[Randall]

Hello,

I have finally upgraded my hi-fi amp to MATCH UP8 BMW, and what HUGE improvement it is !! Also everything is plug & play 100%.

Now I'm thinking about change speakers and have a question, here in Europe I can buy factory Logic7/HK speakers and subs for very nice price (about 30% cost of aftermarket setups). Do You guys think it is worth it? Maybe someone has done it yet? Or go 100% for aftermarket?

Some pics of my garage work:











and the girl:

[azndevil]

just go for decent aftermarket speakers...top hifi/hk speakers are garbage

[ctuna]

Looks like it got wet around the amp have you cleaned your drains ?
Good amp choice.

[Randall]

Yes everything is cleaned, it was wet because of my pressure washing from the bottom (wanted to clean salt from the road). Now it’s dry and clean.

Can You tell something about my question (L7 speakers vs aftermarket)?

[vester86]

For the price, L7 can’t be beaten 2nd hand, especially matched with the Up8. But aftermarket gets you even better quality at a higher budget…

I went with 2nd hand individual audio speakers.

[Randall]

That’s interesting. Are You using individual subs too? Your amp is Match too?

[vester86]

No IA subs (they weren’t available at that time 2nd hand), i have an UP7 amp.

[Randall]

It’s very interesting info, thank You! I think I will take the same way. Have You change something in amp settings? I’m using audiotec fischer preset for BMW Touring.

[vester86]

Originally Posted by Randall

It’s very interesting info, thank You! I think I will take the same way. Have You change something in amp settings? I’m using audiotec fischer preset for BMW Touring.

Oh yes, a lot. I tune (large scale) audio systems for a living so i know a thing or 2 about tuning… (for me/my taste, the AF preset setting was shit)

In essence i start from scratch, time align all speakers to the drivers seat, set volume levels accordingly and after that i start with EQing the system.
Tuning the subs (for me) is the most dificult because the perception changes when you are driving vs stationairy. Also sunroof open vs closed makes a difference. But i have a good “all season” setting now.

[Randall]

Is it possible to get Your preset file?

[vester86]

that won’t work unless you have the exact same speaker setup (and taste) but i can give you the base-file without EQ
send me a private message

[Captain Buumer]

Originally Posted by vester86

that won’t work unless you have the exact same speaker setup (and taste) but i can give you the base-file without EQ
send me a private message

I'm curious did you also have a problem with 80Hz...100Hz range from underseat speakers?

When i leave only underseat 8" playing it feels like they don't contribute that much into the overall sound. 100w rms might not be enough for jehnert 8"?

[vester86]

Originally Posted by Captain Buumer

I'm curious did you also have a problem with 80Hz...100Hz range from underseat speakers?

When i leave only underseat 8" playing it feels like they don't contribute that much into the overall sound. 100w rms might not be enough for jehnert 8"?

not really to be honest. i had to let them play even higher with the HiFi speaker setup because the hifi midrange didnt play so low.

[ctuna]

I have Jehnert xe 200's and morel dotechs running off a JL600/6 .
I put this in years ago I would get and amp/dsp now that they finally
have decent output amps . Audio tech fisher Match seem like the way
to go there DSP is well supported and seems to be better than the
competition.
The Jehnerts are really exquisite at detail it's all I need . Warm with
ridiculous detail. Morels are good to . I can turn it way up with no
distortion .
I must say the lack of a true midrange 5 inch speaker is a downside.

Stock stereo in my Model Y LR stereo is better than this aftermarket
setup as far as separation and detail.
They saw fit to put a 5 inch in the front doors.

[Onizukachan]

Originally Posted by vester86

not really to be honest. i had to let them play even higher with the HiFi speaker setup because the hifi midrange didnt play so low.

That’s a big difference with the f30 hi fi speakers then, I had those playing down to 80 though the roll off is significant below that, and had the underseat subs overlapped and eq’d down to compensate and blend, but provide “supporting” volume. It also helped with smearing in that range as your ears told you it was the doors not underseats and then I could ta’d.

Edit autocorrect strikes again, fixed back what it fixed.

[Peter Morrin]

I have heard on other forums that the underseat location is problematic over 150 Hz. Roll off below 60Hz requires a rear sub for the bass-heads. Is this consistent with others experience?