[mob17]

Steve,

Is there any point doing a gearbox adaptations reset a few months after a gearbox oil change if everything seems ok, ie gearchanges? Or should you do one anyway as no harm is done?

[old grey steve]

Originally Posted by mob17

Steve,

Is there any point doing a gearbox adaptations reset a few months after a gearbox oil change if everything seems ok, ie gearchanges? Or should you do one anyway as no harm is done?

Zero harm done Mo, but as we discovered after doing a few sump changes it makes a difference, on cars that have lost nigh on no fluid the differences are small but if your sump and plug have lost say 2 litres of fluid the gearbox would of 'adapted'its behaviour to suit and here especially you'd have to instruct the gearbox to go back to basics by re setting everything from scratch.

Can you re set adaptations say after 4000 miles / 6 moths, yes of course you can the only time you'd walk away from carrying out the procedure is if the car once I doe ted has a gearbox leak. Common sense first says that if you had a car with an isdue you'd first drive the car to feel the issue then (as we do) put the sat in the air to check the underside for fluid loss. Then only then would you Kev on to adaptation reset/gearbox software update.

hey mistryn, how is your transmission? I have bought the kit from this website http://www.allgermanparts.co.uk/ along the filter and oil, i was promised FEBI oil, but VAICO ATF, came and i was assured all is ok, so it has been changed like a year ago, however, after just few weeks, i have developed very harsh or even A HUGE KICK, when transmission was unable to shift when driving it hard in 3rd or 4th gear, so since then I always used to easy on a gas pedal while changes occured and it helped, however, this is not how it is supposed to drive...
now, reading your posts, i am shocked or maybe I haven't notice, and I regret this, but my mechanic also only let it drip overnight and then added new oil, but this method is WRONG!!! you have to have a special TRANSMISSION FLUSH MACHINE in order to get the all oil out because it will never drip all out of there.....
i am actually desperate, that internet advice let me down and even your mechanics are doing it wrong......or maybe I missed it somewhere and you used the machine!!??
also, i am going to send an email to jason hunter at ALL GERMAN PARTS and inquiry about the oil I was sent, instead of ordered FEBI....do you think, i can ask for damages? I cannot find any internet reference for VAICO ATF oil on internet, but i have few bottles left, so I can use it to investigate if it is a good oil or not? THIS IS NO JOKE....TRANSMISSION COST OR ITS REPAIR GOES TO A FEW THOUSANDS.....
i wanna hear your story now, how ur transmission goes....thanks

[tom619]

Take it Steve in Stevenage he'll sort you out.

[old grey steve]

Originally Posted by tom619

Take it Steve in Stevenage he'll sort you out.

Thanks the downside is poor old Martin80k's for Slovakia and advice re what's been done can be a can of worms.

You've got to look at the kit supplied, what oil(as described in MArtin's text) the procedure undertaken the drainage of the fluid the re filling of the gearbox the procedure undertaken while re filling to ensure correct tempreture and fluid circulation while undertaking the re fill, what fluid amount went in to the gear box. You've also got to look at the sump when it was re attatched was it tightened up correctly remember to follow the picutre starting with bolt 1 and working outwards(think tightening a cylinder head)and you'll get the basic idea. Also on the repalcement was the sleave repalced, its a sod to get to involces on the 335d dropping the exhaust to gain access many chose to wipe it clean but if it leaks then you'll lose fluid.

If you're getting a kick when coming down gears/to a hault or are unable to get a decent smooth shift going up/down gears then I'd also ask had the gearbox's adaptations been re set, remember as we've discoved the gearbox needs to be told its got a new filter and new fluid aboard, easist way is to re set the gear box adapataions(via diagnostic only) therefore it reverts back to factory and can adust to the free flowing filter/new fluid. If this persists then you've got to look at issues re the solenoids in the valvebody which are well known.

The other often overlooked issue re transmission involves tempreture if its too hot then there is possably an issue re transmission cooler or in the pas thr clutches have got too hot create slippage causes a build up in heat and will create issues with the fluid and also clutches and the solenoids.

At the same time its wise to re set the engine as well in some cases as of course they do talk to eachother. THe other reason for a kick lies perhaps in an internal gearbox issue where the solenoids have been corrupted.

Got this for you from ZF which is for your 6HP26 gearbox

http://www.zf.com/media/media/docume...28_Catalog.pdf

You can try the ignition key in hit start without touching the footbrake method of re setting(this doesn't do the gearbox by the way but the throttle) and see just out of morbid curiosity it helps a bit.

Martin, transmission isn't something we specialise in I have a damn good specialist for this sort of thing but the above may help you and is from bits'n'pieces I've picked up. Sorry can't be more helpful than posted above.

[mjn77]

Had mine done at 70k miles. New oil and sump/filter. ZF recommend every 45-70k miles depending on your driving style.

I'll be getting mine done again at 120k miles.

steve i have no idea how the whole procedure was done, but the car holds on gears, then it kicks when the shift occurred and as i said before, i had huge kick while speeding at from 3 to 4 or from 4 to 5, when the car could not shift and i had to slow it down, because i though that the transmission is gonna blow up
do you think i can reset adaptations now? i am afraid it can make it worse...i have DIS

to add, i am suffering with another power loss ,similar when the red turbo hose was lose, but this time the hose is supposedly in place, the diagnostics INPA DIS don't show any faults besides the plugs, which has no effect on it, plus, the pressure converter rod is moving as it should. so I guess, it might be maybe small turbo, lack of vacuum, or egr pressure converter, or MAF sensor,,,,but still diagnostics won't show and the boost is just not there, so I am afraid that if I reset adaptations that the transmission will adapt to the weaker power of engine,,,,so better not to do it?

i was also thinking to reflush the fluid with original ZF, which may help, but then mechanic told me that it wont help, and whether I saw somebody fix the engine with changing the oil and that it's the same for transmission and that there is a fault and it's gonna be costly....

[Precision Engineered]

Looking at getting this done on my E92 330D Auto as its just over 100K. Can anyone recommend a garage in the north west (near Burnley) where I can get this done? If only Old Grey Steve were closer lol!!

[tmarshall57]

Darren Woods of Stockport did mine. I provided the sump and oil (from In car motor factors). I booked for a Saturday morning and waited while the work was done. 2 hours labour.

[jackstrath]

guys my cars reaching the 75k mark and id like to get this done , iv read how ever there are 2 gearboxs in the 335d's (i guess pre lci and post lci)

i have a 2007 E91 335D this kit below the correct one ? (zf6hp26)
http://www.incarmotorfactors.co.uk/e...26-28osk0.html

which is tipcal now out of stock if anyone knows anywhere else to get?

[old grey steve]

Originally Posted by Precision Engineered

Looking at getting this done on my E92 330D Auto as its just over 100K. Can anyone recommend a garage in the north west (near Burnley) where I can get this done? If only Old Grey Steve were closer lol!!

Burnley.. That's up north in it no chance but to be fair there are places around I'm sure that can tackle the job, like Darren Wood

Originally Posted by tmarshall57

Darren Woods of Stockport did mine. I provided the sump and oil (from In car motor factors). I booked for a Saturday morning and waited while the work was done. 2 hours labour.

Good time that, did they change the sleeve as well?

[old grey steve]

Originally Posted by jackstrath

guys my cars reaching the 75k mark and id like to get this done , iv read how ever there are 2 gearboxs in the 335d's (i guess pre lci and post lci)

i have a 2007 E91 335D this kit below the correct one ? (zf6hp26)
http://www.incarmotorfactors.co.uk/e...26-28osk0.html

which is tipcal now out of stock if anyone knows anywhere else to get?

You can now buy a genuine ZF kit directly from EuroCarParts, from memory the end code ends in 58K or 59K, when you call them and ask they'll probably have to search for it but trust me they stock it.

[tmarshall57]

Originally Posted by old grey steve

Burnley.. That's up north in it no chance but to be fair there are places around I'm sure that can tackle the job, like Darren Wood

Good time that, did they change the sleeve as well?

Yes - Burnley is well up north!

Also yes - DW did replace the mechatronics sleeve also.

[Jim1985]

I enquired with Darren Wood and the pricing was very competitive and they seemed keen that I did it. I mention that because I also enquired with Bowker BMW in Blackburn and along with wanting to charge the best part of £600, they also responded to the enquiry like I'd asked them to strip naked.

[tom619]

Originally Posted by mob17

Steve,

Is there any point doing a gearbox adaptations reset a few months after a gearbox oil change if everything seems ok, ie gearchanges? Or should you do one anyway as no harm is done?

How do you do the gearbox adaptation reset?

Steve did my gearbox at 77k in December and it's been great since

[tmarshall57]

Originally Posted by tom619

How do you do the gearbox adaptation reset?

Steve did my gearbox at 77k in December and it's been great since

INPA will enable the adaptations to be reset. Very simple job.

[old grey steve]

Originally Posted by tmarshall57

Yes - Burnley is well up north!

Also yes - DW did replace the mechatronics sleeve also.

I'd of fully expected them to do the plug as well as they are well known for their thoroughness and IMO wouldn't of overlooked it.

[old grey steve]

Originally Posted by tom619

How do you do the gearbox adaptation reset?

Steve did my gearbox at 77k in December and it's been great since

Good to hear it's as we've discovered a good exercise to re set the adaptations it's as we've discovered is good housekeeping, when we first started doing these gearbox services to be fair as it wasn't mentioned or kind of openly recommended as part of the routine we didn't do, but we just happened to ask the question to ourselves some time ago and dove a car we'd done post the service then just as an experiment with the same car chose to re set the adaptations and re drive it then the penny dropped, we'd re set adaptations on gearbox's in the past for sure but hadn't exploited the procedure when fluid/sump was changed.

We learnt and no adopt this procedure standard for all our gesrbox services now.

[Precision Engineered]

Originally Posted by Jim1985

I enquired with Darren Wood and the pricing was very competitive and they seemed keen that I did it. I mention that because I also enquired with Bowker BMW in Blackburn and along with wanting to charge the best part of £600, they also responded to the enquiry like I'd asked them to strip naked.

To be honest I visited Bowker Blackburn for some work and wasn't particularly amazed with their attitude. They basically carried out a service (which took longer than expected), found some issues with the car (and quoted me lots to fix) and when I either quizzed for more info on the issues or asked for them to raise a warranty claim they just never got back to me.

Came across as a typical dealer - only interested in big spenders.

I'll certainly be checking out Darren Wood at Stockport for anything that doesn't involve a stamp in the book.

[Rich_D]

I've just had my 330d done by this place in Preston >>> http://automaticgearboxrepairs.com/

Cost me £325 all in for parts & labour, using genuine ZF stuff and that was with the uprated metal (Land Rover) sump & filter, it's £300 if you have the standard plastic one.

Works out cheaper for them to supply & fit than it would for me to source the parts separately, great price IMO.

[Precision Engineered]

Originally Posted by Rich_D

I've just had my 330d done by this place in Preston >>> http://automaticgearboxrepairs.com/

Cost me £325 all in for parts & labour, using genuine ZF stuff and that was with the uprated metal (Land Rover) sump & filter, it's £300 if you have the standard plastic one.

Works out cheaper for them to supply & fit than it would for me to source the parts separately, great price IMO.

Did they carry out the associated re-calibration (software) as part of that work?