E90Post
 


Studio RSR
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Powertrain and Drivetrain Discussions > N54 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications - 335i > BMW e92 335i LSD Options



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      02-06-2022, 03:39 AM   #1
adrian_j
Private
Canada
9
Rep
79
Posts

Drives: 2008 335i sedan
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: Vancouver Canada

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2008 bmw 335i  [0.00]
BMW e92 335i LSD Options

I’m looking to get an LSD for my 2008 6mt e92, I think there are some cheaper temporary options that you can just put into the stock pumpkin? I’m looking for something to right now maybe for a little improvement and then in a couple months from now when I go single turbo (just waiting on parts) a proper lsd to handle the power and handling
Thanks guys! Hope to hear some opinions if anybody has an LSD or upgrade
Appreciate 0
      02-06-2022, 07:17 PM   #2
cruizinmax
Private First Class
United_States
33
Rep
108
Posts

Drives: 99 Civic, 09 335i
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Springfield, MO

iTrader: (0)

"Lincoln locker" I think is what you're looking for. 😆 Beyond that just leave it alone. Let the e-lsd do it's thing.
Appreciate 0
      02-07-2022, 06:57 AM   #3
iqraceworks
Brigadier General
iqraceworks's Avatar
2001
Rep
3,731
Posts

Drives: 2007 335i
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Missouri

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by cruizinmax View Post
"Lincoln locker" I think is what you're looking for. 😆 Beyond that just leave it alone. Let the e-lsd do it's thing.
This! Unless you are going to have your car out on a twisty race track, the factory e-diff does a great job of putting power down to both wheels in a straight line (drag racing). There are some big HP guys running really quick 1/4 times on the stock e-diff.

__________________
2007 335i, BMS DCI, BMS Chargepipe w/Tial BOV, ARM Catless Downpipes, silicone inlets, Bilstein B12 Prokit Suspension, Whiteline subframe bushings, Front/Rear M3 control arms, G-Plus FMIC, Stage 2 LPFP, Custom E40 tune by Justin (V8Bait), xHP stage 3 transmission flash, RB Two Turbos....10.90 @ 128mph
Appreciate 0
      02-07-2022, 11:27 AM   #4
Silent9n54
Captain
Canada
574
Rep
940
Posts

Drives: 2007 E92 335i
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Vancouver, Canada

iTrader: (0)

Racing Diffs, VERY affordable

i have been running one for couple years now, no issues no weird noises.
__________________
2007 E92 335i / FBO + Inlets / E85 Custom Tune by WedgePerformance / 9.68 @ 140 / TPC Stage 2 19T / 2.1s 0-60 mph / 2010 535Xi 6MT - 437M - MHD / Instagram @Silent9n54
Appreciate 0
      02-07-2022, 12:43 PM   #5
Ripx
New Member
0
Rep
5
Posts

Drives: E92 335i
Join Date: Feb 2022
Location: UAE

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silent11N54 View Post
Racing Diffs, VERY affordable

i have been running one for couple years now, no issues no weird noises.
3.6 0-60
nice how much HP ?
Appreciate 0
      02-08-2022, 11:44 AM   #6
Silent9n54
Captain
Canada
574
Rep
940
Posts

Drives: 2007 E92 335i
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Vancouver, Canada

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ripx View Post
3.6 0-60
nice how much HP ?
3.11 0-60

around 460whp, still on stock turbos

__________________
2007 E92 335i / FBO + Inlets / E85 Custom Tune by WedgePerformance / 9.68 @ 140 / TPC Stage 2 19T / 2.1s 0-60 mph / 2010 535Xi 6MT - 437M - MHD / Instagram @Silent9n54
Appreciate 0
      02-08-2022, 09:53 PM   #7
adrian_j
Private
Canada
9
Rep
79
Posts

Drives: 2008 335i sedan
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: Vancouver Canada

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2008 bmw 335i  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Silent11N54 View Post
Racing Diffs, VERY affordable

i have been running one for couple years now, no issues no weird noises.
Quote:
Originally Posted by cruizinmax View Post
"Lincoln locker" I think is what you're looking for. 😆 Beyond that just leave it alone. Let the e-lsd do it's thing.
does the "e-lsd" work with traction off or DCT? can you explain a bit more of what it is? just applies brakes to whichever wheel spins more?
Appreciate 0
      02-08-2022, 09:56 PM   #8
iqraceworks
Brigadier General
iqraceworks's Avatar
2001
Rep
3,731
Posts

Drives: 2007 335i
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Missouri

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by adrian_j View Post
does the "e-lsd" work with traction off or DCT? can you explain a bit more of what it is? just applies brakes to whichever wheel spins more?
The "e-diff" works all the time....but when the traction control is on, when the tires spin...it cuts power to the motor.

Hold the button down for 3 seconds and it will turn the traction control completely off.....just be careful because the car can and will get away from you in a hurry with it off.
Appreciate 0
      02-09-2022, 01:09 AM   #9
adrian_j
Private
Canada
9
Rep
79
Posts

Drives: 2008 335i sedan
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: Vancouver Canada

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2008 bmw 335i  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by iqraceworks View Post
The "e-diff" works all the time....but when the traction control is on, when the tires spin...it cuts power to the motor.

Hold the button down for 3 seconds and it will turn the traction control completely off.....just be careful because the car can and will get away from you in a hurry with it off.
okay lol i know how traction control works, sorry i was asking if the e-diff still works while traction control is completely off or in DCT mode
Appreciate 0
      02-09-2022, 06:08 AM   #10
iqraceworks
Brigadier General
iqraceworks's Avatar
2001
Rep
3,731
Posts

Drives: 2007 335i
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Missouri

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by adrian_j View Post
okay lol i know how traction control works, sorry i was asking if the e-diff still works while traction control is completely off or in DCT mode
Yes... when traction control is 100% off.....the e-diff still puts power down to both tires. It's pretty easy to leave two big equal length lines of rubber on the pavement 😁
Appreciate 0
      02-09-2022, 11:48 AM   #11
Aceway
Captain
United_States
455
Rep
875
Posts

Drives: E82 135i / F25 28i
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (2)

Wavetrac from Whitbread is a great option. Probably second cheapest option behind racingdiffs option. Email him for better price. The ediff works fine in some situations but it'll really hinder your driving experience when you take your car through a twisty road.
Appreciate 1
      02-09-2022, 12:12 PM   #12
whyzee125
Brigadier General
1679
Rep
3,645
Posts

Drives: Dinan stage 2 335i
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Chattanooga Tn

iTrader: (0)

The e-diff does a decent job but keep in mind, it's not truly even an electronic LSD, it's an open diff with an advanced traction control system that somewhat mimics an LSD.

IMO an LSD is very much needed if you're over 420whp or so. Mfactory, Quaife, Wavetrac, Drexler, or M3 diff are the common ones. Racingdiffs I believe is the cheaper option on eBay that some have had good luck with.
Appreciate 0
      02-09-2022, 12:41 PM   #13
iqraceworks
Brigadier General
iqraceworks's Avatar
2001
Rep
3,731
Posts

Drives: 2007 335i
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Missouri

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by whyzee125 View Post
The e-diff does a decent job but keep in mind, it's not truly even an electronic LSD, it's an open diff with an advanced traction control system that somewhat mimics an LSD.

IMO an LSD is very much needed if you're over 420whp or so. Mfactory, Quaife, Wavetrac, Drexler, or M3 diff are the common ones. Racingdiffs I believe is the cheaper option on eBay that some have had good luck with.
In a straight line...it works as well as an LSD. When you can put two equal rubber patches on the road with either a true LSD or the "e-diff" setup......they seem pretty equal to me. Why spend $1,000+....to do the same thing you can do with the e-diff?

Now on twisty roads or the track when you get a lot of weight shifting around....yeah, the real LSD would be much better.
__________________
2007 335i, BMS DCI, BMS Chargepipe w/Tial BOV, ARM Catless Downpipes, silicone inlets, Bilstein B12 Prokit Suspension, Whiteline subframe bushings, Front/Rear M3 control arms, G-Plus FMIC, Stage 2 LPFP, Custom E40 tune by Justin (V8Bait), xHP stage 3 transmission flash, RB Two Turbos....10.90 @ 128mph
Appreciate 0
      02-09-2022, 01:18 PM   #14
whyzee125
Brigadier General
1679
Rep
3,645
Posts

Drives: Dinan stage 2 335i
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Chattanooga Tn

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by iqraceworks View Post
In a straight line...it works as well as an LSD. When you can put two equal rubber patches on the road with either a true LSD or the "e-diff" setup......they seem pretty equal to me. Why spend $1,000+....to do the same thing you can do with the e-diff?

Now on twisty roads or the track when you get a lot of weight shifting around....yeah, the real LSD would be much better.
Any car with a lot of torque will spin both wheels much of the time, but I definitely had a hard time going straight and not wheel hopping especially when I had my N55. LSD is definitely a worthwhile mod even for straight line IMO
Appreciate 0
      02-09-2022, 03:47 PM   #15
cruizinmax
Private First Class
United_States
33
Rep
108
Posts

Drives: 99 Civic, 09 335i
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Springfield, MO

iTrader: (0)

After installing a wavetrac in my car I can tell you, you aren't going to get "more" traction in a straight line. When the tires are at/over the limits of traction the car IS more predictable (after coding out the e-diff) however. My car liked to erratically walk all over the road when it was tire spinning before. Essentially because the car is pulsing the brakes on the side that was spinning more which steers the car. It also feels much more natural accelerating hard out of corners.
Appreciate 0
      02-09-2022, 10:39 PM   #16
iqraceworks
Brigadier General
iqraceworks's Avatar
2001
Rep
3,731
Posts

Drives: 2007 335i
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Missouri

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by whyzee125 View Post
Any car with a lot of torque will spin both wheels much of the time, but I definitely had a hard time going straight and not wheel hopping especially when I had my N55. LSD is definitely a worthwhile mod even for straight line IMO
Not if they have an open diff.......they will spin one tire and that's it.
Appreciate 1
      08-12-2022, 08:59 PM   #17
feuer
Major General
feuer's Avatar
United_States
4276
Rep
9,206
Posts

Drives: wife crazy!
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Chicago, IL

iTrader: (5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by iqraceworks View Post
Not if they have an open diff.......they will spin one tire and that's it.
How do you explain vehicle with open diff spinning only one wheel in snow and leaving two tires burn out marks?
Appreciate 0
      08-13-2022, 02:49 PM   #18
iqraceworks
Brigadier General
iqraceworks's Avatar
2001
Rep
3,731
Posts

Drives: 2007 335i
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Missouri

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by feuer View Post
How do you explain vehicle with open diff spinning only one wheel in snow and leaving two tires burn out marks?
I can't.... because that doesn't happen. If it's a true open diff with no "e-diff" feature....it will only spin one tire.....no matter if it's in snow, rain, or dry pavement.
Appreciate 0
      08-14-2022, 11:16 AM   #19
feuer
Major General
feuer's Avatar
United_States
4276
Rep
9,206
Posts

Drives: wife crazy!
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Chicago, IL

iTrader: (5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by iqraceworks View Post
I can't.... because that doesn't happen. If it's a true open diff with no "e-diff" feature....it will only spin one tire.....no matter if it's in snow, rain, or dry pavement.
Oh I does happen. E-diff or not it does happen. Additionally since you are talking about E-diff these cars came with two different settings for it. On some early models E-diff can be completely off. Not constantly on as you said previously. Basically spin only one tire. This is probably when you was too young to know about E-diff and 335i but mine was spinning only one wheel on snow/Ice when I got it in 2008. Also was living 2 tire mark on dry. Very easy to do from a dig in MT 335i but unlikely event in your AT 335i. Anyhow, let’s not steer away from my original question to you: How do you explain vehicle with open diff spinning only one wheel in snow and leaving two tires burn out marks?
Appreciate 0
      08-14-2022, 07:26 PM   #20
iqraceworks
Brigadier General
iqraceworks's Avatar
2001
Rep
3,731
Posts

Drives: 2007 335i
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Missouri

iTrader: (0)

Read my last reply....if you don't understand it, repeat.
Appreciate 0
      08-15-2022, 06:24 AM   #21
NoGuru
Major
NoGuru's Avatar
772
Rep
1,418
Posts

Drives: 335is
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: MI

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2021 Chevy Silverad ...  [0.00]
2002 Jeep Cherokee  [0.00]
2014 CTS  [0.00]
2011 335is  [0.00]
Anyone who races straight line or twisty' s will tell you an LSD is better then E-diff.
Anyone!
__________________
2011 335is DCT BQ Tuning / BMS CAI / VRSF kittyless DP's / Synapse BOV and charge pipe / 7" VRSF Race FMIC / Walbro 535 and 450 on BMP4 / E90 tune / Diff Brace / PR Coils / Relocation Inlets / DAW Stage3+ Turbos / MMP port injection / xHP Stage 3 / FPR and -6 fuel lines
Appreciate 1
Aceway454.50
      08-15-2022, 10:18 PM   #22
iqraceworks
Brigadier General
iqraceworks's Avatar
2001
Rep
3,731
Posts

Drives: 2007 335i
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Missouri

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by feuer View Post
Ok, sorry, didn’t want to interrupt your YouTube certification on N54 oil change. When you don’t with that get one on differentials too.
Can you please translate that into English?
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:42 AM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST