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Decided on Dinan over Procede/JB3 -- childish to want the badge?
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05-13-2010, 09:39 AM | #67 | |
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very well put. Some people love Dinan for the warranty....just like Tommy Boy said, 'I can take a shit in a box if you want me to and put a warranty on it"
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05-13-2010, 11:28 AM | #71 | |
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ditch the runflats please!!!! get a continental mobility kit from tirerack
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05-13-2010, 11:46 AM | #72 |
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A quote by road&track from oct 17 2008
Key to the transformation was Dinan's cracking the encryption of BMW's engine-management computers — a process that has taken years, a brain trust of software personnel and copious infusions of cash. Less determined competitors have either folded under the strain or simply reverted to piggyback engine controllers.
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05-13-2010, 11:52 AM | #73 | |
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thanks for the 2 year old quote from a less than biased source. Well done. lets get Road and Track to do an honest test on a Dinan software tuned car vs a Procede or JB3 car on the track and on the street and we'll see what they say. it wont be pretty for the Dinan......
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http://www.dinancars.com/assets/File...%20revised.pdf The maximum boost that you'll see out of a Dinan tune is 14 psi. Also it does tapper quite a bit after 6,000 rpm. That's why I still aim my shift points at 6,200. The reason is uncle Steve doesn't want use spinning our turbos that fast or cooking our engines. That's his call. He's the one backstopping BMW's warranty. That said, the piggybacks have come along way. We aren't hearing any reports of blown turbos or cooked engines, so these engines are perhaps tougher than Steve may think. You can accuse Dinan of being too conservative, but you won't be hearing it from me. Once again, he's making the bet and I plan on keeping my car a long time. I can say, if you care at all, that I'm getting very smooth linear power up to 6,000. I've also have had no hassles from my non-Dinan dealer about my tune, nor have my tune and supporting mods given me any problems. I've sunk a lot into it no doubt, but I do enjoy the instant ON smooth power. The last time I went to the track I lined up twice against a new Camero SS with some performance mods and PNY KLR for plates. I beat him both times by a couple of car lengths. I also had someone asking me if my car was a special edition with a V-12 or something. That's what it's about, not trying to beat up on your fellow 335 bros. So happy hunting (Cameros and such, not 335's) and enjoy your ride!
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05-13-2010, 01:29 PM | #75 | |
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Yeah, that was funny 10 years ago.
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05-13-2010, 01:42 PM | #76 |
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IMO, this is all BS. Dinan doesn't run boost above 14psi. Set the Procede and JB3 to not boost over 14psi and call it a day. Most problem that occur are users experimenting at those higher boost level without the supporting modes or right fuel octane. GIAC even sets you up a different flash map for a higher octane level.
On the warranty side, why would anyone offer warranty other than their product. I won't sell you a keyboard and tell you if anything happens with your computer I will replace that too. I agree with the above post on the Tommy Boy movie reference. Most customers who are buying a Dinan tune, are comfortable with the warranty they offer and not the tune, as there are other cheaper alternatives. On what a flash company does a month is irrelevant of what tune is better. All that number shows is how many customers are more comfortable with a warranty.
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05-13-2010, 01:42 PM | #77 | |
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its actually a funny reference for this discussion, which is why I brought it up.
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05-13-2010, 01:46 PM | #78 | |
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14psi has been proven for years as a very very safe tune level. I understand why Steve would stop at that level, he doesnt want to pay back any $$ just like an insurance company wants to keep their $$. In my eyes Dinan is actually pretty handcuffed by their warranty. They cant push the envolope at all due to their business model.
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05-14-2010, 03:14 AM | #79 |
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Depends on the type of woman you get hitched with. I certainly don't have this problem with my wife...
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Just adding, some other differences besides WOT gains. With Stage 2, my car idles a few hundred RPMs lower and considerably steadier than stock; and it drives much more smoothly than stock at near idle speeds under 10 mph.
Ordinary driving is also smoother than stock, partly because of a kind of progressive throttle effect (it gets more and more sensitive the harder you press), but also because it really is smoother - it just feels like a better engine. On the downside, despite the famous water pump speeds, my oil temps are running consistently 10 degrees warmer than stock. I haven't noticed any difference in MPG, but it's hard to tell when I'm racing around like a kid with his new toy. Meanwhile, my CAI should arrive in another week or two. |
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05-14-2010, 01:18 PM | #82 | |
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Couldn't have said it better. I don't need the extra power. What I have on this car with the S2 flash is very enjoyable to me in day to day driving, and the comfort of not having to hide anything from the dealer/BMW is a big plus. My previous car laid about 500whp to the ground, if all I was concerned about was hp I never would have sold that car
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05-14-2010, 03:21 PM | #83 |
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Question for Dinan users. I have a CPO 335. If I were to get a Dinan tune and they do not match the CPO warranty. What would happen if I were to have a problem with a turbo, etc. I'm assuming BMW would blame the Dinan tune no matter what and I would be SOL. Correct?
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05-14-2010, 03:33 PM | #85 |
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Yea, it's a sticky situation when it comes to mods and warranty as this has been discussed in depth since the birth of the N54. I think the best advice I've seen on this forum was, if you have any doubts or concerns about your warranty... just don't mod and wait. (Yes, this could be a difficult task seeing as how you're on a forum with a bunch of car crazy enthusiasts.)
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