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My Track Comparison: 2009 BMW 335i coupe vs. 2010 Audi S4
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11-16-2009, 01:11 PM | #1 | |
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My Track Comparison: 2009 BMW 335i coupe vs. 2010 Audi S4
I posted this over at Audizine. I just want to share my experience this past Saturday at the track with both my cars.
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11-16-2009, 02:59 PM | #3 |
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Interesting....Audi stock brakes usually arent trackable in my experience..so I was expecting a braking problem..especially at Cal Speedway. Thanks for the feedback.
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11-16-2009, 09:29 PM | #5 |
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They certainly don't help.
I'm gonna go ahead and say "LSD's" are to blame lol... The Audi looks like a fun car. |
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11-17-2009, 06:37 PM | #6 |
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Hopefully this will promp BMW to offer an LSD (or at least an eLSD), better brakes and better tires.
Are the Dunlaps runflats?
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Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
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11-17-2009, 06:41 PM | #7 |
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11-17-2009, 07:06 PM | #8 |
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and this, your right.
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11-17-2009, 07:11 PM | #9 |
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I am so pissed with BMW!
LSDless, Camberless, Runflats, CDV, Inadequate IC & OC, Sport Suspension.
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11-17-2009, 07:38 PM | #10 |
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I'm still in awe that the 335i is the new S4 marketing target. I've always considered S4 an M3 peer - at least on the street with slight performance advantage going to the M. Why have the standards been lowered?
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11-17-2009, 07:41 PM | #11 |
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To be completely honest, the PS2s are a better tire than Dunlop Sport MAXXXes, run-flats or not. Likely the culprit, is just simply the fact that the S4 is a BETTER car and the lack of LSD.
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11-17-2009, 08:08 PM | #12 |
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I don't know as I don't have prior experience on either tire. Hopefully, some day I can have identical tires for another comparison. So far, Yokohama Neova AD08 offers all 3 sizes (225/40/18 and 255/35/18 for the 335i, 255/35/19 for the S4).
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11-17-2009, 08:19 PM | #13 |
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Because the M standards have gone way up.. 410hp, and north of $60k. The 335i now has over 300hp and approaches what the last M3 had in the power department and performance.
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11-19-2009, 12:11 PM | #14 |
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They put the eLSD on the e90 series in March 2008. It actually works pretty well on my car. I would rather have something tighter like a good Torsen unit, but I can't complain (much) about this system.
someday BMW will put the torque vectoring on other cars besides the X6M
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11-20-2009, 10:56 AM | #17 |
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Ever since the new Audi S4 came out, and many comparisons performed by magazine giving an edge on the Audi S4 over the BMW 335i, it really shows how immature some of the forum members are.
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11-25-2009, 03:37 PM | #19 |
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thanks for the comparison.
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11-25-2009, 05:16 PM | #20 |
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I don't think they're making that anymore, not for the b8 at least. Makes me think that they should be making the S4 compete with the M3, although there is a significant price difference...
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12-01-2009, 04:28 AM | #21 |
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Right. No more RS4. The RS4 has been replaced by the RS6 (~580HP/480tq). No real M3 equivalent in the Audi line up.
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12-01-2009, 12:03 PM | #22 |
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Vincent -- those are really quick times for bone-stock cars, well done.
I guess Audi has finally figured out that the S/RS buyers don't want horribly-understeering cars |
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