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BMW Announces Voluntary N54 Engine (HPFP) and X5 Recall
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10-26-2010, 11:10 PM | #111 | |
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10-26-2010, 11:16 PM | #112 |
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Who ever heard of large corporations being untruthful in order to appease the media... what are you smoking????
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10-27-2010, 12:13 AM | #113 | |
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I wish everyone posting that you don't lose that much power would shut up.... SOME times you won't lose power, but SOMETIMES YOU LOOSE A LOT OF POWER !!!!! People who post like above are as bad as BMW, pretending like it's not a problem..... |
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10-27-2010, 12:15 AM | #114 |
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Just purchased 07 335i about 3 weeks ago and I just took the car in for the 2nd time yesterday!
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10-27-2010, 12:47 AM | #115 |
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10-27-2010, 01:13 AM | #116 |
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so how would this procedure work for those of us that bought a used 335 not through BMW?
I don't see how BMW would have our information to process "first-class" notifications of the recall. would we just call the SA?
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10-27-2010, 01:55 AM | #117 |
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I JUST finished watching the NIghtline right now on ABC 7. All I can say is, FU**#$&... cuz there goes our resale values boys.
Although ABC achieved a victory in forcing a massive, perhaps useless recall, they have totally destroyed our vehicle resale value. Not only that, the image and reputation may have been potentially stained for years. I also feel bad for the N55 owners because they didn't mention about N55 owners. I'm sure N55 will have to wait 4 years before they can get enough "data" and complaints to do a recall. |
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10-27-2010, 01:59 AM | #118 |
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Yea ok, so there is a recall.
No one has said what this means to us, or what BMW is going to do to fix it. Is the recall just admitting there is an issue and live with it? Or did i totally miss that part of the story. Noramlly a recall, resolves the issue, not just tells people what they already know |
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10-27-2010, 06:19 AM | #119 | |
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10-27-2010, 07:53 AM | #121 |
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Ok, so I just got to the office after dropping my car off. I asked my SA about the impending recall, and though he was aware of it he didn't work for BMW full time (this dealer has BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, Infiniti, etc...) so it's understandable his knowledge may be more limited than others. He basically told me at this time, they do a key read, and based on what it says either do nothing or update to the latest software. If there is reasonable doubt as to the fuel pump's immediate longevity they will pull it and pressure test it, PUMA approved, and replace it (again if PUMA approves). Sound familiar?
So as far as I'm concerned, at this point, the letter is exactly what we all thought - a simple announcement to hedge against bad PR from the GMA/Nightline stories. I would've stuck around to talk to a full time BMW SA or the BMW Service Manager, but I was already running late and they were pretty backed up as well. No reason to inconvenience both parties just to hear the same "explanation" from someone higher on the BMW service food chain. |
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10-27-2010, 07:54 AM | #122 |
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10-27-2010, 08:00 AM | #123 |
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Thanks for the reply. Even if it was I wouldnt replace it unless it was giving me trouble. So far after 5k miles no issues knock on wood.
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10-27-2010, 08:00 AM | #124 | |
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IF this somehow turns out to be fuel related, whether it's just another smokescreen or an actual contributor, does not somehow get BMW off the hook for anything. They know exactly where they sell cars and have been doing so for decades - it is up to the manufacturer to produce a product that lives up the customer's satisfaction within the market they bought the product in. It's not like we're all importing these grey market from Europe - these are cars certified North America, and should work as well here as anywhere else. The only thing related to fuel one might reasonable hold is that we have gasoline DI, not diesel DI. Diesel DI has been used for years and quite reliably. Many, but not all, manufacturers of gasoline DI engines have experienced problems with the fuel system, but none to the extent with these fuel pumps. |
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10-27-2010, 08:02 AM | #125 | |
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+ largest market for large engined, high powered engines is USA (ie. 335, 8 cylinders etc) |
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10-27-2010, 08:06 AM | #126 | |
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A simple parallel - take fuses. When a fuse blows, you replace it. When it blows over and over and over, you're not simply replacing fuses. You're looking for what's causing the fuses to blow. The probability of getting defective fuses is a lot lower than the probability of some externalities causing fuses to blow. |
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10-27-2010, 08:11 AM | #127 | |
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But our tax schedule certainly does not disincentivize larger displacement motors as other countries do. |
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10-27-2010, 08:16 AM | #128 |
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Ok so they did a recall...but aren't the pumps STILL BAD??
I had my last one put in a few weeks ago, I guess I got the newest recall version that may last me 5000 miles instead of 3000. |
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10-27-2010, 08:35 AM | #129 |
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Technically the recall has not been issued, but as far as we know, there is no updated part design.
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10-27-2010, 09:00 AM | #130 |
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Perhaps it has something to do with the way the car is being driven. I am not by any stretch implying that the owners with multiple failures are mistreating their cars but it does seem strange that some cars have had multiple failures and some cars have had none.
Perhaps it has something to do with stop and go traffic, rapid acceleration, sustained high speed cruising, etc.? CA
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10-27-2010, 09:03 AM | #131 |
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Is it just me or is this problem going to forever plague this engine and really never been fixed? This engine/fuel pump has been in production since 2006. That's 4 years to not come up with a solution.
I'm on my second pump (and I know others have had a lot more) and now I'm seriously contemplating getting rid of the car especially with the newest software update totally killing any type of driving pleasure I had with this car. I paid the extra to get the 335i and I don't see the point anymore. |
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10-27-2010, 09:16 AM | #132 |
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