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      07-22-2016, 12:29 PM   #23
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Owned since new. A 330d not a 335. 30,000 miles approximately.

Total maintenance cost, plus a jacking point and touch up paint comes in at 526.

Insurance just over 700€ per annum. That's fully comp for the whole of Europe (including Uk), any driver over 25, and breakdown cover (with recovery to home) again for the whole of Europe. No road tax in France.

I don't want to think about depreciation. Actually I wrote off the purchase cost when I bought it, so it's not really a factor.
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      07-22-2016, 03:40 PM   #24
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Not a 335i, but a 330i with 87k miles. Over the past 2 years and 25k I've had to do the following. These costs are simply maintenance related costs and do not include mods. I was working out the cost of running my 330i, including maintenance and depreciation the car has cost me 9k.

04/14 - tyres 534
05/14 - gearbox oil 419
10/14 - oil service 148
11/14 - spark plugs/filter 209
01/15 - diagnostics - ecu fix 150
05/15 - brakes, discs, pads 310
11/15 - water pump 889
02/16 - mot 39
02/16 - oil + brake service 160
02/16 - front tyres 284
03/16 - autoglass - windscreen 75
03/16 - parts 200
04/16 - suspension 800
04/16 - alignment 60
04/16 - parts 300
05/16 - coils 120
06/16 - diagnostics 205
07/16 - velvetronic sensor 300
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      07-22-2016, 05:29 PM   #25
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so i think the point is that 335is may not be as cost hungry as other big engined BMWs
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I guess the 2k I've spent on it this month is a bit of an anonymity, I could have just got 6 months tax & maybe got another month out of the tyres.
To be fair I hadn't had to spend to much on it this year in repairs just a radiator, 6 coils & 6 plugs. The inter cooler & gearbox map weren't strictly necessary
If it's got tits or wheels its trouble
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Raptor F22 & F22 Raptor i reckon a eurofighter would & has (in battle simulation) opened a can off kick arse on a raptor in a dogfight even though the typhoon is a gen 4.5 & the raptor a gen 5
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      07-23-2016, 02:12 AM   #28
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Raptor F22 & F22 Raptor i reckon a eurofighter would & has (in battle simulation) opened a can off kick arse on a raptor in a dogfight even though the typhoon is a gen 4.5 & the raptor a gen 5
Oh wow... I literally just came back to check this thread by chance and saw this Haha! Like I said I don't want to hijack the thread so won't get into it here - care to open a new thread elsewhere? I'm more qualified than most to talk about aircraft, especially Typhoon
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Oh wow... I literally just came back to check this thread by chance and saw this Haha! Like I said I don't want to hijack the thread so won't get into it here - care to open a new thread elsewhere? I'm more qualified than most to talk about aircraft, especially Typhoon
Hello sir, a thread discussing the merits of combat aircraft present & past would IMO be a worthwhile & interesting topic
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      08-09-2016, 07:43 AM   #30
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Not a 335 but a 330d

11/15 - 90 Rear caliper seized
12/15 - 365 MOT, Handbrake shoes, rear pads, rear discs
02/16 - 176 Rear caliper seized (other side)
03/16 - 700 Rear shocks, glow plugs, glow plug controller, swirl flap delete, manifolds, egr controller
03/16 - 35 Fuel system cleaner
04/16 - 220 Rear brakes (other garage fit wrong parts), front tension arm bushes
06/16 - 35 Engine cleaner, flush, friction modifier
07/16 - 35 Fuel system cleaner
07/16 - 700 Oil, Air, Fuel filter, Gearbox service
07/16 - 16 Microfilter self-service
08/16 - 62 Engine breather replacement

2434 more or less, plus im sure i missed small purchases here and there
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Not a 335 but a 330d

11/15 - 90 Rear caliper seized
12/15 - 365 MOT, Handbrake shoes, rear pads, rear discs
02/16 - 176 Rear caliper seized (other side)
03/16 - 700 Rear shocks, glow plugs, glow plug controller, swirl flap delete, manifolds, egr controller
03/16 - 35 Fuel system cleaner
04/16 - 220 Rear brakes (other garage fit wrong parts), front tension arm bushes
06/16 - 35 Engine cleaner, flush, friction modifier
07/16 - 35 Fuel system cleaner
07/16 - 700 Oil, Air, Fuel filter, Gearbox service
07/16 - 16 Microfilter self-service
08/16 - 62 Engine breather replacement

2434 more or less, plus im sure i missed small purchases here and there
Why such a large difference on seized calipers?

What did the gearbox service involve?

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      08-09-2016, 05:24 PM   #32
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Big difference was that the first time I supplied the caliper to an indy, he just did the fitting - so was about 60 plus 30 for the caliper

Second time round I didn't have time to do that and indy bought "OEM quality" caliper which was basically the same thing. Labour cost was higher and also included bleeding the brake system.

Gearbox service was the usual - remove sump pan, flush and replace oil, replace mechatronic sleeve, replace sump pan / filter, reset adaptations
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Welcome to my world, the 335i are not alone re getting hit on repair costs we've seen plenty of 318i's 320i's with big bills too the 4 cylinder engines really surprise me at times re the amount of money they can consume and think about it for a second you may have from the outset bought this spec of car for its potential lower running costs yet in real life and I've seen it countless times before reality is something different.

But on the 335i's yep not the greatest advert for BMW in terms of what money have to be ploughed in to a car to keep it on the road and due to what I'd describe as some glaringly obvious weaknesses compare a 335i v M3, M3's to my eyes are more reliable cause a lot less stress overall (sure they have throttle body issues and other things) but in the real scheme of things looking forward if you take in to consideration the higher insurance/maintenance cost and perhaps slightly lower fuel consumption figures overall they are when you sit where I am surprisingly reliable compared with the say a 335i
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      08-13-2016, 04:46 AM   #34
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2204.01 for a new Diff and 2294.18 for two new turbos...
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      08-13-2016, 05:10 AM   #35
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2204.01 for a new Diff and 2294.18 for two new turbos...
Holy crap... You must really love that car lol

What do you guys think about the money you're spending on your cars? So many people ask me why I bother and that I should just buy a new car instead

For me, I can't imagine driving anything else that's as much fun for what I can afford at the moment and there's no guarantees that a new car will be trouble free.

That said, I am getting to that point where I'm considering cutting my losses if anything else comes up soon
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well...I bought the car in April with a FSH from BMW and I guess its just bad luck. I do worry that I have bought a pig in a poke but I'm a BMW fan and the 335i MSport touring was what I'd always wanted. Good fun to drive and I only paid 8k and there were plenty above 10k...maybe there was a message in the sale price...any way I'll see how it goes but what else could I get for 8k that looks so good, sounds good and drives nice..
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well...I bought the car in April with a FSH from BMW and I guess its just bad luck. I do worry that I have bought a pig in a poke but I'm a BMW fan and the 335i MSport touring was what I'd always wanted. Good fun to drive and I only paid 8k and there were plenty above 10k...maybe there was a message in the sale price...any way I'll see how it goes but what else could I get for 8k that looks so good, sounds good and drives nice..
With a full bmw sh didn't they offer goodwill on the turbos?
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I'm sure you guys do the same as me... I wait for the weekend to buy parts as usually GSF and Eurocarparts have significant discounts. I accept that the parts aren't BMW but for the run of the mill parts it's fine IMO and not that expensive really...they didn't stock a diff tho'. But you can get the electric water pump etc and if you can get 40% discount it's worth considering.
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With a full bmw sh didn't they offer goodwill on the turbos?
Stealers are the worst. If there's a way out of paying out for literally anything they'll try it. I can imagine the response being "oh it's too high mileage it's not one of our warranty covered cars", "user error / beyond normal wear and tear ", "sold as seen" etc etc all excuses I've seen before.

They count on the fact that you're without a car and so will do whatever it takes to get the situation resolved with the least hassle I. E. Not use them

Also not just bmw but a lot of franchise outlets sell slightly cheaper cars next to their "used approved" ones but actually come with zero warranty and aren't covered by their usual T's and C's. Gotta be careful out there!
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I'm sure you guys do the same as me... I wait for the weekend to buy parts as usually GSF and Eurocarparts have significant discounts. I accept that the parts aren't BMW but for the run of the mill parts it's fine IMO and not that expensive really...they didn't stock a diff tho'. But you can get the electric water pump etc and if you can get 40% discount it's worth considering.
Yeah, although increasingly finding it difficult to source garages which let you bring your own parts. Debated that on a different thread a while back
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Stealers are the worst. If there's a way out of paying out for literally anything they'll try it. I can imagine the response being "oh it's too high mileage it's not one of our warranty covered cars", "user error / beyond normal wear and tear ", "sold as seen" etc etc all excuses I've seen before.

They count on the fact that you're without a car and so will do whatever it takes to get the situation resolved with the least hassle I. E. Not use them

Also not just bmw but a lot of franchise outlets sell slightly cheaper cars next to their "used approved" ones but actually come with zero warranty and aren't covered by their usual T's and C's. Gotta be careful out there!
Mine were replaced at 90k. Bmw paid for turbos as goodwill. Guess depends on dealer and relationship
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Yeah, although increasingly finding it difficult to source garages which let you bring your own parts. Debated that on a different thread a while back
Im fortunate that I know a guy well and just give him cash if I don't have time. Quite a lot of parts are pretty simple DIY jobs so I do some jobs myself YouTube is a great source of DIY advice.
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mine just set me back about 120 getting the seized rear wiper sorted. It has been like that for a couple of years so my own fault for not sorting it while the original stuff could be rescued.
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After having spent 2k on mine last month, thus far this month my 335i is running fine & has cost me nothing in parts or repairs

I do find its getting harder justifing to myself spending money on something that's constantly decreasing in value though. I suspect that if I was to add up all the receipts for money's spent over my 4 years of ownership it would be many thousands of pounds. I just don't want to upset myself by adding them all up

There's always something that needs or could do with being sorted. Mine could do with a wheel refurb, the drivers door needs repairing the missus over estimated her ability to get through a gap & a couple of weeks later the same door was hit by a shopping trolley & that was a couple of years ago! The bonnets covered in stone chips & needs a repaint & I would like to fit a charge pipe & some bovs.

Unfortunately I enjoy driving & when you do happen to come upon a nice bit of road & are able to have a bit of a special drive, the feeling my 335i gives me & the smile it puts upon my face is the reason I put up with it. I do find myself thinking more often nowadays that it must be nice to be one of those people that are indifferent to cars & happily drive around in something dull & cheap to run & have no interest in performance
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