull or need to accelerate fast.

I just didn’t didnt know fin MHD stage 1 would overwork amy stock parts
Then you're good. Just keep her between the ditches!
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I DD my baby. I have 122k highway miles on her. I've got everything tuned up from a maintenance standpoint and would like to run MHD Stage 1.

Out of curiosity, which parts will get hit the hardest with an increased tune?

I don't beat the car really. The main areas of concern will be my injectors, HPFP, and oil pan gasket, (and turbos i guess).

Will the above wear any faster by going MHD Stage 1 or would I be at a similar wear level as just being stock?
The items you listed won't wear any faster on a stage 1 tuned car vs not tuned. The only thing is your sparks plugs, or coils might need to be freshened up to handle the increase - you'll find out right away. Oh and maybe your plastic cp might crack sooner, but it'll crack at stock boost levels anyways.

Almost all the bullshit that goes wrong with this car - ofhg leak, oil pan leak, valve cover leak, carbon buildup, rattling wastegates, vacuum leaks, short circuited dme, failed injectors, wp failure, ps pulley hitting the front subframe causing your belt to shred and get eaten by the front main seal making your engine explode, and more will not be accelerated by some stage 1-2 tuning. So rest easy friend.
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The items you listed won't wear any faster on a stage 1 tuned car vs not tuned. The only thing is your sparks plugs, or coils might need to be freshened up to handle the increase - you'll find out right away. Oh and maybe your plastic cp might crack sooner, but it'll crack at stock boost levels anyways.

Almost all the bullshit that goes wrong with this car - ofhg leak, oil pan leak, valve cover leak, carbon buildup, rattling wastegates, vacuum leaks, short circuited dme, failed injectors, wp failure, ps pulley hitting the front subframe causing your belt to shred and get eaten by the front main seal making your engine explode, and more will not be accelerated by some stage 1-2 tuning. So rest easy friend.
good if true!

why does the PS pulley hit the subframe? from heavy bumps?
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The items you listed won't wear any faster on a stage 1 tuned car vs not tuned. The only thing is your sparks plugs, or coils might need to be freshened up to handle the increase - you'll find out right away. Oh and maybe your plastic cp might crack sooner, but it'll crack at stock boost levels anyways.

Almost all the bullshit that goes wrong with this car - ofhg leak, oil pan leak, valve cover leak, carbon buildup, rattling wastegates, vacuum leaks, short circuited dme, failed injectors, wp failure, ps pulley hitting the front subframe causing your belt to shred and get eaten by the front main seal making your engine explode, and more will not be accelerated by some stage 1-2 tuning. So rest easy friend.
good if true!

why does the PS pulley hit the subframe? from heavy bumps?
The original motor mounts and subframe (pre-IS model) weren't well designed. If the original mounts get worn the ps pulley can contact the subframe under certain conditions. The updated mounts correct for this.
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The original motor mounts and subframe (pre-IS model) weren't well designed. If the original mounts get worn the ps pulley can contact the subframe under certain conditions. The updated mounts correct for this.
didn't know any of that .. and i always wondered how people shredded their belts.

IF i ever change my mounts .. what would be the best ones to get? IS mounts?

Would I replace all of them?
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The original motor mounts and subframe (pre-IS model) weren't well designed. If the original mounts get worn the ps pulley can contact the subframe under certain conditions. The updated mounts correct for this.
didn't know any of that .. and i always wondered how people shredded their belts.

IF i ever change my mounts .. what would be the best ones to get? IS mounts?

Would I replace all of them?
The only options I'd trust are the Bmw IS mount, which used to be $90 but is insane right now, or turner mounts. Folks who used 034 mounts had them fail and shred the belt.
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