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      10-18-2017, 03:19 PM   #1
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Smile VRSF inlets vs MMP inlets

I know this topic has been beaten to death, I did a lot of researching and no one ever gives a clear answer.

I am choosing between VRSF stock location inlets vs MMP stock location inlets.

I know MMP did a write up vs VTT inlets on another n54 post but people are saying that it's biased, blah blah.

Pricing is similar now with MMP being a little cheaper than VRSF.

VRSF 249.99-269.99(Stainless steel) - Claiming UP TO 60whp
MMP 219.99 - Claiming UP TO 51WHP

Obviously not expecting those gains on a FBO stock turbo car but that's what they generally seem to claim UP TO.

What i want to know is the following.

  • Which has better quality?
  • Which has actual higher gains?
  • Which has the best fit to stock turbos?
  • Can you show me Dynos and delta with before and after that compare both with a FBO stock turbo car?

I will only get the stock location.

So any insight helps as i am trying to purchase by the end of this week.
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That looks clean!!

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Should BQ CF Inlets be included
Will these fit n54 in 135i, 335i and 535i or are z4 exclusive?
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What's the pricing on these ?
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Those look amazing. More details please!
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Not sure if those BQ inlets are available but they look the business for sure. Others I'll have to go with VRSF on my recommendation.
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You list stainless steel - isn't that only for the relocated inlets? I thought all of the stock location inlets were silicone - except for BQ obviously.

I'd HATE to try and run a stainless inlet behind the engine. Getting the stock one out was a PITA in its own right.
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Not sure if those BQ inlets are available but they look the business for sure. Others I'll have to go with VRSF on my recommendation.
They are not available yet, we are doing some stringent testing, and looking for flaws that may need some improvements. There will be two more other cars a 335is and a 135i that this is going on also for fitment etc
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You list stainless steel - isn't that only for the relocated inlets? I thought all of the stock location inlets were silicone - except for BQ obviously.

I'd HATE to try and run a stainless inlet behind the engine. Getting the stock one out was a PITA in its own right.
Only silicon for stock location is available.
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You list stainless steel - isn't that only for the relocated inlets? I thought all of the stock location inlets were silicone - except for BQ obviously.

I'd HATE to try and run a stainless inlet behind the engine. Getting the stock one out was a PITA in its own right.
Only silicon for stock location is available.
FWIW, I had a shop install silicone Stock location inlets because I didn't want to tackle the job. Despite the absolutely meticulous nature of their work, the rear inlet is backing off the turbo snout.... were I to do it again, I would not use silicone in that application.
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FWIW, I had a shop install silicone Stock location inlets because I didn't want to tackle the job. Despite the absolutely meticulous nature of their work, the rear inlet is backing off the turbo snout.... were I to do it again, I would not use silicone in that application.
Truth be told, most issues with installs happen when people use a mechanic/shop.

I can't begin to tell you how many stories with problems start with "my shop installed"... Soon as we tell the customer to DIY and fix the issue, the problem is gone.

That being said, the rear turbo inlet does require extra attention to get it right. I usually suggest cleaning the area thoroughly to get rid of the oils not only on the silicon but on the turbo area itself as it can be oily and prone to slip off. 99% of people don't do this step.
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Truth be told, most issues with installs happen when people use a mechanic/shop.

I can't begin to tell you how many stories with problems start with "my shop installed"... Soon as we tell the customer to DIY and fix the issue, the problem is gone.

That being said, the rear turbo inlet does require extra attention to get it right. I usually suggest cleaning the area thoroughly to get rid of the oils not only on the silicon but on the turbo area itself as it can be oily and prone to slip off. 99% of people don't do this step.

Ran into this same issue after I installed MMP inlets. I suggest you brake clean the rear inlet to make sure everything is oil free. Even using a lift, it was a 2 person job, and about 3 hours to correctly position the worm clamp on the rear inlet to make sure that it did not slip off of the turbo again. Not a fun job to have to do twice.
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Truth be told, most issues with installs happen when people use a mechanic/shop.

I can't begin to tell you how many stories with problems start with "my shop installed"... Soon as we tell the customer to DIY and fix the issue, the problem is gone.

That being said, the rear turbo inlet does require extra attention to get it right. I usually suggest cleaning the area thoroughly to get rid of the oils not only on the silicon but on the turbo area itself as it can be oily and prone to slip off. 99% of people don't do this step.

Ran into this same issue after I installed MMP inlets. I suggest you brake clean the rear inlet to make sure everything is oil free. Even using a lift, it was a 2 person job, and about 3 hours to correctly position the worm clamp on the rear inlet to make sure that it did not slip off of the turbo again. Not a fun job to have to do twice.
What a bugger; thanks for the comments guys!

Look like my pan gasket is starting to leak too. The car runs as well as it did 70k miles ago, however; but it's much faster!
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Ran into this same issue after I installed MMP inlets. I suggest you brake clean the rear inlet to make sure everything is oil free. Even using a lift, it was a 2 person job, and about 3 hours to correctly position the worm clamp on the rear inlet to make sure that it did not slip off of the turbo again. Not a fun job to have to do twice.
Yea it's always a PITA but yea cleaning that area is crucial.


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What a bugger; thanks for the comments guys!

Look like my pan gasket is starting to leak too. The car runs as well as it did 70k miles ago, however; but it's much faster!
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They are not available yet, we are doing some stringent testing, and looking for flaws that may need some improvements. There will be two more other cars a 335is and a 135i that this is going on also for fitment etc
Have pics? Seems like most were commenting on a picture, but I don't see any..
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Have pics? Seems like most were commenting on a picture, but I don't see any..
Here is a vid on the day I stopped by my shop Eurowerks Automotive in South Florida to check out the install.

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Here is a vid on the day I stopped by my shop Eurowerks Automotive in South Florida to check out the install.

Looks dope bro! When you drop them, is there going to be a group buy for the e9x N54 guys..??
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Looks dope bro! When you drop them, is there going to be a group buy for the e9x N54 guys..??
Thanks bro, Im not sure what i am going to do. Group buys dont work out as expected all the time. I have seen people flodge putting vendors into frustration. Im not sure I will want to risk dealing with such a thing.

The current objective is testing, observation of the material, longevity and fitment. I have a 3 series and a 1 series Im going to be playing with soon.


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That is a very nice alternative to oem, last I read it has a height restriction,and only able to work with a m3 hood. As far as inlets, there all made from silicone and will rub/chaff during there life. That's why the oem ones are bolted to the engine. I can say that we can agree that all turbo cars love cool air,the shortest run possible,with the largest diameter pipe.
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That is a very nice alternative to oem, last I read it has a height restriction,and only able to work with a m3 hood.
No not a hood, the 3 series and 1 series will have to convert their cowl to the M3 cowl in order to do the 740i intake conversion

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As far as inlets, there all made from silicone and will rub/chaff during there life.
Yup, thats why I sought to run the CF inlets in the same fashion of the 740i and X6 35ix inlets that carry the N54.

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