~~~~~~SETRAB Oil Cooler Mod~~~~~~

Former_Boosted_IS · 08-07-2012, 05:38 PM

Guys, keep in mind the stock thermostat doesn't open until like 220 - 230F so your aux oil cooler cannot be doing a thing if your oil temps are 205F. This is not my opinion, but a fact.

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 08-07-2012, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

Guys, keep in mind the stock thermostat doesn't open until like 220 - 230F so your aux oil cooler cannot be doing a thing if your oil temps are 205F. This is not my opinion, but a fact.

Very true. I still dont like how high the thermostat is.

Here is my z06 after an hour of driving in 90 degree heat.

Then again it's not running oil through turbo's and it has a dry sump with over 10 quarts of oil.

JMARS · 08-07-2012, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

Guys, keep in mind the stock thermostat doesn't open until like 220 - 230F so your aux oil cooler cannot be doing a thing if your oil temps are 205F. This is not my opinion, but a fact.

Woops(kinda of a big woops lol) sorry forgot to mention thats with a T-Stat delete...

Former_Boosted_IS · 08-07-2012, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JMARS

Woops(kinda of a big woops lol) sorry forgot to mention thats with a T-Stat delete...

LOL, that is a big difference.

Pr335bob · 05-10-2014, 03:19 PM

didi taking all the extra plastic have any affect on allanything fitting? like the hood or radiator? Where did you connect the oil cooler to so it wouldn't move? did u drill hose in the metal bumper part?

JoeyH335i · 07-15-2015, 04:01 PM

hmmmm. nice!

BeastMode335i · 07-16-2015, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

Then again it's not running oil through turbo's and it has a dry sump with over 10 quarts of oil.

wish I could run 10qts in the 335

jwzimm · 07-16-2015, 12:05 PM

Very old thread! In case anyone hasn't seen it, there is a low temp thermostat option that will allow proper warmup but keep your oil temps quite a bit lower: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1138235

trixdout · 07-18-2015, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JMARS

Woops(kinda of a big woops lol) sorry forgot to mention thats with a T-Stat delete...

By delete, you mean remove the spring and piece that is in there with the spring?

JMARS · 07-28-2015, 09:47 PM

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By delete, you mean remove the spring and piece that is in there with the spring?

yes

Billit335 · 07-29-2015, 12:28 AM

Sweet

rif75 · 07-29-2015, 04:55 PM

Hi Jmars, can you tell what was the benefice on track? I'm looking for a good solution for the track days and the ER kit are very expensive

davidwarren · 07-29-2015, 06:38 PM

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Hi Jmars, can you tell what was the benefice on track? I'm looking for a good solution for the track days and the ER kit are very expensive

I'm working on an oil cooler based on jmars ground work. I will have pics either this weekend or next.

davidwarren · 08-02-2015, 08:20 AM

Photos of setup-

View post on imgur.com

The main difference is I used a mishimoto banjo fitting (m20x1.5 to -10AN) on top of the oil thermostat rather than drilling out and welding the stock plugs. Used a setrab 625 and line and fittings from ANfittingsdirect.com. All in all, about $360.

Odan.be · 08-02-2015, 08:47 AM

I think you better run the oilcoolers in series , rather then the paraallel setup shown here.
Running parallel might lower your oil pressure...
Also i would use a Thermostat delete plate and get an aftermarket thermostat for the desired oil temperature.
that way the car still warms up nicely, rather then taking ages to warm.

just my 2 cents

davidwarren · 08-02-2015, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Odan.be

I think you better run the oilcoolers in series , rather then the paraallel setup shown here.
Running parallel might lower your oil pressure...
Also i would use a Thermostat delete plate and get an aftermarket thermostat for the desired oil temperature.
that way the car still warms up nicely, rather then taking ages to warm.

just my 2 cents

As long as there are not air pockets, I don't believe there should be a significant pressure drop either way since it is a closed system. I say this ignoring the pressure variations due to the changes in temperature, and just comparing series vs parallel coolers. What will change is the flow rate through the lines and coolers because of the relationship of pressure, volume, and flow rate. In parallel, the oil will flow much slower through both coolers than if they were in series because there will be a larger volume. Which will actually allow the coolers to work better because the oil will be inside the coolers for a longer period. Once the oil returns to the thermostat, it will return to a higher flow rate because of the smaller volume available to it. But I don't believe the pressure drop should be significant.

Also, I have the low temp thermostat from AD Engineering.

335NJ · 08-02-2015, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MrRager

doesnt matter since cars that dont have oem oil coolers just have plugs right there that you can screw out.

Cars without an OEM oil cooler need a whole new housing, there's not just plugs in them to be removed.

Edit: hopefully you figured this out by now. It's been 3 years and I just realized how old this thread is.

spain4065 · 08-06-2015, 11:21 AM

This is a great mod, especially for those that live in a year-round hot climate.

What about just upgrading the stock one with a better one?

gingerbreadman · 08-06-2015, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by davidwarren

As long as there are not air pockets, I don't believe there should be a significant pressure drop either way since it is a closed system. I say this ignoring the pressure variations due to the changes in temperature, and just comparing series vs parallel coolers. What will change is the flow rate through the lines and coolers because of the relationship of pressure, volume, and flow rate. In parallel, the oil will flow much slower through both coolers than if they were in series because there will be a larger volume. Which will actually allow the coolers to work better because the oil will be inside the coolers for a longer period. Once the oil returns to the thermostat, it will return to a higher flow rate because of the smaller volume available to it. But I don't believe the pressure drop should be significant.

Also, I have the low temp thermostat from AD Engineering.

Dude, I love your take on this especially using the Mishimoto banjo fittings. I was planning on doing this but I didn't feel like drilling and welding into the housing. This is definitely my next mod...thanks for the info. I do however worry about pressure drop. I remember sneakydeeky, not sure if he's still a member here but he ran dual ER oil coolers. i can't remember the exact series of events but his engine was starved of oil due to pressure drop(our oil pans don't have baffles so the oil pools to one side when you turn, brake hard, accelerate). Anyways...he blew his engine. Ever since that occurrence I've been wary of running dual oil coolers but can someone pls explain this? I'm hoping i'm misinformed so i can install this. Thank you

spain4065 · 08-07-2015, 10:12 PM

Doesn't the 1m run dual oil coolers? Seems to be fine in that car.

LoneWolfPistol · 07-13-2018, 09:18 AM

How did you install the hoses onto the top of the oem oil cooler I know you can take the two hex screws out but is there a simple adaptor you can screw into the removed hex screws that will fit the aftermarket hoses?

feuer · 07-13-2018, 10:04 AM

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How did you install the hoses onto the top of the oem oil cooler I know you can take the two hex screws out but is there a simple adaptor you can screw into the removed hex screws that will fit the aftermarket hoses?

Any banjo bolt m18x1.5 would work there. Those above are from Mishitomo. I have friends selling a used setup. He sold his car. Talk to him here: http://www.n54tech.com/forums/member.php?u=16172

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Former_Boosted_IS Major General 307 Rep 5,175 Posts Drives: 4 Wheels Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Planet Earth! iTrader: (15)	Guys, keep in mind the stock thermostat doesn't open until like 220 - 230F so your aux oil cooler cannot be doing a thing if your oil temps are 205F. This is not my opinion, but a fact. __________________ 654 RWHP ... ! Vishnu/FFTEC Single Turbo 335
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Pr335bob Captain 38 Rep 753 Posts Drives: Black on black e92 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Puerto Rico USA iTrader: (0)	didi taking all the extra plastic have any affect on allanything fitting? like the hood or radiator? Where did you connect the oil cooler to so it wouldn't move? did u drill hose in the metal bumper part?
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jwzimm Colonel 687 Rep 2,770 Posts Drives: '16 M3 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Renton, WA iTrader: (17)	Very old thread! In case anyone hasn't seen it, there is a low temp thermostat option that will allow proper warmup but keep your oil temps quite a bit lower: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1138235 __________________ 2008 Honda S2000 - Current 2016 F80 M3 - SOLD!! 2011 e92 X-Drive Coupe - SOLD!!
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rif75 Lieutenant 64 Rep 412 Posts Drives: BMW M4 LCI ZCP and BMW M5 f10 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Paris iTrader: (0)	Hi Jmars, can you tell what was the benefice on track? I'm looking for a good solution for the track days and the ER kit are very expensive __________________ BMW M5 ZCP and M4 ZCP. BMW 540i G30 stage 2 with KW street confort, Wagner DP, Remus catback, M sport brakes 395mm front and 385mm rear. MHD tune.
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davidwarren Captain 187 Rep 670 Posts Drives: 328,325, 325, 335, X5, 640 GC Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Louisville, ky iTrader: (0)	Photos of setup- View post on imgur.com The main difference is I used a mishimoto banjo fitting (m20x1.5 to -10AN) on top of the oil thermostat rather than drilling out and welding the stock plugs. Used a setrab 625 and line and fittings from ANfittingsdirect.com. All in all, about $360. __________________ 2010 335i e90 Le Mans Blue/Chestnut Brown \| M-Sport \| 6MT Last edited by davidwarren; 08-02-2015 at 08:42 AM..
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Odan.be Private First Class 26 Rep 84 Posts Drives: Bmw E91 3351 Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Belgium iTrader: (0)	I think you better run the oilcoolers in series , rather then the paraallel setup shown here. Running parallel might lower your oil pressure... Also i would use a Thermostat delete plate and get an aftermarket thermostat for the desired oil temperature. that way the car still warms up nicely, rather then taking ages to warm. just my 2 cents
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spain4065 First Lieutenant 18 Rep 303 Posts Drives: EM1 and 08 135i Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: DC/MD iTrader: (1)	This is a great mod, especially for those that live in a year-round hot climate. What about just upgrading the stock one with a better one?
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LoneWolfPistol Private First Class 9 Rep 163 Posts Drives: Decent Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	How did you install the hoses onto the top of the oem oil cooler I know you can take the two hex screws out but is there a simple adaptor you can screw into the removed hex screws that will fit the aftermarket hoses?
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