[Nickco43]

Originally Posted by Gentry

I cant find this adaptor on ebay, do they have a special name?

You need to be a retrofit company to buy from car systems. They are very hesitant to work with individuals.

[ptpending]

Originally Posted by M335

You have to get m-sport steering wheel with air bag from f10 & special BMW F-Steering wheel to Exx retrofit adapter from eBay.
Be ready to spend from $1000-$1200 for everything

are you sure that wheel should be from f10 ? not from f30/f15 ?

[Gentry]

Originally Posted by Nickco43

You need to be a retrofit company to buy from car systems. They are very hesitant to work with individuals.

do you know any in the bay area or LA, CA, that would do this sort of switch?

[Nickco43]

Originally Posted by Gentry

do you know any in the bay area or LA, CA, that would do this sort of switch?

I am trying to strike a deal with the Ukrainians who make these boxes but they are very hard to deal with.

http://bmw**************.com/navigat...r%20e%20series

This is the only shop in the world that sells to the public and he has a healthy markup.

Edit: they blocked the link:

[Gentry]

Thats not bad if it let me get that awesome new wheel installed the spline on the two wheels match up from what Ive seen others say.
This harness is some sort of little computer that translates the signals from the new buttons and changes the signals to match the e90?

[6ixSpd]

It all runs on the CANBUS system, if one compares the wiring diagrams and pins for an E9X wheel and the F3X they're looking to swap, I think it should be fairly simple to do the conversion as long as the wheel itself physically bolts up fine to the steering column.

You'd likely need to rewire a few of the pins/plugs, but there's like a total of 12 in the clockspring anyways and I'd bet some are very similar.

Comparing the info on TIS should help decipher this.

[Gentry]

Originally Posted by 6ixSpd

It all runs on the CANBUS system, if one compares the wiring diagrams and pins for an E9X wheel and the F3X they're looking to swap, I think it should be fairly simple to do the conversion as long as the wheel itself physically bolts up fine to the steering column.

You'd likely need to rewire a few of the pins/plugs, but there's like a total of 12 in the clockspring anyways and I'd bet some are very similar.

Comparing the info on TIS should help decipher this.

What is TIS?

[Nickco43]

Originally Posted by 6ixSpd

It all runs on the CANBUS system, if one compares the wiring diagrams and pins for an E9X wheel and the F3X they're looking to swap, I think it should be fairly simple to do the conversion as long as the wheel itself physically bolts up fine to the steering column.

You'd likely need to rewire a few of the pins/plugs, but there's like a total of 12 in the clockspring anyways and I'd bet some are very similar.

Comparing the info on TIS should help decipher this.

This retrofit is possible and it has been done before. I can retrofit anything into anything given enough time and money.

[Gentry]

Originally Posted by Nickco43

This retrofit is possible and it has been done before. I can retrofit anything into anything given enough time and money.

I got time and money, to bad for me, you don't live closer
Looks like I am ordering the wheel from ebay for 650 with a dual stage airbag, they asked if I needed three connectors or two, all the pictures I looked at for e90 looked as though they had two connectors for the airbag
and one of these kits to 250 euro.

will the car need to be coded?

[Nickco43]

Originally Posted by Gentry

I got time and money, to bad for me, you don't live closer
Looks like I am ordering the wheel from ebay for 650 with a dual stage airbag, they asked if I needed three connectors or two, all the pictures I looked at for e90 looked as though they had two connectors for the airbag
and one of these kits to 250 euro.

will the car need to be coded?

It is illegal to ship airbags without a hazmat certification. I do not believe coding is required as the steering wheel does not have a module in it.

[Gentry]

Thats worrying, any way to check if the seller has this certification?

[Nickco43]

Originally Posted by Gentry

Thats worrying, any way to check if the seller has this certification?

I would buy a bag locally.

[M335]

Originally Posted by Nickco43

I bet I could do the F series steering wheel retrofit for $600.

Lmao
Good luck

[M335]

Originally Posted by ptpending

are you sure that wheel should be from f10 ? not from f30/f15 ?

F30 won’t physically fit on E9X steering column shaft, ask me how do I know that.

[Nickco43]

Originally Posted by M335

Lmao
Good luck

How do you think I do CIC retrofits for $600? I have connections. To the people I buy parts from a steering wheel is a steering wheel. It does not matter what car it came from they are all prices mostly the same.

[ptpending]

Originally Posted by M335

F30 won’t physically fit on E9X steering column shaft, ask me how do I know that.

thanks, good to know
because there are many wheels from f30 and f15 but f10 wheels are quite rare and pricier

[M335]

Originally Posted by Nickco43

How do you think I do CIC retrofits for $600? I have connections. To the people I buy parts from a steering wheel is a steering wheel. It does not matter what car it came from they are all prices mostly the same.

I understand that you got some hook ups but for average people like me to get retrofit adapter for $250 & for only $350 complete M-sport f10 steering wheel with shifter pedals & air bag isn’t possible.

[M335]

Originally Posted by ptpending

thanks, good to know
because there are many wheels from f30 and f15 but f10 wheels are quite rare and pricier

F15 may work but I’m not 100% sure...
You can probably fit F30 M-sport steering wheel but it’s not direct fit,you have to drill out bigger center hole and make new splines.
BTW I bought Air Bag from eBay & no problem what’s so ever.

[ptpending]

Originally Posted by M335

F15 may work but I’m not 100% sure...
You can probably fit F30 M-sport steering wheel but it’s not direct fit,you have to drill out bigger center hole and make new splines.
BTW I bought Air Bag from eBay & no problem what’s so ever.

f30 f25 f15 f16 have same steering wheel spline pattern on streering column
f10 f06 f07 have another steering wheel spline pattern on streering column

[Gentry]

so f30 spline doesn't match e90 steering column splines?

[Nickco43]

Originally Posted by Gentry

so f30 spline doesn't match e90 steering column splines?

If ptpending said that the wheel fits then it fits. He is one of the few people who knows what he is talking about.

[Gentry]

Thank you, want to make sure before I drive out there to pick one up in LA.