[Artemis]

Originally Posted by dfox

Pulling the audio while being congratulated was pretty immature. He's still got some growing up to do.

I guess that that didn't happen. Messages are broadcast with a delay on TV. Footage raised a false impression: Piastri had already received Zak Brown's message when he disconnected.

Same goes for "box, box" messages: often aired on TV when the driver is already driving inside the pitlane. When it's Ferrari, don't be surprised though to hear "Uh, st-stay out !" when the driver is already driving inside the pitlane, LOL.

[///M Power-Belgium]

[QUOTE=M5Rick;32387153]

Originally Posted by dfox

Max has a pretty good compilation too...

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Silverstone? Italy? hit from behind, tripped by HAM oh come on, virtually all of those were not MAX's doing

I didn't see it , but apparently MAX gets hit from behind by Norris in turn 3 (!)

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by Artemis

I guess that that didn't happen. Messages are broadcast with a delay on TV. Footage raised a false impression: Piastri had already received Zak Brown's message when he disconnected.

It doesn't matter if it already happened or not and that it was said at that exact moment.
It's Singapore, the drivers have just driven a GP.
I think when they drive their cars into the paddock, there's only one thing on their mind, and that is to get out of that blazing hot car and get a cool drink, as they're about to faint.
They're not gonna wait and chat with their teamboss.
The disconnect because of the message is a narrative created by the media.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by dfox

Question: is what Norris did against any rules?
Max has been penalized a lot over the years for dirty moves against Norris, but this seems to be a nothingburger that the media and social media influencers want to grab a hold of because they need your clicks.
Man, the anti-norris crowd really are crybabies.

Think again: there's nothing wrong with being smart, but this was unsportsmanlike behavior by Norris. Sign of weakness: Lando perceives Max as a threat in the WDC. Can't see Piastri doing something like that.

Norris got warned by his team that Verstappen was approaching for his final Q3 push lap. Norris forced Verstappen into abandoning his chance to get pole position. We've seen it many times before how Verstappen can squeeze out a top lap time in the dying stages of a Q3, with the track being optimal (progressively 'rubbered' as the qualies move on).

Verstappen ain't no saint, definitely, but neither is Norris. Verstappen commented: "that's noted - will be remembered as well". An angry Verstappen is a dangerous Verstappen: bad idea to cross him with what he perceives as unsportsmanlike behavior - he's wired in a particular way (feel free to ask Perez what savage wrath he encountered during the Brazil 2022 GP with Verstappen subtly reminding him to Monaco 2022 Q3 as "I've got my reasons !").

Mark my words: Verstappen will 'settle the bill' with "Not Oscar" in one of the remaining 2025 race weekends, for example by helping Piastri getting the 2025 WDC at the expense of Norris. The moment when it will happen (a fierce defence of track position, a racing incident with DNF and the like), the very thought "Oh look, that was for Singapore Q3. Poor Lando." may cross your mind.

Proper analysis:

[G30M]

Ferrari brakes are not fit for purpose, that's why they are always so slow in the race

[G30M]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Old popular thread here at Bimmerpost (63 pages - 1.4 million views):
"I can't believe you've done this"
https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=253118

Alonso still cannot believe what happened in 2007:

i want to know when Alonso is going to do his 6 months of community service for this

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Think again: there's nothing wrong with being smart, but this was unsportsmanlike behavior by Norris. Sign of weakness: Lando perceives Max as a threat in the WDC. Can't see Piastri doing something like that.

Norris got warned by his team that Verstappen was approaching for his final Q3 push lap. Norris forced Verstappen into abandoning his chance to get pole position. We've seen it many times before how Verstappen can squeeze out a top lap time in the dying stages of a Q3, with the track being optimal (progressively 'rubbered' as the qualies move on).

Verstappen ain't no saint, definitely, but neither is Norris. Verstappen commented: "that's noted - will be remembered as well". An angry Verstappen is a dangerous Verstappen: bad idea to cross him with what he perceives as unsportsmanlike behavior - he's wired in a particular way (feel free to ask Perez what savage wrath he encountered during the Brazil 2022 GP with Verstappen subtly reminding him to Monaco 2022 Q3 as "I've got my reasons !").

Mark my words: Verstappen will 'settle the bill' with "Not Oscar" in one of the remaining 2025 race weekends, for example by helping Piastri getting the 2025 WDC at the expense of Norris. The moment when it will happen (a fierce defence of track position, a racing incident with DNF and the like), the very thought "Oh look, that was for Singapore Q3. Poor Lando." may cross your mind.

So in a nutshell NOR's plan swirling through his head in those moments of quali prevented MAX from being 10 points closer to NOR rather than just 3.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by G30M

Ferrari brakes are not fit for purpose, that's why they are always so slow in the race

In Charlies case he did use the f-word methinks out of frustration and was ignored by stewards as not directed at anyone. Compounding the issues on their failing brakes would be like mercilessly slaying a brave gladiator in the Colosseum.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by G30M

i want to know when Alonso is going to do his 6 months of community service for this

Only applies if off radio or if on radio to an official or someone by name, depending on the weight of the swearing.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by G30M

i want to know when Alonso is going to do his 6 months of community service for this

There is lenience when the driver is in action on track.

Last year, Johnny Herbert & C° penalized Verstappen for saying "the car was f**ked" during a press conference.

• Sep 20, 2024 - 2024 Singapore GP: use of language "the car was f**ked" to describe his car, during the FIA Thursday Driver Press Conference, which is generally considered "coarse, rude" or may "cause offense" and is not considered suitable for broadcast
  • obligation to accomplish some work of public interest - no penalty points
  • FIA stewards: Tim Mayer - Mathieu Remmerie - Johnny Herbert - Paul Ng
  • Decision file: https://www.fia.com/sites/default/fi...20Language.pdf

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Only applies if off radio or if on radio to an official or someone by name, depending on the weight of the swearing.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

In Charlies case he did use the f-word methinks out of frustration and was ignored by stewards as not directed at anyone. Compounding the issues on their failing brakes would be like mercilessly slaying a brave gladiator in the Colosseum.

According to Racing.NL : Yuki's last race in the RB21 was the 2025 Singapore GP (!)
The Dutch article => https://racing.nl/formule-1/f1-coure...-de-weg-kwijt/
Yuki lost it completely...

If it is true .Damn (!) That's a shame

[fs1977]

Clickbait title. He didn't "lose it" and also isn't going to get fired in the coming couple of day's. According to the Dutch analists he had a bad self assesment after the race and that his performance will mean his Red Bull career AFTER this season will be over. .

That's it. He has some big Honda backing, so probably wasn't going to stay at RBR in 2026 anyway.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

According to Racing.NL : Yuki's last race in the RB21 was the 2025 Singapore GP (!)
The Dutch article => https://racing.nl/formule-1/f1-coure...-de-weg-kwijt/
Yuki lost it completely...

If it is true .Damn (!) That's a shame

Honda forked out millions to ensure Tsunoda getting the second RBR seat for the rest of the 2025 season once Lawson got into hot water and demoted.

But Tsunoda's failed 'tenure' at RBR will end the moment that he parks the car after the 2025 Abu Dhabi chequered flag (or earlier during that race in the event of a mishap). Despite some hope, he proved to be of virtually no use for Verstappen and the RBR WCC.

TSU: WDC P17 | 17 WDC/WCC points in 16 race weekends (16 GP and 3 Sprint) for RBR = ± 1 WDC/WCC point per race weekend


VER: WDC P3 | 237 WDC/WCC points in 16 race weekends (16 GP and 3 Sprint) for RBR = ± 15 WDC/WCC points per race weekend

[Rono63]

Originally Posted by fs1977

Clickbait title. He didn't "lose it" and also isn't going to get fired in the coming couple of day's. According to the Dutch analists he had a bad self assesment after the race and that his performance will mean his Red Bull career AFTER this season will be over. .

That's it. He has some big Honda backing, so probably wasn't going to stay at RBR in 2026 anyway.

Honda may pay for him to be the reserve driver for Aston in 2026. Don’t think any other team would want him.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Honda forked out millions to ensure Tsunoda getting the second RBR seat for the rest of the 2025 season once Lawson got into hot water and demoted.

But Tsunoda's failed 'tenure' at RBR will end the moment that he parks the car after the 2025 Abu Dhabi chequered flag (or earlier during that race in the event of a mishap). Despite some hope, he proved to be of virtually no use for Verstappen and the RBR WCC.

TSU: WDC P17 | 17 WDC/WCC points in 16 race weekends (16 GP and 3 Sprint) for RBR = ± 1 WDC/WCC point per race weekend
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VER: WDC P3 | 237 WDC/WCC points in 16 race weekends (16 GP and 3 Sprint) for RBR = ± 15 WDC/WCC points per race weekend
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I know (of course) Honda's support to get Yuki in the RB21 seat was huge .
On the other hand :
If the Red Bull Team (WCC-P4) still wants to get a chance to finish in the WCC top-3 , then it's possible that Yuki will be replaced by Hadjar in the next races of this season.
Especially currently (so it looks like) as Mercedes is getting stronger and is scoring many WCC ponts.
I'm not sure if the Red Bull Team and Honda wants to sacrifice a WCC top-3 to keep Yuki in the RB21 seat for the rest of this season.
And if Hadjar would be faster than Yuki in the RB21 that's the $Million question..

And of course , the Dutch Racing.NL article can be click bait .
We'll see it soon enough at COTA (oct. 17/19)

[GuidoK]

I know Lollipopman comics made an announcement (I think about half a year ago?) that he was gonna do only certain races because of the time it takes to make the video's, but I guess there's so much happening in F1 that every race there's a comic, sometimes even a short to go with it too
F1 is one big soap

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

It doesn't matter if it already happened or not and that it was said at that exact moment.
It's Singapore, the drivers have just driven a GP.
I think when they drive their cars into the paddock, there's only one thing on their mind, and that is to get out of that blazing hot car and get a cool drink, as they're about to faint.
They're not gonna wait and chat with their teamboss.
The disconnect because of the message is a narrative created by the media.

Exactly (!)

As you can see ...

[Rono63]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Exactly (!)

As you can see ...

Why do you think most drivers declined wearing the cool vest?
Does it hamper their ability to drive or is very uncomfortable?

[Killed by Death]

The clown show, which is Ferrari, continues

All this talk of Max leaving for MB, I think it will be Charlie

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

According to Racing.NL : Yuki's last race in the RB21 was the 2025 Singapore GP (!)
The Dutch article => https://racing.nl/formule-1/f1-coure...-de-weg-kwijt/
Yuki lost it completely...

If it is true .Damn (!) That's a shame

Decisions have to be made and someone is needed to haul in points for the constructors not finish pointless nearly every race.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

PIA's has a (strong) point, that reaction by NOR hitting PIA after bumping MAX was a purposeful overreaction by him and gobbledegooked by ''I'm not sure what happened''.