[W37V]

Originally Posted by JohnG7

Hey W37V,
The folks at AA sent me the newer updated tune to test, said they have worked to increase low end torque since my "beta" tune from March. I really liked the tune they sent me then, but like you, thought maybe they can bump up the lower RPM torque. Nic said this later version worked to improve it. Well, Ima gonna give this tune a try.

In fairness, I really need to get my injectors cleaned and swap plugs to get my car to it's full potential- I will. Even with my slight hesitation, with that tune the power is there and it smoothed out disa transitions more than I thought possible.

More is always the goal, AA is still working to improve the tune- I believe most tunes are "a work in progress". I'll report back after I load and test this latest version (maybe is V3.011A??) AA is listening...

What setup are you running?

Yeah, Andrew said that the tune sent to me was "almost ready", so I wouldn't be surprised it if they make some small mods to it.

[JohnG7]

OK, Got it installed. First impression is, it's hot as hell in my garage (news said 109'F index at noon). AA did improve my torque, is obvious from first time I put it in Drive. From idle till redline, there is improvement over my base 30i factory tune.

The N52 will never be blamed for too much low end tq, but AA has improved on low end (as well as mid and upper power). Can't say it'll transform your engine into turbo range, it won't. It will improve the driving enjoyment for most. The DISA transitions are blended thru well, smoother than before (compared to my 2015 tune).

My car is a 2010 Z4 (s30i) auto - the only non-stock change: the tune, my charcoal delete and a K&N filter. Headers have always been considered, but really didn't want to have to modify the AA flanges (different on a Z4). I have the new plugs sitting here, dammit. I just gotta nut-up and go sweat some.

These are all just butt-dyno judgements, but real dyno reports should verify these tunes are improvements. I'll go run this thing some more later, IF it cools down some.

[SflBimmer8484]

Good to hear some positive feedback from our new software updates going out.

[rick100]

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

Good to hear some positive feedback from our new software updates going out.

So when is it going to be offical or are you still through the testing phase. I called bimmersport and they said its available now but i have not read anything official from you guys yet

[SflBimmer8484]

Originally Posted by rick100

So when is it going to be offical or are you still through the testing phase. I called bimmersport and they said its available now but i have not read anything official from you guys yet

Just verifying multiple results at this point before the final release in regards to certain setups.

[Volasko]

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

Just verifying multiple results at this point before the final release in regards to certain setups.

Andrew,

I have an appointment on Friday to reflash my 330i. Should I cancel this and push this back and wait for the official release?

[SflBimmer8484]

Originally Posted by Volasko

Andrew,

I have an appointment on Friday to reflash my 330i. Should I cancel this and push this back and wait for the official release?

Get the update no need to push it back.

[rick100]

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

Just verifying multiple results at this point before the final release in regards to certain setups.

I currently have 3 stage intake , AA headers, AA stage 3 off road tune ( no cel), charcoal filter delete , k and n filter drop and I added a high flow cats behind my secondaries. Xdrive 2011 , 328xi

I guess the tune for the mods I have is not out yet

[W37V]

Originally Posted by rick100

I currently have 3 stage intake , AA headers, AA stage 3 off road tune ( no cel), charcoal filter delete , k and n filter drop and I added a high flow cats behind my secondaries. Xdrive 2011 , 328xi

I guess the tune for the mods I have is not out yet

What are you talking about not out? You just need 3si and headers turn, which is the one I reviewed in this post.

[rick100]

Originally Posted by W37V

What are you talking about not out? You just need 3si and headers turn, which is the one I reviewed in this post.

yea but what you have is a test tune , just like what the other member had. It seems the tune is still being on the testing phase. The final version is not out yet , at least officially. The final version may have more tweaks


As per the other mods, anytime I have done the AA tune , they have always asked me about all the mods I have on my car excluding headers and 3 stage intake. Not sure if the tune has to be modified a little bit or if the ecu adapts itself , but I always tell them.

[W37V]

Originally Posted by rick100

yea but what you have is a test tune , just like what the other member had. It seems the tune is still being on the testing phase. The final version is not out yet , at least officially. The final version may have more tweaks


As per the other mods, anytime I have done the AA tune , they have always asked me about all the mods I have on my car excluding headers and 3 stage intake. Not sure if the tune has to be modified a little bit or if the ecu adapts itself , but I always tell them.

Im not quite sure I'm following your train of thought here. Your additions or mods other than 3si and headers are irrelevant and if you are expecting for a any company to create a tune that has an adjustment for two sets of secondary cars, then dream on.

Regarding the tune: maybe you missed this part:

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

Get the update no need to push it back.

[rick100]

Originally Posted by W37V

Im not quite sure I'm following your train of thought here. Your additions or mods other than 3si and headers are irrelevant and if you are expecting for a any company to create a tune that has an adjustment for two sets of secondary cars, then dream on.

Regarding the tune: maybe you missed this part:

you missed the part where the guy told andrew he is just running a 330 without any more mods, you also missed the part where andrew said "verifying multiple results at this point before the final release in regards to certain setups"

I m guessing those certain setups are mainly AA headers , as there isnt really many mods on the 328 that will really make a difference on a tune. I much rather have a final version than a test version. If I had the simon tool then I would be up for test versions , maybe...

As per my mods, again I just go safe and tell them what I have period .

[JuniorB]

Awesome,you guys are back out!

[xwilkinx]

Just a warning that the new AA tune still causes the 2D59 fault (limp mode) with the 3-stage intake upgrade. You can look back in the forums and find other people with this same issue when flashing the AA tune.

It's happening to my car at the moment. When I revert to the stage 2 tune it works fine. I know BPC is aware of this and potentially has a fix, still waiting on their response.

I wonder if AA will ever fix this?

[JohnG7]

Originally Posted by xwilkinx

Just a warning that the new AA tune still causes the 2D59 fault (limp mode) with the 3-stage intake upgrade. You can look back in the forums and find other people with this same issue when flashing the AA tune.

It's happening to my car at the moment. When I revert to the stage 2 tune it works fine. I know BPC is aware of this and potentially has a fix, still waiting on their response.

I wonder if AA will ever fix this?

I have been running my NEWest AA tune now for a week and I love it. I have no limp mode, nor any faults. I just returned from across state, I ran the snot out of it, mostly in 100'F + temperatures. The car ran great.

A tune does not repair other mechanical issues, nor should it cause faults.

I was running one of the early NEW tunes since March, also with no faults- but this tune has improved on that one, which was an improvement over my late 2015 AA tune.

My car has the 3IM, no headers, basically stock (other than charcoal delete and K&N). Your tune should be very similar.

I do get one engine check light when first loading these tunes, then clear adaptations and go drive it. No lights, no faults.

I do wish you luck with your problem- if tune related, my bet is they'll help. This latest revision would be acceptable by me as a final product, improvements were made. How it compares to the BPC tune is not something I know. I do hope both companies keep making improvements if any are found. I hate to think any tune is final, thats when I go elsewhere.

[hassmaschine]

2D59 is torque overflow - it's not caused by a mechanical problem with the car.

[JohnG7]

Originally Posted by hassmaschine

2D59 is torque overflow - it's not caused by a mechanical problem with the car.

OK, got it. I just wanted to clarify that not all cars with the 3IM tune get this error. I have really put my car through the wringer this last week, no errors of any kind. Transmission tune may well be different between the 30i cars and 28i/25i cars, I believe you guys are dissecting tranny tunes too.

Over the last week, I dogged my car more than any other time. I've hit the rev limit more lately than ever before, and many balls to the wall starts. I get no alarms.

I did send an email to AA to see their response. My experience of one means little overall, but not ALL AA 3IM tunes cause problems. I too would be upset if mine did, luckily it doesn't.

[xwilkinx]

Yeah, it's a torque limit fault. It's caused by the tune (N54 guys also get it sometimes).

Not saying it always occurs for 3IM guys, but it's not unique to me. I've talked to a few other members who experienced the same issue as well which is fixed when you revert to the stage 2 AA tune or remove the tune all together.

I've been talking with AA the past few days for this issue and they've been trying to help. I forwarded them my conversation with BPC (who claim they can fix it and is a common issue) so hopefully we'll see an improved tune soon.

Also just to note the limp mode never occurs at WOT, only at partial throttle (usually around 3000RPM).

[6ixSpd]

So basically a 6MT car shouldn't have any issues?

[xwilkinx]

You can still get the 2D59 fault with a 6MT, but not sure how many N52 6MT guys have so far.

[Volasko]

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

Get the update no need to push it back.

Got the new V3 flash done recently and I'm still in the adaptation stage. Only have put about 200 km's on it but so far so good. I don't want to get into any details about power levels so far as that is so subjective and still early, but I did notice the DISA smoothnesss and extra low range torque almost right away. Obviously nothing life changing (coming from the Ver 2 tune) but noticeable none the less. The fact AA doesn't charge for the revision update and is still trying to improve an old platform makes me a happy customer.

No check engine lights or anything with my 3StgIM, but I didn't need to retrofit it like 328i owners so that may have something to do with it.

[SflBimmer8484]

Originally Posted by Volasko

Got the new V3 flash done recently and I'm still in the adaptation stage. Only have put about 200 km's on it but so far so good. I don't want to get into any details about power levels so far as that is so subjective and still early, but I did notice the DISA smoothnesss and extra low range torque almost right away. Obviously nothing life changing but noticeable none the less. The fact AA doesn't charge for the revision update and is still trying to improve an old platform makes me a happy customer.

No check engine lights or anything with my 3StgIM, but I didn't need to retrofit it like 328i owners so that may have something to do with it.

Good to hear. Look forward to your review later.