Lots of changes: final iPod Interface in, new iDrive menus and more

cobradac · 08-29-2006, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by innovason

I have read the posts and it sounds like there is one person in the US with the adaptor installed, and one in Germany. I can only speak for myself, when I say, "BMW of San Diego has no info or clue when the adaptor will be released". So all this chatter of a unit installed makes me ask questions... When did it become available? BMWNA has a press release stating July...so here we are in August with only one installed in the US.

I've counted at least 6-8 installs across all boards, not including E90Post, with the majority DIY. All DIYs (at least 5) worked as soon as they attached their ipods without going to dealer. All had MP3 capable systems either as built or via PROGMAN upgrade. The oldest was a 01/05 build e63.

JSpira · 08-29-2006, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cobradac

I've counted at least 6-8 installs across all boards, not including E90Post, with the majority DIY. All DIYs (at least 5) worked as soon as they attached their ipods without going to dealer. All had MP3 capable systems either as built or via PROGMAN upgrade. The oldest was a 01/05 build e63.

If the DIYs had a CD changer, it would already be coded for CD. However, there are changes in the car's sw that were made in 22.02.01 specifically for iPod so if the car is not brought up to the newest PROGMAN and also coded it is my understanding that some things won't work "right". Of course, in some cases this might be almost imperceptible.

Greeney · 08-29-2006, 10:55 PM

So my car isnt working becasue it was never programed for a CD or iPod?

cobradac · 08-29-2006, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JSpira

If the DIYs had a CD changer, it would already be coded for CD. However, there are changes in the car's sw that were made in 22.02.01 specifically for iPod so if the car is not brought up to the newest PROGMAN and also coded it is my understanding that some things won't work "right". Of course, in some cases this might be almost imperceptible.

Your right, I should have included that all had the 6CDC and removed it. Only two ( so far) actually got the correct cover to plug the hole.

I saw the 22.02 release for E90 but not yet for E60/63. probably in dealer hands but SIB not released yet.

JSpira · 08-29-2006, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cobradac

I saw the 22.02 release for E90 but not yet for E60/63. probably in dealer hands but SIB not released yet.

It's actually 21.1.2

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Originally Posted by cobradac

Your right, I should have included that all had the 6CDC and removed it. Only two ( so far) actually got the correct cover to plug the hole.

Devil is in the details people say.

I would wager that it won't work perfectly w/o the sw.

cobradac · 08-29-2006, 11:07 PM

[QUOTE=JSpira]It's actually 21.1.2

Hmm did u miss type the #

SI B 61 14 03
General Electrical Systems June 2006
Technical Service

This Service Information bulletin supersedes S.I. B61 14 03 dated March 2006.

designates changes to this revision

SUBJECT
Software Errors Corrected with Progman

MODEL
E60, E61 (5 Series)

E63, E64 (6 Series)

SITUATION
Customer may complain of the following:

The following software errors were corrected with the release of Progman 22.00.00 (Target data Status E060-06-06-510).

and

SI B 61 03 05
General Electrical Systems August 2006
Technical Service

This Service Information bulletin supersedes S.I. B61 03 05 dated June 2006.

designates changes to this revision

SUBJECT
Software Errors Corrected with Progman

MODEL
E90, E91 (3 Series)

SITUATION
Customer may complain of the following:

The following software errors were corrected with the release of Progman 22.02.00 (Target data Status E89x-06-06-540).

rlc · 08-29-2006, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JSpira

If the DIYs had a CD changer, it would already be coded for CD. However, there are changes in the car's sw that were made in 22.02.01 specifically for iPod so if the car is not brought up to the newest PROGMAN and also coded it is my understanding that some things won't work "right". Of course, in some cases this might be almost imperceptible.

Is that true for non-IDrive cars?

My frustration is that I can buy the unit (already did) but none of the dealers in the SD area are up to speed on the install to the point that they will do the work. Harloff is where I'd prefer to get the work done, but they can't say for sure it will work properly. The service manager there has quoted me 1.5 hrs. labor to install (perfectly acceptable), but then adds I may have to pay for software "upgrades" that an internal bulletin claims MAY be necessary (totally UNacceptable) and are NOT billable as warranty work, again unacceptable.

It's not like this car is ancient - it's less than one year old. BMW sold me a product that falls within the advertised range of build dates for compatibility that REQUIRES dealer coding. If the software is not up to date that should be included as part of the accessory purchase. I know the build date of my car and progman version but they still cannot say whether or not the coding will work for sure. I don't understand that.

I'm willing to pay for install labor, but paying for progman updates to get it to work is

n0friends · 08-29-2006, 11:14 PM

I got my car back from Long Beach BMW today and got my non-Idrive Ipod adapter installed. They should have some more in stock since I am pretty sure I got the first one done there. Good job and no squeeks or rattles present...everything seems super solid.

Also, for you people trying to get your dealership to get the adapters...call the part departments and give them the part numbers and tell them to order it. When it comes in and they call you, tell them you want it installed...easy enough, right?

SCA · 08-29-2006, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by n0friends

I got my car back from Long Beach BMW today and got my non-Idrive Ipod adapter installed. They should have some more in stock since I am pretty sure I got the first one done there. Good job and no squeeks or rattles present...everything seems super solid.

Lets see somepics of the head unit in operation.

innovason · 08-29-2006, 11:26 PM

RLC where did you purchase the adaptor? I see your from North County.

rlc · 08-29-2006, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by innovason

RLC where did you purchase the adaptor? I see your from North County.

Harloff. Brecht also had them in stock today.

PersonaNonGrata · 08-29-2006, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JSpira

As far as I know, there are probably at least dozens installed if not more and BMW has shipped hundreds of units to dealers.

So it's not one in the U.S. and one in Germany.

From early June until last week, there was one - in my car. But that was last week.

Indeed. My friend just installed his MOST iPod adapter in his E60 M5. It also sounds like it was a much, much easier installation. He DIY'd and no software upgrade needed, AFAIK.

See pics here.

JSpira · 08-30-2006, 12:12 AM

[QUOTE=cobradac]

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Originally Posted by JSpira

It's actually 21.1.2

Hmm did u miss type the #

ignore what I wrote

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I WILL NOT POST WHEN SLEEPY
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Pangearox · 08-30-2006, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by slammedbimmer

If my E90 was produced in March 2006, do i need the ipod interface unit? or can i just plug in my MP3 player into the AUX jack and go on my way?
-if i do need it, can i get it at the German dealership?
As soon as i took delivery of my car, i got sent to Iraq. (thats why a dumbass question). Thanks everyone.

you can use the aux...the reason we all want this is that you can now control the ipod through the steering wheel controls and via idrive, and have song titles on the screen. so you dont have to look down at your ipod while driving and fool around like that.

vamc.mc · 08-30-2006, 08:39 AM

can someone pls post the screenshots for a non-IDrive one also???

JSpira · 08-30-2006, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by LEDZEP

Public apology - lest anyone (especially Mr. Spira) think I was being argumentative to his initial post. But I do think that the quality of care taken at dealers is going to vary from dealer to dealer and there certainly can be a bias if a customer is known to have influence. My dealer is good and they do good work, but I would still be nervous about them taking my dash apart, and the inevitable arguments about whether scratches were 'already there' or not.

My E90 was built in May '05 so I would expect to hear "sorry, you don't have the right system".

no worries, LED
I agree completely re quality varying but my dealer was nice to me and performed more than competently

before I became a famous writer

Greeney · 08-30-2006, 09:13 AM

Just a small update on the PROGMAN update,I experience almost no boot time with it I just go open the car with my CA start her up and the iDrive is ready to go. Ohh and the Legal trash screen does go away after about 2-3 seconds! That is by far the best thing BMW has ever done, has anyone even read taht screen? Anyway, im also new to iDrive and this is my first car with it and I must say I love it already! except for the Nav, that needs some work. But i can call POIs straight from the directory if that means anything.

Oz · 08-30-2006, 09:16 AM

Do you guys think I can get the newest CIP software update when I go for servi ce since I am almost at 15k?

JSpira · 08-30-2006, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Oz

Do you guys think I can get the newest CIP software update when I go for servi ce since I am almost at 15k?

Do you have something that "needs fixing"? <wink wink>

So many people here post symptoms....

spydrz · 08-30-2006, 09:24 AM

Does anybody have any images of the non-iDrive radio screen with the adapter? Just curious. Thanks

voodoo22 · 08-30-2006, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by spydrz

Does anybody have any images of the non-iDrive radio screen with the adapter? Just curious. Thanks

I second this, but with people getting quoted over $400 for this in Canada, I really glad I bought the monster cable option posted in the other DIY for 50$.

voodoo22 · 08-30-2006, 10:42 AM

Hey JSpira:

Are you still able to manipulate the ipod using it's own interface while it's plugged into your Car? Is the cord long enough to open the glove box and manipulate the ipods controls while you're sitting in the passenger seat?

I don't have i-drive and right now (with the whole monster cable, aux thing) my passengers enjoy playing DJ while I drive.

Thanks for the info.

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cobradac First Lieutenant 20 Rep 374 Posts Drives: '05 645Ci Coupe Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Titusville, FLA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2005 645Ci [0.00]	[QUOTE=JSpira]It's actually 21.1.2 Hmm did u miss type the # SI B 61 14 03 General Electrical Systems June 2006 Technical Service This Service Information bulletin supersedes S.I. B61 14 03 dated March 2006. designates changes to this revision SUBJECT Software Errors Corrected with Progman MODEL E60, E61 (5 Series) E63, E64 (6 Series) SITUATION Customer may complain of the following: The following software errors were corrected with the release of Progman 22.00.00 (Target data Status E060-06-06-510). and SI B 61 03 05 General Electrical Systems August 2006 Technical Service This Service Information bulletin supersedes S.I. B61 03 05 dated June 2006. designates changes to this revision SUBJECT Software Errors Corrected with Progman MODEL E90, E91 (3 Series) SITUATION Customer may complain of the following: The following software errors were corrected with the release of Progman 22.02.00 (Target data Status E89x-06-06-540).
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n0friends Registered 0 Rep 4 Posts Drives: E90 330i Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Santa Monica, CA iTrader: (0)	I got my car back from Long Beach BMW today and got my non-Idrive Ipod adapter installed. They should have some more in stock since I am pretty sure I got the first one done there. Good job and no squeeks or rattles present...everything seems super solid. Also, for you people trying to get your dealership to get the adapters...call the part departments and give them the part numbers and tell them to order it. When it comes in and they call you, tell them you want it installed...easy enough, right?
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Greeney Brigadier General 213 Rep 3,835 Posts Drives: Jerez E90 M3 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Westchester, NY / Fort Lauderdale, FL iTrader: (4)	Just a small update on the PROGMAN update,I experience almost no boot time with it I just go open the car with my CA start her up and the iDrive is ready to go. Ohh and the Legal trash screen does go away after about 2-3 seconds! That is by far the best thing BMW has ever done, has anyone even read taht screen? Anyway, im also new to iDrive and this is my first car with it and I must say I love it already! except for the Nav, that needs some work. But i can call POIs straight from the directory if that means anything. __________________ 11' E90 M3 6MT \| Jerez Black \| Black Ext./Carbon \| ZCP \| ZCW \| ZPP \| ZTP \| 302 \| 403 \| 507 \| 5AC \| 655 \| 6FL \| 752 \| 15' F80 M3 6MT \| Black Saphire \| Black Full \| ZEC \| ZLP \| 2VF \| 2VZ \| 5DL \| 688 \|
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voodoo22 Private 9 Rep 79 Posts Drives: e90 - 330i Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	Hey JSpira: Are you still able to manipulate the ipod using it's own interface while it's plugged into your Car? Is the cord long enough to open the glove box and manipulate the ipods controls while you're sitting in the passenger seat? I don't have i-drive and right now (with the whole monster cable, aux thing) my passengers enjoy playing DJ while I drive. Thanks for the info.
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