Recommendations for brake pads on track days (from experience only!)

leftcoastman · 03-26-2008, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by S4to335

stock brakes are not sufficient for me. I had fade and overheating and overflow of the brake fluid from the reservoir due to expansion / heat. I also had a squishy pedal.

Did that happen even with RBF600?

I get overflow out the wazoo with ATE blue.

S4to335 · 03-26-2008, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by leftcoastman

Did that happen even with RBF600?

I get overflow out the wazoo with ATE blue.

NO..stock event...totally stock car...back in April 2007..OEM fluid.

HRC · 03-26-2008, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by westwest888

Gentlemen -

Based on your (hopefully) wise recommendations, I've ordered and received RBF600 fluid and the Performance-Z front and rear pads. I'll post some driving impressions tomorrow. And I'll write a real review when I go to the track April 18.

I stand by my recommedation!

Danny

shimshimhada · 03-26-2008, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by M3to335

Weird, I didnt know there was a brake pad "shape code".

Just for the Z-rated. When I went to autozone, I had to order them for a E36 M3, because they didn't carry my car, but had the same shape pads.

Part number/pad shape, I think it's the same thing.

shimshimhada · 03-26-2008, 11:52 PM

I get overflow...but I think it might be from the fluid joshling around in there. Or maybe I really do need to upgrade to RBF600...

HP Autosport · 03-27-2008, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by leftcoastman

All suspension and body work was stock.

And yes, I heel and toe.

I believe the problem is screwed up brake biasing because of the major differential in pad coefficient of friction.

Very possible.

O-cha · 04-03-2008, 12:58 PM

Crap, I need to get pads ASAP was on a waiting list for a track event next weekend and they said I was up.

Anyone know a good place to get the performance friction pads? What's the shape code on those?

O-cha · 04-03-2008, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by westwest888

Bimmerworld.com sells them. They have the pad chart on their site. The 335i has different sized brakes than my car, but they should have the pads regardless.

335i front rotors reportedly use a different pad on the inside of the rotor than on the outside. That is to say they are asymmetric. So I hear pad selection is limited.

Yea I didn't realize you had a 325, they don't list the 335.

S4to335 · 04-03-2008, 03:15 PM

Good luck getting them quickly.

O-cha · 04-03-2008, 04:49 PM

Crap well since no one knows the shape code for the performance friction pads does anyone know where to get a good set for the front and rear of another performance pad?

S4to335 · 04-03-2008, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by O-cha

Crap well since no one knows the shape code for the performance friction pads does anyone know where to get a good set for the front and rear of another performance pad?

Call **********s/JLevi/SupremePowerParts or another other vendor. I have Alcons..and I know where I can get pads asap.

O-cha · 04-03-2008, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by S4to335

Call **********s/JLevi/SupremePowerParts or another other vendor. I have Alcons..and I know where I can get pads asap.

Yea but the e90 pads are apparently different?

O-cha · 04-03-2008, 07:18 PM

Parts search says we share front pads with the 328, but then If I look on real OEM it says it's actually different. I have a feeling I'm not going to have pads in time for the tracks day.

M3to335 · 04-03-2008, 08:06 PM

Thats an affirmative.

Ive still yet to find pads.

leftcoastman · 04-03-2008, 08:11 PM

Porterfield makes them. I blew through a set of R4 pads in 6 track days (with r-comps) and now I'm running Raybestos ST43.

Call them up.

O-cha · 04-03-2008, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by M3to335

Thats an affirmative.

Ive still yet to find pads.

EBC red pads
Front =
DP31449C

Rear=
DP31588C

EBC yellow
Front=
DP41449R

Rear=
DP41588R

ToddPhilly · 04-04-2008, 10:13 AM

Hawk HP+ pads to be available april 15th for the front brakes. Already ordered from tirerack...waiting for them to show up

M3to335 · 04-04-2008, 12:24 PM

Oh really? How are those for eating up the rotors?

ToddPhilly · 04-04-2008, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by M3to335

Oh really? How are those for eating up the rotors?

We shall see

M3to335 · 04-05-2008, 07:34 AM

Of course. I mean how are they supposed to treat the rotors?

ToddPhilly · 04-05-2008, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by M3to335

Of course. I mean how are they supposed to treat the rotors?

Metallic based...so probably not so good. I'm going to swap out rotors with powerslot cryos when available. They are supposed to handle the abuse of metallic based pads better than non-cryo treated rotors. I'll be sure to report as soon as I have some first hand information.

jahwerx · 04-19-2008, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ToddPhilly

Hawk HP+ pads to be available april 15th for the front brakes. Already ordered from tirerack...waiting for them to show up

What about the rears? leaving them OEM?

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shimshimhada Brigadier General 442 Rep 4,838 Posts Drives: Portal Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portal iTrader: (2)	I get overflow...but I think it might be from the fluid joshling around in there. Or maybe I really do need to upgrade to RBF600...
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O-cha Brigadier General 218 Rep 4,726 Posts Drives: Mcoupe Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: In front of you iTrader: (2)	Crap, I need to get pads ASAP was on a waiting list for a track event next weekend and they said I was up. Anyone know a good place to get the performance friction pads? What's the shape code on those? __________________
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S4to335 Brigadier General 434 Rep 4,380 Posts Drives: 2014 Audi A4 / 91 Track Miata Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: San Jose, CA iTrader: (5) Garage List 2007 BMW 335i sedan [8.00]	Good luck getting them quickly. __________________ Car is now gone .... :-(
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O-cha Brigadier General 218 Rep 4,726 Posts Drives: Mcoupe Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: In front of you iTrader: (2)	Crap well since no one knows the shape code for the performance friction pads does anyone know where to get a good set for the front and rear of another performance pad? __________________
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O-cha Brigadier General 218 Rep 4,726 Posts Drives: Mcoupe Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: In front of you iTrader: (2)	Parts search says we share front pads with the 328, but then If I look on real OEM it says it's actually different. I have a feeling I'm not going to have pads in time for the tracks day. __________________
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M3to335 Whats that smell? 145 Rep 1,790 Posts Drives: Bimmers, duh Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NC iTrader: (6)	Thats an affirmative. Ive still yet to find pads.
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04-03-2008, 08:11 PM	#37
leftcoastman Lieutenant Colonel 52 Rep 1,714 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Near some canyons iTrader: (1)	Porterfield makes them. I blew through a set of R4 pads in 6 track days (with r-comps) and now I'm running Raybestos ST43. Call them up.
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04-04-2008, 10:13 AM	#39
ToddPhilly First Lieutenant 19 Rep 313 Posts Drives: BMW 335i Coupe Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: King of Prussia, PA iTrader: (0)	Hawk HP+ pads to be available april 15th for the front brakes. Already ordered from tirerack...waiting for them to show up __________________ 335i Coupe: Crimson Red / Black X3 3.0si: Alpine White / Sand Beige
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M3to335 Whats that smell? 145 Rep 1,790 Posts Drives: Bimmers, duh Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NC iTrader: (6)	Oh really? How are those for eating up the rotors?
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04-05-2008, 07:34 AM	#42
M3to335 Whats that smell? 145 Rep 1,790 Posts Drives: Bimmers, duh Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NC iTrader: (6)	Of course. I mean how are they supposed to treat the rotors?
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