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      12-25-2018, 06:50 PM   #1
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Having difficulty setting up my ISTA P

I've obtained ISTA D and ISTA P as a package type thing and my ISTA D is running perfectly well.

My issue is with ISTA P.

To launch ISTA P I use ISTA P loader and choose the K+DCAN ICOM Emulator and then BMW. Then when I try to launch a session I get error "No ISTA/P server on whioch a session can be started was found. Try again later". If I go in manual session I see my PC name and the red X disabled.

I'm not sure if I should be seeing any ICOM pop up in iTool Radar, but ther isn't any even whedn the ICOM Emulator is run.

I've only found one related thread online and the issue ended up being the user's faulty ICOM cable. But I'm using K+DCAN and it works fine with ISTA D.

So I'm really at an end here. The user guide I have to installed the software I follow until along until I hit the iTool radar part where even with the emulator run my ICOM don't show up.

Yeah, if anyone knows what I'm talking about or using these software any help appreciated.
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I've obtained ISTA D and ISTA P as a package type thing and my ISTA D is running perfectly well.

My issue is with ISTA P.

To launch ISTA P I use ISTA P loader and choose the K+DCAN ICOM Emulator and then BMW. Then when I try to launch a session I get error "No ISTA/P server on whioch a session can be started was found. Try again later". If I go in manual session I see my PC name and the red X disabled.

I'm not sure if I should be seeing any ICOM pop up in iTool Radar, but ther isn't any even whedn the ICOM Emulator is run.

I've only found one related thread online and the issue ended up being the user's faulty ICOM cable. But I'm using K+DCAN and it works fine with ISTA D.

So I'm really at an end here. The user guide I have to installed the software I follow until along until I hit the iTool radar part where even with the emulator run my ICOM don't show up.

Yeah, if anyone knows what I'm talking about or using these software any help appreciated.
ISTA P is only really useful in certain circumstances. What exactly are you attempting to do? You may be better off using BMW Standard Tools (winkfp and NCS Expert) for your programming / coding needs.
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ISTA P is only really useful in certain circumstances. What exactly are you attempting to do? You may be better off using BMW Standard Tools (winkfp and NCS Expert) for your programming / coding needs.
I wanted ISTA P as it was my understanding it is much better since it does everything you could need in terms of coding and it has a easy to use GUI.
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ISTA P is only really useful in certain circumstances. What exactly are you attempting to do? You may be better off using BMW Standard Tools (winkfp and NCS Expert) for your programming / coding needs.
I wanted ISTA P as it was my understanding it is much better since it does everything you could need in terms of coding and it has a easy to use GUI.
I don't think you'd find many people that agree with that.

Winkfp and NCS is far more versatile.

ISTA P with K+DCAN is a waste of time in my opinion.

If you insist on ISTA P with the ISTA loader the K+DCAN cable should appear in connection manager as an emulated ICOM.
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I don't think you'd find many people that agree with that.

Winkfp and NCS is far more versatile.

ISTA P with K+DCAN is a waste of time in my opinion.

If you insist on ISTA P with the ISTA loader the K+DCAN cable should appear in connection manager as an emulated ICOM.
Hmmm ok I'll keep that in note. I always thought ISTA P was superior since it was the new software to replace all the old one for programming?

Yeah I would still like to get ISTA P going since I'm sure my issue is something small. And already have all the data transferred.

Sorry by connection manager, you mean somewhere under ISTA P or in iTool Radar?

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I don't think you'd find many people that agree with that.

Winkfp and NCS is far more versatile.

ISTA P with K+DCAN is a waste of time in my opinion.

If you insist on ISTA P with the ISTA loader the K+DCAN cable should appear in connection manager as an emulated ICOM.
Hmmm ok I'll keep that in note. I always thought ISTA P was superior since it was the new software to replace all the old one for programming?

Yeah I would still like to get ISTA P going since I'm sure my issue is something small. And already have all the data transferred.

Sorry by connection manager, you mean somewhere under ISTA P or in iTool Radar?
BMW Standard Tools are far more powerful. They are a factory toolkit rather than ISTA which is given to dealers.

Anyway, this is a very good guide. Watch it and double check your setup.

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BMW Standard Tools are far more powerful. They are a factory toolkit rather than ISTA which is given to dealers.

Anyway, this is a very good guide. Watch it and double check your setup.
Ahh ok gotcha, I didn't know factory still used the older software.

I've watched the video before. Took another watch and it still gives me same error. I hadn't enabled my USB network adapter so I thought that would have been it but nada.
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BMW Standard Tools are far more powerful. They are a factory toolkit rather than ISTA which is given to dealers.

Anyway, this is a very good guide. Watch it and double check your setup.
Ahh ok gotcha, I didn't know factory still used the older software.

I've watched the video before. Took another watch and it still gives me same error. I hadn't enabled my USB network adapter so I thought that would have been it but nada.
It was factory tools for the E chassis which is now obsolete. But it's the best software out there.

For new generations (F, G, I) there is Esys. ISTA+ would be the dealer equivalent.

Anyway, apply the ISTA P fix and it should work:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YJN...w?usp=drivesdk
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It was factory tools for the E chassis which is now obsolete. But it's the best software out there.

For new generations (F, G, I) there is Esys. ISTA+ would be the dealer equivalent.

Anyway, apply the ISTA P fix and it should work:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YJN...w?usp=drivesdk
Holy shit thanks so much that works! How come? Or like what's the source on that file/fix?

My WSM folder was also empty.

I got the software package from a post in the F series and can't find that post anymore but it was extremely popular. No one mentioned issue with ISTA P.
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It was factory tools for the E chassis which is now obsolete. But it's the best software out there.

For new generations (F, G, I) there is Esys. ISTA+ would be the dealer equivalent.

Anyway, apply the ISTA P fix and it should work:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YJN...w?usp=drivesdk
Holy shit thanks so much that works! How come? Or like what's the source on that file/fix?

My WSM folder was also empty.

I got the software package from a post in the F series and can't find that post anymore but it was extremely popular. No one mentioned issue with ISTA P.
It's a common problem. Not my fix, just well known.

Hope ISTA-P goes well for you.
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It's a common problem. Not my fix, just well known.

Hope ISTA-P goes well for you.
Okok.

Thanks, I'll dig into it deeper tomorrow.

Since you seem to know a bit more than me, with ISTA-P is something like disabling daytime rear taillights doable?
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It's a common problem. Not my fix, just well known.

Hope ISTA-P goes well for you.
Okok.

Thanks, I'll dig into it deeper tomorrow.

Since you seem to know a bit more than me, with ISTA-P is something like disabling daytime rear taillights doable?
I don't think so. ISTA P doesn't really do specific FSW PSW Coding. You'd need NCS Expert or maybe Carly can do it.
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I don't think so. ISTA P doesn't really do specific FSW PSW Coding. You'd need NCS Expert or maybe Carly can do it.
Ah ok, I thought ISTA P was kind of like a Carly type thing but dealer software.

I guess I'll look into the other coding software.
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https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...-P-actually-do

Some comment on ista p in the above link.

Its has been described here is as and all or nothing program for
updating the entire car or for module replacement programing at
the dealership. Precautions like using a large power supply attached
while programming and using the icom cable seem to be mandatory.

I don't know if later versions over come some of these problems or not.

The Inpa suite is actually a BMW Engineering Tool used to
manipulate things on a very direct and basic level yet still
have an interface that some humans can understand.
Mostly German Humans.
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ISTA/P is overkill for just about anything you'll ever want or need to do on a E series. Have a F or G series, I can see the need then. Hell, in the time it takes to download and install ISTA/P, you can download Standard Tools with daten, install it, and completely code a car and probably update any modules as well.
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I installed ISTA-P 3.65.2 and I'm getting a parsing error when launching

C: Windows\Microsoft.net\Framework\v2.0.50727\config\ machine.config
Parse returned error 0xC00CE556

Any help would be really appreciated. I'm a total newbie at this but I have learned tons in the past 3 days trying to do this.
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when you get a method or parsing error I would look
at the Microsoft C++ programs and make sure you have
all of them instaled. Go to Microsoft to find the full install.

Also I believe your suppose to have netframework 4.7 or above.
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