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08-30-2009, 11:09 PM | #67 | |
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The boost in the dyno graph is intake manifold pressure.
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08-30-2009, 11:26 PM | #69 |
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why is Vishnu so defensive
Like mentioned earlier a 6MT stg. 1 vs stg. 1 simple. or just wait for the Stage 2 vs. Stage 2 its so hard to compare things when its stage 1 vs stage 2 or which map version. I would go with the company that has the most experience with German cars and that is GIAC for 17 years with Porsche, Audi , VW's + all the E46 VF supercharged systems.
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08-31-2009, 12:41 AM | #70 |
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Everything as expected in this vid. As I wrote in the other thread - something was wrong with another Proceede car.
You can't compare different stages of different tunes. Period. Hotrod's car doesn't have any supporting mods, so technically BMS could've called the map "stage 0"
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08-31-2009, 12:51 AM | #71 | |
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So which is it.... does the mods set the stage and the tune is done to the mods, or does the tune set the stage regardless of mods? |
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08-31-2009, 01:22 AM | #72 |
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omg... -_- another thread... either way.. any tunes what you prefer its still fast... very fast...?? do we need to count the 2-3 hp difference holy shit batman.. i'lll post my videoo soon
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08-31-2009, 02:28 AM | #73 | |
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These races are performed with the 7-29 stage 3 map. Shiv, it would be really interesting to be able try the newer, stronger maps with the Rev 2 instead... I will soon participate on this event: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=297106 |
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08-31-2009, 03:55 AM | #74 | |
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08-31-2009, 03:59 AM | #75 |
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Actually Big Tom is fully catless and i am not but dont think matter that much.
Big tom was running UT set to 88%
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08-31-2009, 04:16 AM | #76 |
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Oh, sorry, I thought you were fully catless. Actually Procede stg3 and stg2 differ quite significantly if you compare the dyno curves at the top end. Just as Shiv says, not being fully catless means that catless DPs just push the restriction to the next set of cats. The gas has got colder there so that the restriction is less, but it is a restriction still at those power levels. You are right, its not "much", but you can definitely feel it. The more aggressive tune, the more difference fully catless makes. You don't pass emissions with your second cats anyways, so you could as well move a step forward and go full catless just as Big Tom. That would help especially when you get Giac Stage2+.
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08-31-2009, 04:25 AM | #77 | |
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08-31-2009, 04:38 AM | #78 | |
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Any tuner could rename there stage 3 tune as a stage 1 , and then the stage 1 map would go better... My point is that to say stage 1 vs stage 1 is really more a question of the way the tuner chooses to tune for a particular stage. You can only do a fair comparison of the same stage when the tuners have the same idea of what a stage is. |
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08-31-2009, 04:49 AM | #79 | |
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We couldn't agree more on these principles. Getting to the details though, Enrita's Giac car is not stage3 car in Procede standards since it is not catless |
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It's the precats who makes the difference to the performance. That's it. Last edited by Big Tom; 08-31-2009 at 05:16 AM.. |
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Before the comparisons are done, you guys should all agree on all the aspects of the tunes you'll be comparing and make a list, as I hope we're not looking for just quickness. Of course quickness is important, but as the difference in quickness is not really that great between the 3 tunes, I'd be much more interested in the other qualities of the tunes such as smoothness, driveability, throttle modulation/tip in, lag elimination, etc., etc, i.e. how it feels overall. Unless you drive your car and are racing at WOT all the time (which no one does unless it's a drag car only) it is much more about the way the power is delivered that makes a tune most enjoyable, not "what's the absolute fastest I can go every time I step on the gas" as the ONLY time that aspect of a tune is valuable is at the drag strip or when you feel you need to prove yourself on the street. I want a tune that feels great in everyday driving situations. Gaining a half-second during a race or 20 more HP is much less valuable to me for the car I drive every day than having a powerful and silky smooth car that feels linearly wonderful all the time...
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08-31-2009, 08:58 AM | #87 | |
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People were questioning the validity of my video but the person that ran the Procede was on 80% settings in my video. If this car was on 88% settings then there's nothing that surprising about the different outcomes.
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08-31-2009, 09:12 AM | #88 |
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BigTom car is very well fine tuned and very very fast. I think its one of the fastest Procedes around.
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