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Finally, the answer to, "What should my first mod be?"
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05-20-2010, 03:26 PM | #23 |
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But who runs stock boost on upgraded turbos? I will be running 16-20 psi on pump gas + meth on the streets, and that's alot of heat being produced from demanding that much power on an already weak oil cooling system.
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05-20-2010, 08:07 PM | #24 | ||||||
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There is break-in time for turbos as well as tuning time that can be used to install oil/water cooling. Additional cooling should be PART of the upgraded turbo process, however they are not needed before making the upgrade to larger turbos. Hence the order of listing them. |
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05-22-2010, 08:48 PM | #26 |
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05-22-2010, 09:28 PM | #27 | |
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Also on the flip side, the Labonte failsafe has a 12V failure output just like the CMGS/VC2, the signal the JB3 uses for its failsafe, so both the JB3 and Procede are compatible with the Labonte unit as well.
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05-22-2010, 09:29 PM | #28 |
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The first two most important mods for a daily driver are 1) tune and 2) meth.
Meth lowers the intake temps, and boosts octane - none other single mod can accomplish this.
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05-22-2010, 09:41 PM | #29 |
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Importance on a scale that is determined by each individual. Methanol is a great mod. But its always good to promote precaution to new members.
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05-22-2010, 10:03 PM | #30 | |
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CMGS has the ability to do many different types of signals. 0-5 V output with .1 volts for every 100 CC/M of flow 5V output based when you are within your flow window 5V output once you have past a boost threshold and within your flow window 12V output (with relay) or ground output (NC, NO, NC only when within the flow window, NC only within the flow window once past boost threshold) If you give the Jb3 a 12V signal, it will not switch maps. Its important the customers understand this. My company worked with Terry for about 2 months to get the map switching to work. We actually created a param in the flash that is only used for the JB3. CM Last edited by coolingmist; 05-22-2010 at 10:09 PM.. |
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05-22-2010, 10:10 PM | #31 | |
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Meth Map: Enables a hardware based methanol safety for those using the CMGS and other similar flow sensor devices. When methanol is flowing within a window enables map selected. To trigger feed a 5v signal in to pin 15 of the JB3 DB25, or a 12v signal through a 10k ohm 1/4 watt series resistor.
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05-22-2010, 10:13 PM | #32 | |
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The CMGS does not need a 10K OHM 1/4 watt series resistor. I cant comment about any other parts that any other failsafe would need. CMGS / VC2 does this natively without the need for any other parts. either way thats interesting. CM |
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05-22-2010, 11:27 PM | #35 | |
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Except that by assigning numbers to mods you make some rank higher than others. And who makes that 'new members' call - you??
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05-23-2010, 12:10 AM | #37 |
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Intake didn't make the list? Maybe I missed it.
edit: nevermind
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05-23-2010, 01:43 AM | #38 | |
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I definitely agree that BBK is a great mod. However the costs associated with a BBK and the limited ACTUAL usage of the modification put it out of my list. I whole heartedly agree that its an important step in the process while dealing with track events and high speeds. |
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05-23-2010, 10:07 AM | #39 |
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1. High Performance Driving School (the driver mod)
That should be first on most everyone's list.
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05-23-2010, 07:13 PM | #40 |
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Haha true, that or that one thing, common sense. I was lucky enough to grow up driving in the rural northwest. Learn a lot of respect for the road as well as a good feel for a manual transmission in the twisties up and down grades. I can name several dead classmates from driving into rivers, trees, walls, into hydroelectric dams...Yeah... Curvy roads with weather conditions and a bunch of crazy hill billies driving in both lanes is no joke.
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07-08-2010, 09:52 PM | #41 |
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Klipseracer,
Thanks for starting this thread. I'm basically going down this path that you outlined - it is also great because it is "flame" retardant, props for including most of the vendors as viable options. I just thought it deserved a bump because it really does outline the important things that through trial and error I'm learning. It also encourages people to do research vs. picking up a phone and trusting somebody who's job it is to sell you something on the other line. |
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08-02-2010, 10:46 PM | #42 |
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i like this post but just want to modify the list kinda to suit my needs as warranty is the biggest issue for me as of now, so tune first stay bone stock for awhile and then go to exhaust when warranty is almost gone and/or find a dealer that wont be hard asses, then down pipes and fmic to start going big, then radiator and oil cooler to keep temps low once i start pusing the boost up more, i dont like the idea of spraying and we have 93 octane here in fl so next things i would only do (but only if i plan in keeping the car a long time after warranty) would be lsd + suspension + clutch as the car will probably need a new clutch and sus anyways. and then if that still isnt enough slap on some new turbos, hmm rotors may have to get in there somewhere too
1 tune 2 cat back 3 down pipes 4 fmic 5 radiator 6 oil cooler 7 lsd 8 suspension 9 clutch 10 turbos i like this list im total noob by the way so thought i would post since so many people say the noobs are still gonna be posting I would much rather just be able to buy an m3 in 3 years tbo though , wont know if thats possible until the time comes though, maybe just get a CPO 2009 or 2010 m3 in 3 or 4 years
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08-03-2010, 01:36 AM | #43 |
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Damn. This Thread just woke up from beyond the graves. OP doesn't have his car anymore
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