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      11-28-2007, 10:19 PM   #1
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Eugene no longer with Procede??

I just saw a post that Eugene a long time subscriber of Procede with all his testing and stuff is selling his Procede!! I can't believe that i am seeing this...Makes me less confident about my purchase....I don't know why he is selling, but Eugene if you can chime in please inform the public of whats the reason...I am very curious because i read all your informative post and threads and i would have never thought you would abandon V2
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      11-28-2007, 10:21 PM   #2
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Like Charlie (CEA 3), who now runs w/ JB2. While we may never know what happened, we can all agree that sh!t happens.
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very interesting
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      11-28-2007, 10:25 PM   #7
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I mean i read somewhere in one of these threads that he was pissed off about something, but what the hell??
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      11-28-2007, 10:26 PM   #8
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Go to the for sale threads...he put the V2 up for sale today and its already sold!!!
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      11-28-2007, 10:33 PM   #9
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This should help you understand...

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Just catched up with this thread.

To keep it short: If this would not be fixed asap and I will not be able to run stable 11-13psi with V2 on my car ( without any overboost ) I will sell the unit. Word.

@Shiv: I don't like "nifty" 22psi . Such a bug is simply not acceptable. I hope you enjoy your 4 day's off, knowing about the problems of your customers. Unbelievable.

I personally did not see such spikes and I run 2.0.2beta but I don't like to check boost permanently using the boost gauge.

Time for me to call a spade a spade.

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Thank you for this information.

Apparently v2.0.1 is having some "issues". It is unbelievable for me that Vishnu does not release immediately a final v2.0.2 map, which is working stable. Shiv knows tuning the 335i and he knows his product. Such a map could exist at least since 2 weeks when Vishnu would be willing to spend the efforts. I like the PROcede V2, I like Vishnu as a company but when they are not willing to fix issues ( I am very confident they can ), the PROcede V2 is the wrong product for me. First quality, then performance.

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See, I always supported Vishnu, did quite some testing and paid exactly the same amount of money as everybody for the V2 solution in total. In addition I paid for reading and clearing error codes stored in the ECU. I communicated them open and quickly to Vishnu.

I like the functionality of the V2 and expected at least a problem-free product. Rolled out conservative, first priority quality, second priority performance.

I am a BMW customer since many years. I am used to get what I pay for and money is not my first priority when I buy something.

Shiv seems to don't get this. He is happy producing power / torque records and satisfied with a 95% finished product. I am not. I still hope he will improve professionality and business behavior. If not, new companies/products are on the horizon which will be alternatives to the V2 and providing what I really want as well as treating their customers better. "You can cancel your order" is not the business behavior I am used and looking for.

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Ive been thinking the same thing. While the PROcede is a great product, the "issues" everybody is having scares me. Plus the fact that I work for a dealer does not float well with BMWNA
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Wow. But I can't say that I'm shocked because Vishnu never had a good reputation for customer service, product delivery & support etc.
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holy shit boost spikes of 22 psi are u kidding me!!!
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      11-28-2007, 10:40 PM   #14
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i am getting my upgrade this week but i may have to hold off on the install till this shit gets ironed out....wow
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Interesting, first Eugene, the one who swears by Procede...sells his..

Then Jonmartin, the guy who likes nothing more than to see Terry dead, now run JB2R...


Perhaps Eugene is also getting the JB2R...


If you guys haven't had the chance to run the JB2R, it's a monster...i have yet to race a V2, but i put a big hurt on 1.47 when we ran...
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Honestly, I am suprised he lasted this long... shiv treats his customers like cattle. And saying things like "if you dont like the way we do things, cancel your order" is not something a bmw driver is used to hearing.
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This concerns me...Shiv!
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this is why i did not get the PROcede, and went with the SSTT. i hope they can get there act together and release a final version that works without bugs. its almost been a year since they started releasing PROcede's to everyone in bulk and since then, it hasnt work 100% for everyone without a limp mode or engine check light or something.
this scared the shit out of me as a buyer.
for a bmw driver to see CEL and limp modes and small issues for $1300 or more is unexceptable and should run 100% before it is released to anyone.

and to the OP, i was reading a thread to where shiv treated you in a matter that you didnt seemed satisfied, i hope everything has worked out for you.
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This concerns me...Shiv!
I second that especially with my upgrade coming this week..
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wow...took a shivite to tell the truth
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This is bothersome... I've been following the thread on boost control with Eugen, Scalbert, etc and I don't feel real great right now. Something must not be right. Eugen has been pretty level headed about things, and doesn't seem to be quick tempered to make a rash decision. Things seemed to be fixed by the way Scalbert and Eugen posted, but then all the sudden he sells the Procede. I have mine out right now. I may have to just stay with v1.47 or v1.48 until this can be worked out. I need some reassurance here, as well as the rest of the Procede v2.0 users probably do. To be fair, I've never had one CEL or limp on v1.47.
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And people questioned me when I said I was selling my PROcede v1/v2 because I thought Shiv's business practices were unacceptable.

Another reason that Helix will not let the Attache be rushed to market before its completely reliable on every beta test car. As of right now there are no boost spikes on the 15lb map. Doesnt mean its perfect yet either. But Im much happier dealing with a company that has more concerns about the current project, than the next one and the one after that.
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