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      04-23-2010, 05:18 PM   #705
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What is the solution for the rest of the world?
At least in Europe there are certain private individuals with custom programs that can load the FSC into the CIC, regardless if it used or new. You can find some in this thread or by simply doing a search for CIC installations/retrofits in the 'net.

You are not going to find any exact details about how they do it as they charge for this service, though.
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Retrofit/swap status:

Received this morning what it seems to be the real FSC files for Nav enable and 2010.1 Map update for my CIC; at least the FSC for the 2010.1 USA maps file information matches the P/N in the USA ETKA, so that looks good. The previous FSC received were for my CCC, sent by mistake; its file information contained a CCC P/N. The CIC FSC file information does not have any CCC P/N anywhere, so that's also looks good.

Will try loading these files some time next week to see if they actually work.

I cannot find the P/N for the Voice Control FSC to obtain those files, so if somebody knows please send PM with details.

Congrats and good luck!
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Navigation = activated
Maps = activated (2009.1 preloaded in new CIC, will load 2010.1 next week)

Details tomorrow.
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Navigation = activated
Maps = activated (2009.1 preloaded in new CIC, will load 2010.1 next week)

Details tomorrow.
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Navigation = activated
Maps = activated (2009.1 preloaded in new CIC, will load 2010.1 next week)

Details tomorrow.
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      04-24-2010, 06:02 PM   #710
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Nice work Technic!

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Hi Technic, I'm new here from HK, have read this thread from page 1, really inspired by you guys' great effort !

I have a MY2006 E90 non-idrive, no GPS, no bluetooth antenna pre-assembled (pretty basic). Is it possible to retrofit it with the last CIC system? If the coding won't be impssible

Another question is can someone clarify the difference of the "MAP" and "NAV" bottom on the iDrive conttroller?




Left is MY2010 E90 on China market, the right one appears on eBay, not sure the year, assume it 2008, actually all I can found on eBay are all equiped with "NAV", is it jsut because of region or year?

Thanks and best regards

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      04-24-2010, 11:26 PM   #712
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Maybe it's been addressed before but I found something very weird in one of the 5 series loaners I was given.
It had the old idrive interface/scree/graphics/ and no full screen map display... hell it even started out with the screen where you see the circle in the middle and you can select 4 options by moving the controller left/ right/ up/ down, BUT it had the new controlled that clicks and has the navi button, radio, back, options, etc. just like the 2009 ones do.

How do you explain this one?
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Maybe it's been addressed before but I found something very weird in one of the 5 series loaners I was given.
It had the old idrive interface/scree/graphics/ and no full screen map display... hell it even started out with the screen where you see the circle in the middle and you can select 4 options by moving the controller left/ right/ up/ down, BUT it had the new controlled that clicks and has the navi button, radio, back, options, etc. just like the 2009 ones do.

How do you explain this one?
I think that for MY2009 or 2010 in the 5er they started using the new controller on the old interface. The redesigned 5er for MY2011 has the new iDrive and goes on sale in the US this summer.

It's documented earlier in this thread and in a few others that you can swap the new controller for the old one without any problems. Plug and play, makes for a few extra buttons but you have to take it out if they ever need to update the software on your car.
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Navigation = activated
Maps = activated (2009.1 preloaded in new CIC, will load 2010.1 next week)

Details tomorrow.
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I think that for MY2009 or 2010 in the 5er they started using the new controller on the old interface. The redesigned 5er for MY2011 has the new iDrive and goes on sale in the US this summer.

It's documented earlier in this thread and in a few others that you can swap the new controller for the old one without any problems. Plug and play, makes for a few extra buttons but you have to take it out if they ever need to update the software on your car.
It wasn't responsive though like it is in my 2009/20010.

When I was in an options menu in the navi screen and I would press navi to go back to the map (which is what it would do in the new gen idrive), nothing would happen.
The same with some other buttons....
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Navigation = activated
Maps = activated (2009.1 preloaded in new CIC, will load 2010.1 next week)

Details tomorrow.
it is tomorrow already....details please...
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      04-25-2010, 03:30 PM   #718
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Can't wait to hear the details myself.
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Before...



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Notes:

- Voice Control is not yet activated as the P/N of its FSC is not known yet. The import method is the same.
- Convenience Plan will not show the new screens (BMW Search, Fuel Prices etc.) with this swap. The TCU needs to be coded for 2009 specs. Google Maps "send to car" feature does not work for the same reason, either. However, Assist can send you the address to your iDrive the same exact way as Google Maps. Working on a TCU coding solution.

The activation was done with genuine OEM FSC codes generated with my VIN; the import of the codes into the CIC was made by a remote connection thru the Internet. This method applies to either used or new CIC, so this can be way cheaper than what I paid. Coding of the CIC -to match VIN options- can be also performed with this method.

I spent some $3300 in this retrofit, but in reality ~$1200 out of that was totally unnecessary after the fact. So done right, with a combo of used/new parts it can be done in full for $2100 -$2500 depending on the price of the used parts

Full details can be answered on a case by case basis by PM; contact forum member: http://www.e90post.com/forums/member.php?u=59568

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Notes:

- Voice Control is not yet activated as the P/N of its FSC is not known yet. The import method is the same.
- Convenience Plan will not show the new screens (BMW Search, Fuel Prices etc.) with this swap. The TCU needs to be coded for 2009 specs. Google Maps "send to car" feature does not work for the same reason, either. However, Assist can send you the address to your iDrive the same exact way as Google Maps. Working on a TCU coding solution.

The activation was done with genuine OEM FSC codes generated with my VIN; the import of the codes into the CIC was made by a remote connection thru the Internet. This method applies to either used or new CIC, so this can be way cheaper than what I paid. Coding of the CIC -to match VIN options- can be also performed with this method.

I spent some $3300 in this retrofit, but in reality ~$1200 out of that was totally unnecessary after the fact. So done right, with a combo of used/new parts it can be done in full for $2100 -$2500 depending on the price of the used parts

Full details can be answered on a case by case basis by PM; contact forum member: http://www.e90post.com/forums/member.php?u=59568


omg omg omg lol this is great news good job mate
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Very cool! Congratulations, and good work - thanks for sticking with it and giving us all hope. Off to do it myself now, too!

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Congratulations! Super job.
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      04-25-2010, 05:23 PM   #723
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BTW, what have you guys been searching for to find the CIC's on ebay? I still haven't been able to find one.
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BTW, what have you guys been searching for to find the CIC's on ebay? I still haven't been able to find one.
me either ive been looking for a month now and haven't found any there a very elusive animal lol

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well here's one but i think its a CCC
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OEM-B...fAudioQ5fVideo
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This is awesome! I can't wait to see more success stories!
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me either ive been looking for a month now and haven't found any there a very elusive animal lol

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well here's one but i think its a CCC
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OEM-B...fAudioQ5fVideo
Yeah, that is a CCC, first gen too.
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