[shockin330i]

Originally Posted by Neutrino45

BHP doesn't equal speed.

Nope but having 500hp+ makes the car really fast. especially when they have the torque to back it up.

[idrift4wd]

mustang are awesome cars, with the right driver the mustang can put up very close numbers to the M3. and cost 30k less... and the GT not the GT500.

It is the most bang for your buck and most defiantly impressive.

+ at the track, you can see fast cars but still run 13-14-15. doesnt mean they really run that time.

[GAINZ]

Eh, gotta give it to the Mustang for really taking a stab at it. It pretty much matches the m3 in performance. Not bad for 4 year old technology though in the M3. Next year, the 5.0 will not compare to the F30; the Boss 302 might though. That will be the next comparison.

/popcorn in a year

[lightning20]

is it just me or do those times seem slow for each car being modded how high was the elevation?

[shockin330i]

Originally Posted by Ncastellano22

Eh, gotta give it to the Mustang for really taking a stab at it. It pretty much matches the m3 in performance. Not bad for 4 year old technology though in the M3. Next year, the 5.0 will not compare to the F30; the Boss 302 might though. That will be the next comparison.

/popcorn in a year

Sad part is that the 5.0 isn't even the top of the line up.

[GAINZ]

Originally Posted by shockin330i

Sad part is that the 5.0 isn't even the top of the line up.

This is true, I think the M3 will be on par if not better than the Boss 302. Considering it will be turbocharged: a tune, intake, and free-flowing exhaust will really make it on par with the Shelby; if not better.

[shockin330i]

Originally Posted by Ncastellano22

This is true, I think the M3 will be on par if not better than the Boss 302. Considering it will be turbocharged: a tune, intake, and free-flowing exhaust will really make it on par with the Shelby; if not better.

I agree but its just so much easier to tune a mustang. Hell ford has a supercharger that will put down over 550hp and let's you keep your warranty.

[GAINZ]

Originally Posted by shockin330i

I agree but its just so much easier to tune a mustang. Hell ford has a supercharger that will put down over 550hp and let's you keep your warranty.

/win

[qtrlifecrisis]

Originally Posted by shockin330i

I agree but its just so much easier to tune a mustang. Hell ford has a supercharger that will put down over 550hp and let's you keep your warranty.

i don't know of any car that you can pick up nearly 100 whp/tq with just a tune, yet still retain stock characteristics like a 335i.

i say that after owning and modding 8 f-bodys(camaros/firebird). that includes a 10 seconds daily driver i built.

[shockin330i]

Originally Posted by SloMaroZ

i don't know of any car that you can pick up nearly 100 whp/tq with just a tune, yet still retain stock characteristics like a 335i.

i say that after owning and modding 8 f-bodys(camaros/firebird). that includes a 10 seconds daily driver i built.

Define stock characteristics...

Anywho,1500 and a 5.0 is running low 11s. I don't know of any 335s that can do that for under 1500.

[ODUB]

Originally Posted by SloMaroZ

i don't know of any car that you can pick up nearly 100 whp/tq with just a tune, yet still retain stock characteristics like a 335i.i say that after owning and modding 8 f-bodys(camaros/firebird). that includes a 10 seconds daily driver i built.

it's called a Lancer Evolution

[kdiggz]

Originally Posted by ODUB

it's called a Lancer Evolution

also gt-r, cts-v, s4, sti/wrx...lots come to mind

[kdiggz]

Originally Posted by shockin330i

Anywho,1500 and a 5.0 is running low 11s. I don't know of any 335s that can do that for under 1500.

what mods? i'm not up on the 5.0's but for a n/a car to gain that much from 1500 in mods is crazy unless you are talking about using nitrous and drag slicks which is cheating imo. you don't run that daily on the street

[TXe92]

Originally Posted by Brey335i

Both of those times are pretty slow imo.

13 for the Mustang? And 12.8 for the M3?

And both are modded...

I'm glad someone said it.. that stang should have atleast run a 12,7 or 12,8 with those mods and an avg driver.. so unless it was 110 degrees.. he cant drive worth a shit...

[shockin330i]

Originally Posted by kdiggz

what mods? i'm not up on the 5.0's but for a n/a car to gain that much from 1500 in mods is crazy unless you are talking about using nitrous and drag slicks which is cheating imo. you don't run that daily on the street

There was an article I read on Mustangs and other fast fords. The guy has a x pipe, CAI and 3.73 gears. Guy was running low 12s. Throw a tune on that sucker and you're running 11s

JLT CAI + Off Road X-pipe + BBR Tune = Easy 11 second Combo

http://www.streetfire.net/video/2011...tCommentAnchor



11.72@114 with a JLT CAI, Off Road X-pipe and a BBR Xtreme 93 Tune

[Shahaed]

Who was really excepting the Mustang to win? The M3 has a 4.0 V8 but puts out 2 more HP than a 5.0 Mustang. German engineering. Then the M3 is lighter, and has a better gearbox.

[shockin330i]

Originally Posted by Shahaed

Who was really excepting the Mustang to win? The M3 has a 4.0 V8 but puts out 2 more HP than a 5.0 Mustang. German engineering. Then the M3 is lighter, and has a better gearbox.

lol, is that really your argument?
Those are engine hp claims. There are a lot of other variables that take place as well. TQ, hp curve, transmission, wheels, driver, weight etc.....

[Shahaed]

Originally Posted by shockin330i

lol, is that really your argument?
Those are engine hp claims. There are a lot of other variables that take place as well. TQ, hp curve, transmission, wheels, driver, weight etc.....

I know. But the M3 is lighter, and has a better transmission. You can get good slick tires with a lot of grip. And if the M3 had launch control and DCT. A monkey could do a drag race. In a race that involves turns, well, all BMW owners can tell you what would happen.

[shockin330i]

Originally Posted by Shahaed

I know. But the M3 is lighter, and has a better transmission. You can get good slick tires with a lot of grip. And if the M3 had launch control and DCT. A monkey could do a drag race. In a race that involves turns, well, all BMW owners can tell you what would happen.

lol, you really don't know what you are talking about do you? The m3 and the 5.0 are less than 50lbs apart in weight. Drag racing isn't as easy as you think especially if you are driving a MT.

Oh and in case you haven't heard, the new 5.0 is neck and neck with the current m3 around the track. The new boss 5.0 would take the m3 all things being equal...

Then again, I can ask most bmw owners and most of them wouldn't know how to run their car when it involves turns, hell most of them have probably never even been on a road course....

[kdiggz]

off topic but i see a lot of guys trading in their tuned 335's for m3's. is the m3 really that much better? it's going to be substantially slower on the street than a tuned 335, no? unless you bring it to a road course you probably won't see any performance improvements. maybe i just haven't driven one so i don't know. i don't get that whole "an m is a m" statement. who cares. a nice car is a nice car, i'm not into any brand labels

[Shahaed]

Originally Posted by shockin330i

lol, you really don't know what you are talking about do you? The m3 and the 5.0 are less than 50lbs apart in weight. Drag racing isn't as easy as you think especially if you are driving a MT.

Oh and in case you haven't heard, the new 5.0 is neck and neck with the current m3 around the track. The new boss 5.0 would take the m3 all things being equal...

Then again, I can ask most bmw owners and most of them wouldn't know how to run their car when it involves turns, hell most of them have probably never even been on a road course....

Actually I had no idea about their weight. I just assumed it was lighter. But same weight and all, I was talking about DCT. I never mentioned a manual. A manual would involve the driver a lot more than the car.