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      08-01-2019, 12:53 AM   #1
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Anti Trap and Convertible top Problems

Anyone familiar with there anti trap system and Convertible top. Both of them do not work for me and I am so clueless to get it fixed. I was told by the dealer itís a coding issue and such so can anyone lead me a way to diagnose this.
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      08-01-2019, 01:16 AM   #2
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Oh and my electric glovebox latch wonít open so I have to use the key to lock and unlock it. If this has anything similar.
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Oh and my electric glovebox latch won’t open so I have to use the key to lock and unlock it. If this has anything similar.
It could be either disconnected or broken.
Mine was broken many years ago. You only have to remove 2 screws and replace it for new one.
In my case, I could hear the actuator when lock the car with the remote but nothing happens. The axle was outside its position and I decided to replace it with a new part.

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Anyone familiar with there anti trap system and Convertible top. Both of them do not work for me and I am so clueless to get it fixed. I was told by the dealer itís a coding issue and such so can anyone lead me a way to diagnose this.
Roof won't work until you reset the anti-trap feature.
Usually you can do it using the power windows switch buttons rolling down the windows (one at once) and keep pushing the button for 10 seconds.
Then roll up the window and keep pulling the button for 10 seconds again.

Repeat the process with the other 3 windows. If this does not work, then you have to use INPA/ISTAD and trigger the proper job from the menu.

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I encountered a similar issue with a vert in the past. You have to do the above process using the "all windows" button on the driver's door panel and not the individual window buttons. This resets the windows and then the roof should work as normal.
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      08-13-2019, 12:54 PM   #6
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Oh and my electric glovebox latch wonít open so I have to use the key to lock and unlock it. If this has anything similar.
I had this issue as have many. In my case, disassembly and resetting the engagement of the worm gear mechanism solved the problem.

https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sh...=660733&page=2

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      08-13-2019, 09:36 PM   #7
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Well when ever I try and reset the anti trap feature it won't work. I have used INPA and tried to buttons on the door. I am unsure how to get it working.
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I don't even get an error whenever I try to roll down my front windows. They don't drop the half-inch when I open the door for the borderless convertible or coupe windows. I don't know if the previous owner disabled the VO in NCSexpert or something (If there even is a VO for it). My rear windows need the hall sensors replaced so I don't know if that is causing the convertible top to not work.
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Big Bump i really need help
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Did you try what I suggested above?
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I have, Unfortunately, it doesn't work. I still have the one tap up and down feature but not the feature of the Window dropping down an inch or so when I open the door.
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Anything notable precede the failure of the window drop and convertible top operation? Did both fail at exactly the same time? Or did you buy the car this way?

Had you done some coding or programming shortly before the failures? Had the battery disconnected for any length of time? There are a number of entries in the FRM relating to the window drop on door opening (which is not the same as anti-trap) which might have been affected.

How do you know the rear windows need Hall sensors replaced?

Have you read error codes for all modules with INPA or ISTA/D? If not, do so and report them here.

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I bought the car with these problems and have had the battery disconnected at times for long periods. I know the rear windows need the hall sensors because I read the codes with carley. I just wanted to get this window dropping issue fixed and the convertible top fixed. Would make this car perfect
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Report ALL the codes please

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Carly found 19 control units.
44 fault codes were detected.
Jan 31 2019 - 3 Cabriolet (E93), Build Year 2008 1/9

Motor Control
Engine / Motor
Fault Code: 0030BE
Fault Explanation: Injector coding, plausibility
Fault Code: 0029F4
Fault Explanation: catalyst conversion
Fault Code: 0029F5
Fault Explanation: Catalyst Conversion 2
ABS / DSC / Brake
Dynamische Stabilitaets Kontrolle / DSC
Fault Code: 005DE1
Fault Explanation: :internal control unit: Stack error micro2 / DSC- ECU: ECU Internal: Clock status of the SP interface is missing watch. / Lining Wear HA not / incorrectly initialized. / ASC additional valve 2
Fault Code: 005DE0
Fault Explanation: SC ECU: ECU internally: plausibility of the VASP- U bit in relation to Uz supply voltage terminal 15 Grad. / ASC additional valve 1 / Controller internal: Runtime micro2 / DSC ECU: ECU internally: plausibility of the VASP-U bit in relation to Uz supply voltage terminal 15 --- (DSC: Control unit internal) / Lining Wear VA does not / incorrectly initialized.



Jan 31 2019 - 3 Cabriolet (E93), Build Year 2008 2/9

Airbag
Advanced Crash and Safety Management (ACSM)
Fault Code: 0093C6
Fault Explanation: :SLV driver / Failure in the alarm path / SLV / driver's seat module
Fault Code: 0093FB
Fault Explanation: :SBR function - missing speed signal / Speed - missing speed signal / SBR - Function - speed signal is missing / n.i.O. capacity of the energy reserve
Fault Code: 009406
Fault Explanation: :Current requirement Active Front Steering (AFS) too high / Rollover Controller - undervoltage
Fault Code: 0093D0
Fault Explanation: :Terminal 15 is invalid / Switching off module 10 (SSbF) / Supply voltage - undervoltage
Fault Code: 009413
Fault Explanation: :Knee airbag passenger / Interruption illuminated sign / Knee airbag passenger (E88, E93, E84)
Transmission Control


Transmission / Getriebe GS 19 ECU OK, no Fault Code ✔
Jan 31 2019 - 3 Cabriolet (E93), Build Year 2008 3/9

Instrument cluster
Instrument cluster / Kombiinstrument
Fault Code: 00A54E
Fault Explanation: :ID failure or Alive seatback latch driver / CAN ID 34B ERROR failure message StatusSitzlehnenverriegelungFA
Fault Code: 00A559
Fault Explanation: :KL30g f shutdown / KL.30g f shutdown / KL30g f Cutoff / Klemme30g f shutdown
Fault Code: 00931D
Fault Explanation: :BOARD POWER SUPPLY, OR OVERVOLTAGE UNDERVOLTAGE / BORDNETVOLTAGE, overvoltage or undervoltage / CAN Time Out RDC / ID failure RDC / ID loss RDC (held) / Windshield encoder error
Fault Code: 00A554
Fault Explanation: :ALIVE error Phone / live phone
Fault Code: 00A3AD
Fault Explanation: :CAN ID 1D0 ERROR failure message engine data
Fault Code: 00A3AE
Fault Explanation: :CAN ID 0AA ERROR failure Embassy speed idling / CAN ID 0AA ERROR Failure Message idle engine speed / CAN ID 0AA ERROR failure message Drehmoment3


Jan 31 2019 - 3 Cabriolet (E93), Build Year 2008 4/9

Heating / AC
Air conditioning / Klimaanlage
Fault Code: 009C6C
Fault Explanation: :Spritzduesenheizung / 12V output peripheral / Monitor AUC supply / 12V Supply stepper motor / reference switch / steering column adjustment motor / reserve 4 / Current Sense for AUC supply / heating / 12V supply peripherals
Fault Code: 00E717
Fault Explanation: :Can embassy motor data / CAN message engine data / Embassy (KCAN: relative time, 328)
Fault Code: 00E71A
Fault Explanation: :CAN message Torque 3 / Embassy (KCAN: terminal status, 130) / Can embassy torque 3
Fault Code: 00E71B
Fault Explanation: :CAN message heat flow engine / Embassy (KCAN: Outside temperature 2CA) / Can embassy heat flow engine
Fault Code: 00E720
Fault Explanation: :Embassy (KCAN: Status solar sensor, 3D3) / Embassy (KCAN: LCD brightness, 2C0) / CAN message Power Management consumer control / Can embassy Power Management consumer control


Jan 31 2019 - 3 Cabriolet (E93), Build Year 2008 5/9

Immobilizer System
CAS
Fault Code: 00A0B4
Fault Explanation: :Error engine start starter operation A0B4
Fault Code: 00A0B1
Fault Explanation: :SG input P N A0B1
Fault Code: 00A0B5
Fault Explanation: :Signal detection speed error / DFAHL cable break A0B5
Fault Code: 00A118
Fault Explanation: :ASW signal detection speed error
Park distance control


Park Distance Control / PDC ECU OK, no Fault Code ✔
Audio/Navi/Communication
Phone / Telefon ECU OK, no Fault Code ✔
Jan 31 2019 - 3 Cabriolet (E93), Build Year 2008 6/9
Digital Satellite-Tuner USA ECU OK, no Fault Code ✔ Car Communication Computer CCC
Fault Code: 00E18F
Fault Explanation: :Central Registry does not match the target configuration (Error Registry New). ✗
MASK ECU OK, no Fault Code ✔
Seats
Seats / Sitze ECU OK, no Fault Code ✔ Seats / Sitze
Fault Code: 009ED1 Fault Explanation: :Error switch LDC ✗
Systems
Junction Box Passenger / Beifahrer
Fault Code: 00A72A
Fault Explanation: :WINDOW DRIVER REAR HALL SENSOR 1 / HALLSENSOR1 FH FA REAR
Fault Code: 00A72C
Fault Explanation: :HALLSENSOR1 FH BF REAR / WINDOW PASSENGER REAR HALL SENSOR 1

Jan 31 2019 - 3 Cabriolet (E93), Build Year 2008 7/9
Fuel pump / Kraftstoffpumpe ECU OK, no Fault Code ✔ Tire pressure control / Reifendruck Kontrolle
Fault Code: 00604E
Fault Explanation: :Error RDC system / Error tire pressure control system
Fault Code: 006054
Fault Explanation: :Error wheel sensor VL
Fault Code: 006055

Fault Explanation: :Error wheel sensor VR
Fault Code: 006056
Fault Explanation: :Error wheel sensor HL
Fault Code: 006057
Fault Explanation: :Error wheel sensor HR
Fault Code: 00D13E
Fault Explanation: :Error CAN telegram timeout when receiving / Error message timeout when receiving


Passive Go System ECU OK, no Fault Code ✔
Jan 31 2019 - 3 Cabriolet (E93), Build Year 2008 8/9

Body
Fussraummodul /FRM
Fault Code: 00E59A
Fault Explanation: :Telegram yaw rate timeout
Fault Code: 00E59C
Fault Explanation: :Telegram PT-CAN steering angle timeout
Fault Code: 00E594
Fault Explanation: :Telegram steering angle timeout
Fault Code: 009CAB
Fault Explanation: :a terminal 15 missing / Unfortunately, no error text available
Fault Code: 009CB5
Fault Explanation: :Unfortunately, no error text available / Energy- saving mode active / Battery deep discharge
Fault Code: 00A8BA
Fault Explanation: :Tail light broken right 1
Fault Code: 00A8B9
Fault Explanation: :Tail light broken left 1
Fault Code: 00A8AD
Fault Explanation: :Parking light right defective
Fault Code: 00A8AC
Fault Explanation: :Parking light left broken


These are the Codes when I bought the car.
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OK

1) Lets find out which ones are current. So clear all of them and let see which ones recur.

2) What components have you replaced since purchasing the car?
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I don't even get an error whenever I try to roll down my front windows. They don't drop the half-inch when I open the door for the borderless convertible or coupe windows. I don't know if the previous owner disabled the VO in NCSexpert or something (If there even is a VO for it). My rear windows need the hall sensors replaced so I don't know if that is causing the convertible top to not work.
I took a look at the pictures you sent, and it has E90 in the VO, not E93. Presumably done when the CAS or FRM was replaced.

I think, until the VO is changed from E90 to E93, you'll continue to have issues like this.
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Ok, So how do I change my VO from an E90 to E93, Does this require some special tools or anything. Am I able to just use NCS and my K+Dcan cable?
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Just NCS and cable are all you need. Plenty of tutorials you can google
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I see tutorials on how to change and add a VO but not change the chassis and VO to fit a different Chassis
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Update. i was able to change my VO to my cars VO using a BMW vin decoder. I ended up with this VO and I used http://bimmer.work/vin/b1f7388f1e839...9a4d7de553dc8/ to get my VO. I went ahead and updated the VO on the CAS and FRM. Hopefully, this is a good step in the direction I need to get my car fixed.

E93_#0308*WL73%0A35&LCD3$1CA$205$249$2C6$2VB$2XA$3 19$322$430$431$441$459$481$488$4AB$4NA$507$520$521 $522$524$534$544$563$570$5GA$639$645$655$663$677$6 94$6FL$704$823$840$845$850$853$876$8SC$8SP$925$9AA-B090
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