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      10-23-2008, 01:01 AM   #1
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Need Urgent Help!!!! Car sale pending but.....

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Ok, so this guy, after already talking to him about the details with my car, has finally accepted the sale. But something about this seems a little off I don't know, maybe its cause this is my first time selling a car but still. Any help will be appreciated. This is the last email he sent me:


Greetings ,

Thank you very much for your mail.

PRICE ACCEPTED:


I have accepted your price and am ready to do business with you.

PAYMENT METHOD:

I am going to make out a total over draft check of $ 29,000 that will cover the cost of your vehicle and the shipping/pick-up.
Therefore,you are required to take the cost of your vehicle ($ 23,500), and send my agent the remaining balance ($ 5,500) for the shipping and the pick-up of the vehicle to me.

BALANCE OF PAYMENT:

The reason for the balance of the payment is to help the agent and the shipper offset the shipping and pick-up bills,paper work and any other necessary expenses that might occur during the process on this transaction.

REASON FOR THE CHECK AT THAT AMOUNT:

The check has already been made by my client before he traveled, on the previous car i wanted to buy for him but unfortunately,it had an accident on a day before the day my agent came to pick-up the car.the business was later canceled and we come across your car on the autotrader.

PAYMENT INFORMATION NEEDED:

Therefore I need the following information for your payment to be delivered to you.

(1) Your FULL NAME ( that will be on the check )

(2) ADDRESS ( where the payment will be delivered.)

(3) TELEPHONE NUMBER(TO REACH YOU)

MY INFORMATION:

Philip Adams..
688 2nd RD E,Stoney Creek,
ontario L8J 2X9
Canada.


BELOW IS MY CLIENT INFORMATION:

Name:Jonnathan tilla.
ADDRESS:454 2nd RD E,
Stoney Creek,ontario L8J 2X9

Thank You.

Philip.

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      10-23-2008, 01:15 AM   #2
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It's smells like a scam.

The whole "send my agent the remaining balance" is a common one.

A quick google search will reveal a lot.
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      10-23-2008, 01:17 AM   #3
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I am not sure whether I had the same experience or not, but i think it is similar.
Here is the case:

2 years before, i planned on selling my 300zx for $6000, however, a buyer wanted to buy from me and claimed that whether i can ship the car to poland. He also told me that he would arrange a man to my place and ship that car for me. So he sent me a Money Order for $10,000 plus shipping. The remaining balance- he asked me to send him back the check to XXX address.
2 Days later, i recieved a money order issued by BOA with that amount. At that time, i really doubt with the Money order. So that i went into BOA and asked about it. after seconds, She told me that was a valid money order. But I just couldn't believe, so i called the specific center of BOA that dealt with money order and checks...etc, after 10 mins of waiting, i was told that BOA had NEVER issued that Money Order-which meant it was a FAKE one. I was totally shocked by the 100% same looking money order.

Look Story short, offcourse, i didn't sell my car to him.
You need to be aware of those things, and i wouldn't try these things again. I would rather waiting for another intended buyer
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      10-23-2008, 01:19 AM   #4
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i would watch out. once you give someone money, thats it, they dont have to give it back. selling face to face is best. if he wanted the car, he would come get it. and paying an agent a fee is obserd, he should pay himself, they do live in the same city so why should you pay? and by same city, i mean same road, look at the address. i wouldnt risk it. watch out for this type of stuff, stuff like agents, deposits and escrow companies... selling to international buyers is something you should avoid if you want things to go smoothly. good luck.
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      10-23-2008, 01:23 AM   #5
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      10-23-2008, 01:24 AM   #6
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thats one of the oldest scams in the book, dont fall for it. they will take your car and your money and the bank will contact you a few days later and tell you the check was no good. that scam has been going around forever.
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It Is Scam

They Don't Really Need Your Car ... They Just Want To Cash Out That Check And Get Some Money Back From It ... The Bank Will Go After You To Get Money Back
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ahhh nigeria... i was reading an article on how some of the money they make from scams is used to fund war. so sad
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Thanks guys!!!! yeah i emailed him saying that i could only except cashiers check and that he would have to just give the money to the agent. Thanks everyone!!!
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      10-23-2008, 01:44 AM   #10
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Thanks guys!!!! yeah i emailed him saying that i could only except cashiers check and that he would have to just give the money to the agent. Thanks everyone!!!
dude just stop talking to him at all ...

here is another scam

I was about to jump on this car, but he told me that he will pay for the shipping and will send me check for 10k and I need to send the rest to him ... Plus phn number is wrong and the car is not even in CA



http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...000&cardist=99
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SCAM...dont do it!
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      10-23-2008, 09:40 AM   #12
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do NOT take even a cashiers check.

The "nigerian" scams now involve cashiers check that even the bank thinks is real until about three weeks later. There were people who cashed the check, bank provided funds, tell you its cleared, then three weeks come back and tell you that you owe them 29 grand.

Once you wire money, it's over.
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Thanks guys, yeah im just going to steer away from him......This is why i think this is one of the best forums, great people like yourselves ready to help!!!
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Thanks guys, yeah im just going to steer away from him......This is why i think this is one of the best forums, great people like yourselves ready to help!!!
well its a good thing you conferred with us then
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      10-23-2008, 12:14 PM   #15
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well its a good thing you conferred with us then
Heck yeah!!! Otherwise that guy could be with 5500 richer right now
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