[Sniz]

Originally Posted by smdandb2

Why not just throw nitrous at it then?

seriously?

[Sniz]

Originally Posted by grkm3

Shiv can we run water in there also?

pretty sure that would require the regular tune or a slightly altered tune, water has no fueling properties......at least that the oil companies want us to know about.

[BobVader]

WOW, congrulation.

Mmmumm good torque for my XI's.

[TurboSid]

sick numbers. can't wait to get some dp's and exhaust.

Any eta on the meth kit? i hear asr is making it?

[MSPORTWORLD]

PROPS! Keep the good work coming!

[Hunter399]

Crazy!

Awesome work Shiv.

[E92White]

Props on the dyno shiv..smdandb2 had a good question..why not nitrous ? if the internals/turbos can support this kind of power on 91+ meth why wouldnt nitrous work ? even if it were a small shot say a 40 shot ? I know alot of ppl are against nitrous and think its the worst thing in the world,but plenty of people run nitrous..I would think if the car is setup for it the right way,couldnt it ?

[AJ@ECSMotorsports]

Sick...

ProCede FTW

[smdandb2]

Originally Posted by Sniz

seriously?

Actually, it was a rather sarcastic comment.

If you're gonna run a 'power adder' why not nitrous? You have to refill both of them to maintain that kind of power.

[Malek@MRF]

Originally Posted by SLV335I

Terry said that he has hit 459 RWHP on stock turbos. Is that true?

Terry's on crack.

[Malek@MRF]

Originally Posted by smdandb2

Actually, it was a rather sarcastic comment.

If you're gonna run a 'power adder' why not nitrous? You have to refill both of them to maintain that kind of power.

I think people tend to throw nitrous and meth into the same argument. Meth is a fueling additive, nitrous is an induction additive. Very different methods of adding power.

If adding nitrous, fueling issues will arise more so than before, because with these power levels, the car is already at it's limit regarding fueling capacity.

Methanol is adding fueling to the combustion process, therefor it has the ability to make the motor run slightly richer if it's not tuned for it. I could go on for days regarding it, but I won't, I have read your posts, I think you know what I am talking about.

[#1Stunna]

Originally Posted by Malekreza11

Terry's on crack.

LOL! +1

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by E92White

Props on the dyno shiv..smdandb2 had a good question..why not nitrous ? if the internals/turbos can support this kind of power on 91+ meth why wouldnt nitrous work ? even if it were a small shot say a 40 shot ? I know alot of ppl are against nitrous and think its the worst thing in the world,but plenty of people run nitrous..I would think if the car is setup for it the right way,couldnt it ?

Because nitrous is a far riskier proposition since it requires fuel to go with it. Whereas methanol is fuel itself. Like nitrous, it offers great charge cooling abilities. But unlike nitrous it also enhances octane. You can make much bigger gains with nitrous but unless everything is working properly, it can cause a lot of damage. Especially when you are already running the fuel system close to max capacity.

Plus, a good methanol system will last MUCH longer than a big nitrous tank before it has to be refilled.

I don't think smdandb2 is very familiar with meth judging by his comment/question.

Shiv

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by smdandb2

Actually, it was a rather sarcastic comment.

If you're gonna run a 'power adder' why not nitrous? You have to refill both of them to maintain that kind of power.

When I'm driving hard, I refill my meth tank as often as I refill my gas tank. And I can do so in my garage. And it only costs my ~$5 to do so. Refilling nitrous bottles isn't nearly that convenient, inexpensive or long-lasting.

Shiv

[E92White]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Because nitrous is a far riskier proposition since it requires fuel to go with it. Whereas methanol is fuel itself. Like nitrous, it offers great charge cooling abilities. But unlike nitrous it also enhances octane. You can make much bigger gains with nitrous but unless everything is working properly, it can cause a lot of damage. Especially when you are already running the fuel system close to max capacity.

Plus, a good methanol system will last MUCH longer than a big nitrous tank before it has to be refilled.

I don't think smdandb2 is very familiar with meth judging by his comment/question.

Shiv

I see..so if someone where to take it upon themselves to run nitrous,would u say it probably be best to run a wet kit ? also would you need to run a special map to run nitrous ?

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by E92White

I see..so if someone where to take it upon themselves to run nitrous,would u say it probably be best to run a wet kit ? also would you need to run a special map to run nitrous ?

A wet kit would be much safer than a try one. Especially if you are already running the fuel system close to max capacity. And yes, you would want a custom map to go along with it. To do it properly, you would want to induce a timing retard when the nitrous is activated. To be honest, I have virtually no first hand experience with nitrous. Might want to talk to Abid at ASR since he has some crazy fast M5s running big nitrous shots.

Shiv

[Proper Motion LLC]

now have Warren run that car in the 1/4 mile. He will probably hit 11.4's or lower LOL

[Sniz]

Originally Posted by 09AlpineTTSedan

now have Warren run that car in the 1/4 mile. He will probably hit 11.4's or lower LOL

lol....I highly doubt it, Shiv's car is a manual. Warren would probably be a newb w that car at the drag strip just like anyone else.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by Sniz

lol....I highly doubt it, Shiv's car is a manual. Warren would probably be a newb w that car at the drag strip just like anyone else.

+1... it's a different world trying to get the most out of a 6MT.

[nlakind]

great numbers!

besides the stage 3 + meth what other mods is this car running? i'm assuming basically every bolt on, IE: catless dp's, catless mp's, intake, air scoops, intercooler..?

[smdandb2]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Because nitrous is a far riskier proposition since it requires fuel to go with it. Whereas methanol is fuel itself. Like nitrous, it offers great charge cooling abilities. But unlike nitrous it also enhances octane. You can make much bigger gains with nitrous but unless everything is working properly, it can cause a lot of damage. Especially when you are already running the fuel system close to max capacity.

Plus, a good methanol system will last MUCH longer than a big nitrous tank before it has to be refilled.

I don't think smdandb2 is very familiar with meth judging by his comment/question.

Shiv

I am actually really familiar with it, as I have designed and run a meth injection system in one of my drag cars as a method of charge cooling.

I was actually just arguing for the sake of arguing, and I apologize for that.

[jpsimon]

when one says they are stage 3, it assumes you are catless, have an upgraded fmic, and have dual cone intakes.

Originally Posted by nlakind

great numbers!

besides the stage 3 + meth what other mods is this car running? i'm assuming basically every bolt on, IE: catless dp's, catless mp's, intake, air scoops, intercooler..?