Fake Eisenmann installed at a local BMW dealer!

Kev · 03-23-2008, 10:08 PM

So they screwed on that "meisterschaft" plate to cover up the eisenmann logo on their counterfeits?

yamazaho · 03-24-2008, 02:12 AM

All I can say is WOW, some people never learn....

san~man · 03-24-2008, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Kev

So they screwed on that "meisterschaft" plate to cover up the eisenmann logo on their counterfeits?

No, according to their website that's the optional "Aero Shield," that is "Used in conjunction with exhaust for less aerodynamic drag (Anodized in Black)."

Haha, it also costs an additional $249.00. What a load of crap.

E92_335 · 03-24-2008, 02:43 AM

oh WOW. you better tell the bmw dealer ASAP and tell them to get their money back. the e92 m3 doesn't deserve this

Kev · 03-24-2008, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by san~man

No, according to their website that's the optional "Aero Shield," that is "Used in conjunction with exhaust for less aerodynamic drag (Anodized in Black)."

Haha, it also costs an additional $249.00. What a load of crap.

LOL~ great Monday morning joke. Thanks Sanford.

These jokers need to be sodomized in a Federal Penitentiary for pulling off scams like these.

alan93rsa · 03-24-2008, 11:22 AM

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What is IGA? I would be surprised if any exhaust manufacturer uses low carbon 304.

IGA = Inter Granular Attack - Carbon combines with chrome to form chrome-carbides in the HAZ, Heat Affected Zone. This depletes the grain boundaries of chrome which promotes corrosion attack. It will look like the weld failed but it is not in the weld fusion zone. Less carbon = less carbide formation = less of an IGA problem. Hence the 304L, low carbon. Better yet, use 321 which is titanium stabilized. No IGA issues.

Excellence · 03-24-2008, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jasonn

all i said was one is stainless and the other is ti. I already knew something was fishy when the m3 guys had problems with the ti version cracking.

damn right. jason you know what im sayinggggg! Now lets talk about the sexy girls in our avatars

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Originally Posted by PAKMAN

wtf is that?

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Originally Posted by san~man

My god, what a horrible looking contraption that is.

You guy would be surprised. That design is excellent and provides a really good rich sound.

Supersprint is also designed sorta like that.

Kev · 03-24-2008, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Excellence

damn right. jason you know what im sayinggggg! Now lets talk about the sexy girls in our avatars

Damn right, because the construction of that exhaust was contracted out to someone else by Eisenhaus under the authorization of eisenmann. The factory in Germany does not have the ability to work with titanium so Eisenhaus stepped in and offered to help produce these units. If the welds broke, then, it should be warrantied by eisenmann but the underlying problem is more likely that they used a factory that does not live up to the standard.

I don't know what you have against eisenmann but they are the OEM manufacturer of a lot of exhausts and their quality is definitely up to the standard when compared to other manufacturers of exhausts.

Ryan@IND · 03-24-2008, 07:45 PM

It's just a pity that the brand Eisenmann is being tarnished like this. I dealt with a lot of exhaust and they definitely have the quality.

I strongly believe that the fact that AMG / Brabus and Porsche use their manufacturing capabilities to build OE exhausts, should be a testament to their quality.

As for the price, it is pretty much the trend for all the other German brands that we sell, such as Carlsson, Brabus, Hartge, Hamann and much more. I don't think that it is just Eisemann alone.... the weak dollar really isn't helping...

just my 2cents

Excellence · 03-24-2008, 07:46 PM

Wow Essienman just fucked Essienhaus over....

Neema · 03-24-2008, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Palella@Industry

Genuine Eisenmann E92 M3 looks like this...

Gorgeous. Please, someone alert that dealer and the owner of that M3 that his eisenmann is fake. But the exhaust in these pics is amazing.

CampioniShop · 03-24-2008, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Julius@WheelSTO

It's just a pity that the brand Eisenmann is being tarnished like this. I dealt with a lot of exhaust and they definitely have the quality.

I strongly believe that the fact that AMG / Brabus and Porsche use their manufacturing capabilities to build OE exhausts, should be a testament to their quality.
As for the price, it is pretty much the trend for all the other German brands that we sell, such as Carlsson, Brabus, Hartge, Hamann and much more. I don't think that it is just Eisemann alone.... the weak dollar really isn't helping...

just my 2cents

REMUS/SEBRING GmbH confirmed us last week they were OE manufacturer for Brabus,Mercedes AMG and Porsche, see the following url :
http://www.remusexhaustshop.com/why-remus-i-6.html

IND-Distribution · 03-24-2008, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mds82

Eisenhaus has this listed on their site for the M3 exhuast -

Anyone else notice that the writing on the shield looks p-chopped?

jasonn · 03-24-2008, 10:45 PM

remus:

jasonn · 03-24-2008, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Excellence

damn right. jason you know what im sayinggggg! Now lets talk about the sexy girls in our avatars

You guy would be surprised. That design is excellent and provides a really good rich sound.

Supersprint is also designed sorta like that.

I wanna talk about yours

Kit523 · 03-25-2008, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by gundamfans

I'm surprised to see that Eisenhaus still hasn't learnt after all that fiasco (I being one of their victims and I haven't received my check yet Eisenhaus). Still selling Eisenhaus fake stuff as branded Eisenmann exhausts...way to go.

the funny thing is....the muffler and the tips still has the Eisenmann logo on it
instead of Eisenhaus

RobindaE46 · 03-25-2008, 06:55 AM

That does look like a p-shop. Btw why does Remus keep posting in here? Stay on topic.

CampioniShop · 03-25-2008, 08:38 AM

Because of obvious misinformation? Kind of ironic considering the thread's subject...

RobindaE46 · 03-25-2008, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Remus

Because of obvious misinformation? Kind of ironic considering the thread's subject...

Why are you so defensive about other exhaust brands? It shows signs of weakness. Sorry your stuff is not as popular in the US. I enjoy all the different brands. I went with Bastuck and I might change to an Eisenmann or Supersprint in the future.

CampioniShop · 03-25-2008, 08:51 AM

You've already voiced your opinion about our products, there is nothing more to add to your replies after showing facts, not opinions, about our products.

Thank you.

Kev · 03-25-2008, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Remus

You've already voiced your opinion about our products, there is nothing more to add to your replies after showing facts, not opinions, about our products.

Thank you.

My question is, "When exactly was Remus the OEM manufacturer for these companies? What's the output volume when Remus is the OEM manufacturer?" It could have been years ago or it could have been fairly recent. Listing a previous partnership means nothing if you only did one exhaust for one car in one model year. We can have IND ask eisenmann the same questions as well. Looking forward to your reply.

Excellence · 03-25-2008, 09:44 AM

You guys would be surprised. Remus performs really well, which is why they are picked to make exhausts for big car companies. They offer really good low end torque, with a great sound. Many cheap mufflers I've tried I have lost my low-end torque in my other car.
Remus also prices their mufflers really reasonable. I would get a Remus over an Essienman any day.
Also Remus offers really good customer service!

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RobindaE46 Second Lieutenant 5 Rep 201 Posts Drives: OLD ASS E46 + AW E92 335i Join Date: May 2007 Location: Mid-West iTrader: (0)	That does look like a p-shop. Btw why does Remus keep posting in here? Stay on topic. __________________ 2007 335i AW 2x90mm exhaust, BBS LM's, M-Sport Smart car for a Smart Homie
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Excellence G-STAR 200 Rep 1,897 Posts Drives: E90 to A5 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Richmond, BC iTrader: (0)	You guys would be surprised. Remus performs really well, which is why they are picked to make exhausts for big car companies. They offer really good low end torque, with a great sound. Many cheap mufflers I've tried I have lost my low-end torque in my other car. Remus also prices their mufflers really reasonable. I would get a Remus over an Essienman any day. Also Remus offers really good customer service!
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