[Malaka1]

My current mods:

Procede CANbus
Vishnu DCI
AA Intercooler
AR Design Catless dp's
Stock mid-pipes
UUC RSC335 Axle-Back exhaust


Can I run the Stage 3 maps now since I have everything required besides being "fully" catless, with the stock mid-pipes still in place?
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[jpsimon]

stage 3 is for fully catless cars

[scottp999]

Only one real way to find out. Datalog both stage 2 and stage 3.

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Stg 1-- stock and mild bolt-on (intake, cat-back, dps, etc,.)
Stg 2-- intake and no cats
Stg 3-- intake, no cats and FMIC

There is some flexibility with those requirements of course. Just don't use a map that is too aggressive for your mods.

Shiv

By definition of the above you would be a stage 1 car. I think that's why there is "flexibility".

[Malaka1]

Originally Posted by jpsimon

stage 3 is for fully catless cars

True, but all I have are those little dinky pre-cats still in there... I mean does adding midpipes really make a big difference?

[scottp999]

Originally Posted by Malaka1

True, but all I have are those little dinky pre-cats still in there... I mean does adding midpipes really make a big difference?

Depends on the flow rate of those stock cats. I run stage 3 with hi flow cats in the DP's and no secondary cats.

From something I saw before the DP stock cats flow at 300 cfm, magnaflow hi flow cats at 600 cfm and open pipe 1000cfm.

[zsapphire7]

I tried stg 3 with HFC but I couldnt run higher UT because even at 100% ic, you can see the ecu pull back timing. I would recommend just sticking to stg2 until you get meth or something .

[sashmanparker]

Originally Posted by zsapphire7

I tried stg 3 with HFC but I couldnt run higher UT because even at 100% ic, you can see the ecu pull back timing. I would recommend just sticking to stg2 until you get meth or something .

hfc in the dp's or midpipes?

what stage would you say for catless dp's w/ all other boltons with ae's hfc exhaust???

[shyestsparks]

Originally Posted by zsapphire7

I tried stg 3 with HFC but I couldnt run higher UT because even at 100% ic, you can see the ecu pull back timing. I would recommend just sticking to stg2 until you get meth or something .

+1; same thing for me.

[Cyruz]

i cant see the midpipes being as restrictive in flow as the big cats in the DP's. i would imagine that by catless for the tuners, they mean dp catless or at minimun high flow cats with bigger piping. then again i think the exhaust shiv has on his car is from down pipe back and eliminates the 2nd set of cats anyway.

[zsapphire7]

Im running AR catless DP + AE HFC catback

Originally Posted by sashmanparker

hfc in the dp's or midpipes?

what stage would you say for catless dp's w/ all other boltons with ae's hfc exhaust???

[vase330]

So what would you guys say to running stage 2 with;
AR Catted DPs, Upgraded FMIC stock everything else and default user settings
on 93 Octane?

[Cyruz]

i would upgrade the intake. you will suffer with the stock box. other wise that pretty much is the stage 3 map criteria. minus a catback system. but if you got the rest of the stuff, definately go stage 2 and try stage 3. do some data logs on both and see how they come out.

[creaminz]

Same boat here...really not sure which Stage I should be running. I was happy with Stage II, but noticed some inconsistency compare to Stage I..(but better woomph when power delivery is 100%)

Should I stick to Stage II or back to Stage I and up the UT setting? what'd would be the ideal UT setting @ Stage I for following mods?

AA Intercooler
Vishnu DCI
Vanguard Exhaust

[Chefcg1]

I have catless DP, Injen intake, and I run stage 2 at 90% on 93 oct without any issues and no timing being pulled. As soon as I get my VK intercooler I will try stage 2 at 100% and stage 3 to see what happens.

[jpsimon]

100% ut??

[Malaka1]

I did a few 3rd gear pulls and datalogged them and everything looks fine...

Stage 3
UT 80%
IC 80%

[cn555ic]

Originally Posted by Chefcg1

I have catless DP, Injen intake, and I run stage 2 at 90% on 93 oct without any issues and no timing being pulled. As soon as I get my VK intercooler I will try stage 2 at 100% and stage 3 to see what happens.

I don't suggest you ever go 100% at any stage unless you are running race gas and meth at the same time with all the bolt ons possible...

[Malaka1]

Originally Posted by cn555ic

I don't suggest you ever go 100% at any stage unless you are running race gas and meth at the same time with all the bolt ons possible...

I think he is talking about 100% IC..