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      06-13-2006, 10:44 PM   #1
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Just replaced my 2nd run flat in 4 days..

I guess the insurance package on the tires/wheels has paid off.

I brought my car in last friday to have the front tire replaced after it picked up a nail. And today Im driving and see a red icon flash on the dash, i thought it was regarding the oil, but suspected it could be a tire problem. I parked and saw a nasty piece of metal sticking out of the tire, i dont even know what it was.

Anyway, had the car towed to the dealer, hopefully i can pick it up tomorow.

Anyone know how much the pirelli euphoria run flats go for a pop?
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      06-13-2006, 11:47 PM   #2
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too much considering that they have horrible grip for a 180 treadwear tire

why have it towed with the runflats? couldn't you just drive it there and avoid potential towing damage (too much soft aluminum under the cars these days, very easy for a careless driver to wreck the suspension)
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Now that's bad luck having 2 in 4 days!!!
Yeah, why did you have the car towed?
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What a world. We have our cars towed to the dealer if we get a flat. Replace the tire @ $250 minimum. If they have them in stock. Pirelli rfts? Or do you have to settle for a mix w/ Bridgestone, which seems to have a monopoly sweetheart deal. Tire insurance! What a concept, now we cough up $100+/year and have to be thankful for it, when before a simple $10 repair would do. Anyone happy with just replacing one tire when you have 10k on the others?
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Sorry about the lack of details, i needed to get back to watching the Heat game.

The icon came up on the dash just a mile away from the school where Im taking a class. I had at test at 6pm and it was basically 5 min til 6 so after I parked I ran to the classroom and let my professor know about the situation, he let me handle it outside. I called the BMW Roadside, they sent a tow truck. Since i had to have someone at my car while the tow truck arrived, my dad came by to make sure they found the car and he gave them a key so that I could get in my test.

The metal object that got stuck in my tire... I have no idea what it was. And all i could see of it was a about a 1/2 inch thick, 1 inch long piece of flat metal that was embedded nicely into the edge of the tire (the outermost part that would touch the ground). And the tire was noticeable flatter when I looked at it. My dad said it looked like some kind of nail when he saw it.
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What a world. We have our cars towed to the dealer if we get a flat. Replace the tire @ $250 minimum. If they have them in stock. Pirelli rfts? Or do you have to settle for a mix w/ Bridgestone, which seems to have a monopoly sweetheart deal. Tire insurance! What a concept, now we cough up $100+/year and have to be thankful for it, when before a simple $10 repair would do. Anyone happy with just replacing one tire when you have 10k on the others?
Pretty amazing, all so that we can have the piece of mind not worrying about a blowout.
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Sorry about the lack of details, i needed to get back to watching the Heat game.

The icon came up on the dash just a mile away from the school where Im taking a class. I had at test at 6pm and it was basically 5 min til 6 so after I parked I ran to the classroom and let my professor know about the situation, he let me handle it outside. I called the BMW Roadside, they sent a tow truck. Since i had to have someone at my car while the tow truck arrived, my dad came by to make sure they found the car and he gave them a key so that I could get in my test.

The metal object that got stuck in my tire... I have no idea what it was. And all i could see of it was a about a 1/2 inch thick, 1 inch long piece of flat metal that was embedded nicely into the edge of the tire (the outermost part that would touch the ground). And the tire was noticeable flatter when I looked at it. My dad said it looked like some kind of nail when he saw it.

so instead of just driving it you called a towtruck and had your dad come wait by your car?

how bout those heat though
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      06-14-2006, 01:10 AM   #9
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so instead of just driving it you called a towtruck and had your dad come wait by your car?

how bout those heat though
yepp, i made the decision in the heat of the moment, I couldnt be late for the exam and with the tire losing air as rapidly as it was, instead of worrying about whether or not I would be able to drive to the dealer in an hour my dad was a few minutes away and helped out.
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Keep in mind that this isn't really a run-flat problem. If you had non run-flats the problems still would have happened and you would had no choice (with no spare) and wouldn't have made it the mile to class at all.
Sounds as if you tires did what they are supposed to do.
On my other run flat car (Corvette) the Goodyear warranty repairs or replaces any tire for any reason for the first 12 months / 12,000 miles. Said it on the tire warranty card that came with the car. Be nice if all tire manufactures did the same thing.
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too much considering that they have horrible grip for a 180 treadwear tire

why have it towed with the runflats? couldn't you just drive it there and avoid potential towing damage (too much soft aluminum under the cars these days, very easy for a careless driver to wreck the suspension)
I like your point, it is after all RFT so use it as intended. If if help, just pull the thing (nail) out and drive to the dealer.
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I picked up my new 325 Monday. Tuesday morning, I had a nail in one of the tires. RFTs worked exactly as they are supposed to. I got the flat tire warning on my Idrive screen and I drove it to the dealer. My SA told me that as long as the nail was not in one of the sidewalls, they can plug it. They plugged it and it is performing well. I told him that I had heard you could not plug RFTs. He said that was true on the original generation of RFTs, but the newer ones repair very well as long as there is no problem with the sidewalls. Only time will tell I guess, but it beats the hell out spending $250 for a new tire!
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I picked up my new 325 Monday. Tuesday morning, I had a nail in one of the tires. RFTs worked exactly as they are supposed to. I got the flat tire warning on my Idrive screen and I drove it to the dealer. My SA told me that as long as the nail was not in one of the sidewalls, they can plug it. They plugged it and it is performing well. I told him that I had heard you could not plug RFTs. He said that was true on the original generation of RFTs, but the newer ones repair very well as long as there is no problem with the sidewalls. Only time will tell I guess, but it beats the hell out spending $250 for a new tire!
I agreed, if you read about RFT, it is all about the side wall support. so if you have nail in the middle section in the tread, plug should work. no reason to throw away a brand new tire that has a nail in the middle of its tread. If you throw it away, let me know and I will come by and pick it up from you, I will not charge you a disposal fee
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If we can plug rfts then I would suggest everyone go to WalMart or equivalent and buy themselves a plug kit -- just a little tool like a screwdriver with a hook that lets you push the plug strip in and pull the tool out, leaving the plug inside. Easy as pie. Then just reinflate and away you go. Saves extreme hassle of finding tire shop that can deal with runflats and the very difficult bead. If nothing else, saves runflat from damage from driving on it deflated, go to dealer and have them do a proper fix if need be.
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why did you tow it if you have runflats...

isnt that the whole idea?
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I bought a plug kit ($5 from Pep Boys) and a cheap pair of pliers (to pull out the offending nail).

So long as it's not in the sidewall, I'm good. Pull the nail out, drive to a gas station with air, fix it, inflate it and drive away.

Ditto the poster above, don't throw your old RFTs away. I'll pay you $50 per 18" er.
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SteveMD,

Is the plug kit easy to use and is it as safe as having the dealer plug it for you? I think I want to get one of these, but I was looking for more info about them. You wouldn't have a link to the manufacter's website or anything, would you?

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I've plugged before too,

it's really easy,


you ream out the hole with a reaming tool (in the plug kit)

next you put a little rubber thing that resembles a slim jim into a tool (basically a screwdriver with an eyelet on the end) and jam it into the hole, leaving a bit exposed which you cut off, inflate and go.
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Is it just me, or does anyone else not feel safe driving at high speeds with a "plugged" RFT? I know that money is always a factor, but mixing and matching tires, plugging used rubber, and salvaging the only thing that keeps your 40K car off the pavement seems kind of frightening at time.
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Is it just me, or does anyone else not feel safe driving at high speeds with a "plugged" RFT? I know that money is always a factor, but mixing and matching tires, plugging used rubber, and salvaging the only thing that keeps your 40K car off the pavement seems kind of frightening at time.

I've run on plugged non run flats before,


it's a non issue.
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I've run on plugged RFT in my Z4 before and everything was fine. The way I figure it, if the plug fails, I'll have a "flat", which in a RFT won't be anything more than a light on my dashboard :-) I'd be more nervous about running on a NON Run Flat with a plug.

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