[DrC_UArk]

Had my 335xi in for the blower motor recall. BMW of Northwest Arkansas. Service rep let me know my front brake pads were getting low, about 5mm. He quoted me...

$1098

to replace the front pads.



Sweet merciful crap, I'm glad I own a wrench.

[Persian Whisperjet]

Yeah but that coffee....

[e90yyc]

LOL. Surely that includes rotors, but that’s still whack AF.

[DrC_UArk]

No rotors. Just front pads and wear sensors. He had such a complete look of confidence, too.

[roadkillrob]

Holy shit - that is impressive - like an hour of labor and $120 in parts - is your dealer rate like $900 an hour?

[charlieb]

the new guy would have those pads swapped in 15 mins.

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And someone out there will pay for it.

[Efthreeoh]

I would have said "I'll wait until the pad wear indicator comes on".

[OnlyDriveGerman]

Instead of asking you to sit at his desk and discuss your options, did he at least offer a barrel to bend you over as a courtesy before the attempted screwing?!

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Originally Posted by OnlyDriveGerman

Instead of asking you to sit at his desk and discuss your options, did he at least offer a barrel to bend you over as a courtesy before the attempted screwing?!

Isn't that what he just did and then gave the option of finding a cheaper lady of the night?

[F30lolz]

Originally Posted by roadkillrob

Holy shit - that is impressive - like an hour of labor and $120 in parts - is your dealer rate like $900 an hour?

Interesting to see the work order/invoice breakdown of this. Since I’m bored on a Sunday morning I’ll assume:

Front OEM Brake Pads: $198.00
(2) Brake Cleaners: $29.68 ea.
Brake Fluid Flush (required): $269.00
(2) Brake Fluid: $39.98 ea.
(2.25 Hr) Labor @ $215.00 Hr: $483.75
Misc Shop Fees: $10.00

Tax: TBD

Slightly over $1098. Smart move by declining OP

[CTinline-six]

While it seems high to us DIYers that sadly isn't that far outside the norm. A friend at work has a newer Ford Focus and she called a few different shops for front brakes and rotors and none of the quotes came back under $500.... on a Focus... which probably has smaller brakes than my lawn tractor.

[ryan stewart]

$215 an hour? That should come with the girlfriend experience.

[mapster37]

the price probably includes cutting/resurfacing the rotors....

[hubstacker]

What is a typical price for that job? I need to replace my front break rotors/ pads. There getting pretty bad.

[dakine_surf]

Originally Posted by CTinline-six

While it seems high to us DIYers that sadly isn't that far outside the norm. A friend at work has a newer Ford Focus and she called a few different shops for front brakes and rotors and none of the quotes came back under $500.... on a Focus... which probably has smaller brakes than my lawn tractor.

Yep, sounds about right... new fords are expensive. My brand spanking new 2019 F-150 just needed $6700 worth of injector, HPFP, and turbo work at just slightly north of 7K miles. All covered under warranty of course but a little shocking none the less. What's even worse is this F-150 was a replacement for my 2017 F-150, that at 67K miles developed engine issues. Of course, it was 7K miles over warranty so they led me down a $3600 diagnostic rabbit hole that by 72K miles they were telling me I needed a new engine to the tune of $27,000 after parts and labor.

My truck wasn't modded heavily, just an exhaust and mild SCT tune. I told them very politely to fuck themselves with something sharp and rusty and then I hired a lawyer who got ford to buy the truck back for what I paid as long as I put it towards another ford product.

It's a bummer because I have been a Ford Truck guy since I was a kid. I grew up in a BMW household, but on a ranch, so my dad always had Ford trucks in the driveway, still does to this day. I'm pretty sure this will be my last F-150 for a while, I love the 3.5 EcoBoost V6 when it is running healthy (probably like the n54) but I just don't see myself hanging on to it after warranty, and I just can't justify an $80K super duty diesel.

I kept my old tuner from my 2017 and I know SCT has new tunes for the 2019/20 3.5 EcoBoost and they say they are reliably getting 524HP and 609 ft/lbs. But I just shy away after my experiences, the last thing I want is to get denied a warranty claim on a $55K truck where the engine is half the cost of the entire vehicle.

[silvercas]

Im guessing you didnt have a NDA barring you from telling us the FORD story?

Originally Posted by dakine_surf

Yep, sounds about right... new fords are expensive. My brand spanking new 2019 F-150 just needed $6700 worth of injector, HPFP, and turbo work at just slightly north of 7K miles. All covered under warranty of course but a little shocking none the less. What's even worse is this F-150 was a replacement for my 2017 F-150, that at 67K miles developed engine issues. Of course, it was 7K miles over warranty so they led me down a $3600 diagnostic rabbit hole that by 72K miles they were telling me I needed a new engine to the tune of $27,000 after parts and labor.

My truck wasn't modded heavily, just an exhaust and mild SCT tune. I told them very politely to fuck themselves with something sharp and rusty and then I hired a lawyer who got ford to buy the truck back for what I paid as long as I put it towards another ford product.

It's a bummer because I have been a Ford Truck guy since I was a kid. I grew up in a BMW household, but on a ranch, so my dad always had Ford trucks in the driveway, still does to this day. I'm pretty sure this will be my last F-150 for a while, I love the 3.5 EcoBoost V6 when it is running healthy (probably like the n54) but I just don't see myself hanging on to it after warranty, and I just can't justify an $80K super duty diesel.

I kept my old tuner from my 2017 and I know SCT has new tunes for the 2019/20 3.5 EcoBoost and they say they are reliably getting 524HP and 609 ft/lbs. But I just shy away after my experiences, the last thing I want is to get denied a warranty claim on a $55K truck where the engine is half the cost of the entire vehicle.

[dakine_surf]

Originally Posted by silvercas

Im guessing you didnt have a NDA barring you from telling us the FORD story?

Actually, I do, but it's on specifics that relate to why the engine failed and my experience with 2 different ford dealers during all this and how they and Ford North America handled the situation originally.

I can tell the world however that in the end, FORD did make it right (they actually encouraged me to do so), but it was a major hassle and required legal counsel. I just can't give the full story or post pictures of my original repair quotes, had to remove a few rants from the ecoboost forums as well.

[phillycx]

Originally Posted by hubstacker

What is a typical price for that job? I need to replace my front break rotors/ pads. There getting pretty bad.

My mechanic, who is BMW certified, did my front brakes and rotors for $470 total using OEM parts.

[nsjames]

Originally Posted by CTinline-six

While it seems high to us DIYers that sadly isn't that far outside the norm. A friend at work has a newer Ford Focus and she called a few different shops for front brakes and rotors and none of the quotes came back under $500.... on a Focus... which probably has smaller brakes than my lawn tractor.

the lincoln dealer just quoted my grandmother (she's 84) $600 for the front pads/rotors on her MKZ.

I'm putting nice stuff on it front and rear for $200. corrosion coated rotors, ceramic pads, all the hardware.

and I'll do a better job than the brake jockey at the dealer.

they have no shame.


when I was in for the airbag recall the service advisor sat down with a bundle of paper and said "we found some stuff we should go over"
I said "the valve cover and oil pan leak. and it needs the brake fluid changed ."
and he said "I think we're good here"

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

OP unless you show the quote I'm gonna call bullshit

[ny325]

$1,200 for full brake job. Pads, rotors, sensor's. That includes a brake fluid flush. This was done at a dealership.