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      09-28-2018, 06:00 PM   #1
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Front clunking when turning and going over bump

I'm getting a heavy clunk sound from the front suspension when I'm turning into a parking lot that has a dip or turning into an angled driveway. Turning on a flat road makes no noise whatsoever.

Is this the symptom of bad swaybar end links or bushings? I had the wheels off and couldn't feel any free play when trying to move it by hand, but didn't try a pry bar yet.

UPDATE: It was a loose bolt where the strut braces meet at the firewall. Not just under torqued, but very loose.

I also get a very slight vibration through the steering wheel at speeds over 55, despite having the wheels/tires balanced twice and rotated twice. Is this a bad thrust arm bushing?

UPDATE: It was bad thrust arm bushings. Not knowing a whole lot about BMW OEM suppliers, I replaced with Delphi brand thrust arms and I'm pleased to update that after five years and 50K miles they're still holding up great.

Last edited by lowrydr310; 12-09-2023 at 04:25 PM.. Reason: updated with solution
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      09-28-2018, 06:22 PM   #2
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Check top strut mount.
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      09-30-2018, 10:00 PM   #4
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Check top strut mount.
How? Jack the front end up and try moving with a prybar?

That's exactly where it sounds like the clunk is coming from.
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      09-30-2018, 10:45 PM   #5
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=4w1IW2_oU2s Check-out the first 30 sec.
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      10-01-2018, 12:20 AM   #6
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It could be several things but control arm bushings and strut mounts are the most likely culprits. When you're going about 20 mph and quickly but firmly tap the brakes several times, can you feel it? Grab the wheel at 9 and 3 to check for fore-and-aft play pointing to worn control arm bushings. Visually inspect strut hats with a light from up top. You can sometimes see the control arm clunk if you brake hard next to a black car and you're looking for it lol
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      10-02-2018, 11:45 AM   #7
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Mine did that, it was a leaking front strut.
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Check top strut mount.
Exactly my problem with my e87.
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I'm getting a heavy clunk sound from the front suspension when I'm turning into a parking lot that has a dip or turning into an angled driveway. Turning on a flat road makes no noise whatsoever.

Is this the symptom of bad swaybar end links or bushings? I had the wheels off and couldn't feel any free play when trying to move it by hand, but didn't try a pry bar yet.


I also get a very slight vibration through the steering wheel at speeds over 55, despite having the wheels/tires balanced twice and rotated twice. Is this a bad thrust arm bushing?
Could be : in not in any particular order

1) nuts need to be re-torqued around the control arms - not likely unless you just put in new arms etc.

2) one or more control arms are bad

3) front wheel bearing(s) are bad - clunk is not part of a wheel bearing going bad though

4) sway bar link is bad, but it shouldn't create vibrations after 55mph

5) tie rod(s) are bad

6) strut bearing(s) are bad.
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I'm getting a heavy clunk sound from the front suspension when I'm turning into a parking lot that has a dip or turning into an angled driveway. Turning on a flat road makes no noise whatsoever.

Is this the symptom of bad swaybar end links or bushings? I had the wheels off and couldn't feel any free play when trying to move it by hand, but didn't try a pry bar yet.


I also get a very slight vibration through the steering wheel at speeds over 55, despite having the wheels/tires balanced twice and rotated twice. Is this a bad thrust arm bushing?
Could be : in not in any particular order

1) nuts need to be re-torqued around the control arms - not likely unless you just put in new arms etc.

2) one or more control arms are bad

3) front wheel bearing(s) are bad - clunk is not part of a wheel bearing going bad though

4) sway bar link is bad, but it shouldn't create vibrations after 55mph

5) tie rod(s) are bad

6) strut bearing(s) are bad.
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      10-02-2018, 04:29 PM   #11
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It could be several things but control arm bushings and strut mounts are the most likely culprits. When you're going about 20 mph and quickly but firmly tap the brakes several times, can you feel it? Grab the wheel at 9 and 3 to check for fore-and-aft play pointing to worn control arm bushings. Visually inspect strut hats with a light from up top. You can sometimes see the control arm clunk if you brake hard next to a black car and you're looking for it lol
Definitely not control arm clunking. I can't feel any free play in the wheel (but haven't tried a prybar). I inspected the top strut mounts and the rubber is solid and looks fairly fresh. Sadly that's not the case for my front shocks as the bump stops are rotted and the boots are cracked. Could it just be bad shocks causing this? The rubber in the strut mount looks fine but I can't see/feel the bearing. I think I'll replace those at the same time as my shocks.
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      10-02-2018, 11:12 PM   #12
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Visual inspection of the Top strut mount won't work. You have to lift that corner of the car and try to move the wheel up and down. The bearings get worn and allow for the up and down movement causing the clunk sound. I actually had to lift the wheel with one hand and keep a finger from the other hand on the strut top nut to feel the play.
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I found the source of this clunk and I'm embarrassed to admit that I didn't check for this sooner. The bolt holding the drivers side strut bar/brace (connecting the strut tower to the firewall) was loose. Very loose, to the point where the brace had about 1/2" of up and down free play. I tightened it up and there's no more clunk.

The funny thing is that it also resolved an annoying rattle that I had coming from deep in the center dashboard when going over rough roads. I had suspected a loose bolt under the dash and planned on removing my iDrive display and stereo (CD/DVD drives) to check for it, however it looks like it was the rattling strut brace transmitting the noise to the center of the firewall.

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      10-15-2018, 05:08 PM   #14
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Makes a lot of sense, especially with your secondary issue. Good chase.
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