[ctuna]

The only thing the K/D can cables can't do is the Head Unit
changes from stereo to Hi Fi to Logic 7 or visa versa.
As you have said the Icom A is suppose to work yet I have
had people with Icoms say they have to plug in there Most Bus
Don't know if this is only with Ista p or NCS expert to.
connection from there Icom before they can proceed with the
stereo system changes. I don't know if this is true.

The link I posted seems to suggest that a true Icom has memory buffering
and a speedier data rate.

The new Bimmergeeks blog about there super cable says its better but only 10 percent faster.

[Sensible_]

Originally Posted by ctuna

The only thing the K/D can cables can't do is the Head Unit
changes from stereo to Hi Fi to Logic 7 or visa versa.
As you have said the Icom A is suppose to work yet I have
had people with Icoms say they have to plug in there Most Bus
Don't know if this is only with Ista p or NCS expert to.
connection from there Icom before they can proceed with the
stereo system changes. I don't know if this is true.

The link I posted seems to suggest that a true Icom has memory buffering
and a speedier data rate.

The new Bimmergeeks blog about there super cable says its better but only 10 percent faster.

But there are posts on this forum which say people have coded the 2URAD with A BimmerGeeks K+DCAN cable....

So some cables must work.

[Hiroyue]

So it looks like consensus is as far as we all know Bimmergeeks cables lean towards being somewhat fully capable and are some of the best k+dcan cables, being able to read the radio module which most others have issues. I’m going the route of a icom because I plan on getting a f chassis within a year or two and some of my family has f chassis's so it will come in handy.

[ctuna]

You can use a ethernet cable with a F series basically.

[ctuna]

Its the year of the car or the transition to D can from k can that is
the problem. You can have a cheap d/k can cable on a 06 and do anything
to it . After 3/07 when they went to D which seems o be where the problem seems to lie, though its a nebulous area. Also not sure if the Head Units have something to do with it.

[Hotter]

Originally Posted by Sensible_

You must understand not all DCAN cables are made equal. I'd imagine the BCables cable are just like all the others.

Also, the software is nothing to do with them. They are repackaging BMW spec software like everyone else. Also, there are advising DIS on their website. This software is 10years + out of date....replaced by ISTA D

I don't know any other cable with the same build quality and firmware version as used by BimmerGeeks. I'd send BimmerGeeks a message and ask. It's far cheaper than an ICOM.

Please update us about what BimmerGeeks say. I cant read/code 2URAD too.

[bluewater328]

Originally Posted by ctuna

Also we know you can't change to 676 from base or I suppose
to L7 with a pro radio using a K/d can cable. But is it written
in stone the date where 676 change is not possible is 3/07 build where they
went to D can from K can. And is just a speed and memory problem?

You CAN change from base to $676 with a K+DCAN...I've done it. 2011 E90 328i with base stereo. Or maybe I'm misunderstanding the statement.

[ctuna]

Lots of people reported they couldn't.

one of many

https://www.e90post.com/forums/showt...&highlight=676

Do you have a bimmergeeks.net cable?

[el_fuchila]

Originally Posted by ctuna

Lots of people reported they couldn't.

one of many

https://www.e90post.com/forums/showt...&highlight=676

Do you have a bimmergeeks.net cable?

This is interesting.

I will check next time I go to a shop to fix a car. I use an ICOM, but connecting the K-Dcan cable won't take long.

[bluewater328]

Originally Posted by ctuna

Lots of people reported they couldn't.

one of many

https://www.e90post.com/forums/showt...&highlight=676

Do you have a bimmergeeks.net cable?

Yes, mine is from bimmergeeks. Just their standard Pro cable, not elite or special edition.

[ctuna]

I wonder if we could get a consensus on the Bimmergeeks
cable working for this or confirmation from Bimmergeeks.
Changing the stereo options that is.
The thing the tout about there cable is speed and stability.

[bluewater328]

Originally Posted by ctuna

I wonder if we could get a consensus on the Bimmergeeks
cable working for this or confirmation from Bimmergeeks.
Changing the stereo options that is.
The thing the tout about there cable is speed and stability.

I guess I'll have to take some time and go back in. But I mean, proof is in the picture (below). Pretty much walked through the steps in the main thread — for me the wait time to let it truly get out of standby mode (to the closest to full off that BMW's get) was key. I had a couple of fails, but the time I let it rest overnight was the one that worked.

2011 BMW E90 328i LCI
Build date: 3/2010
Radio build date: 3/2011 (warranty replace): Base audio-No tweeters/4"front door mids/4"rear mids only/6" underseat woofers; no iDrive, Bluetooth (phone only); SOS feature; Sirius option;

Coded with:
WIndowsXP laptop (Dell Latitude D630) - no emulator
Bimmergeeks Pro K+DCAN cable (circa 5/2018)
Bimmergeeks Standard Tools

[ctuna]

Regarding you display of the fact hi fi is working is that another
nickt active parameter that must be changed?
I can never get that to display on my radio through the service
menu.

MY_INFO_RAD2
nicht_aktiv
V_INFO_RAD2
nicht_aktiv
Like these last parameters in the Rad file must be
aktiv for this to work.

I have an 06 so no trouble changng Rad parameters with
just a K can cable.

[bluewater328]

Originally Posted by ctuna

Regarding you display of the fact hi fi is working is that another
nickt active parameter that must be changed?
I can never get that to display on my radio through the service
menu.

MY_INFO_RAD2
nicht_aktiv
V_INFO_RAD2
nicht_aktiv
Like these last parameters in the Rad file must be
aktiv for this to work.

I have an 06 so no trouble changng Rad parameters with
just a K can cable.

It's been a bit, but I do remember that for me it was changing the VO to $676, making sure the old code was out (it comes back as its a core code, I believe); and then programming the appropriate modules. So I don't believe I went in there to specifically code much -- still want to spend some time working with wert or whatever for the stock rear backup level.

If they give me my father's day gift of garage-time, I'll go check my 2URAD vs those items and try to confirm your findings. But again, I didn't do much more that VO changes, IIRC.

[bluewater328]

ctuna

This is actually what I did. I will still try and read out my 2URAD so we can get specific, but this was it:

https://www.e90post.com/forums/showp...4&postcount=17


haha, turns out we had this discussion a year ago.

[Hotter]

Originally Posted by bluewater328

I guess I'll have to take some time and go back in. But I mean, proof is in the picture (below). Pretty much walked through the steps in the main thread — for me the wait time to let it truly get out of standby mode (to the closest to full off that BMW's get) was key. I had a couple of fails, but the time I let it rest overnight was the one that worked.

2011 BMW E90 328i LCI
Build date: 3/2010
Radio build date: 3/2011 (warranty replace): Base audio-No tweeters/4"front door mids/4"rear mids only/6" underseat woofers; no iDrive, Bluetooth (phone only); SOS feature; Sirius option;

Coded with:
WIndowsXP laptop (Dell Latitude D630) - no emulator
Bimmergeeks Pro K+DCAN cable (circa 5/2018)
Bimmergeeks Standard Tools

Some radios can be coded with K-DCAN cable so that is not a prof that bimmergeeks cabel work for all. Usualy E92 2009+ 2URAD is not codeable with ebay cable at least. E90 might be codeable.

[bluewater328]

Originally Posted by Hotter

Some radios can be coded with K-DCAN cable so that is not a prof that bimmergeeks cabel work for all. Usualy E92 2009+ 2URAD is not codeable with ebay cable at least. E90 might be codeable.

That's sort of a weird statement. It DOES confirm that with my setup or similar it can work. If it doesn't proof for E92, fine, I suppose. That's why I put all my data up there, so it can be aggregated.

But I find it hard to believe that the E92 would have such a different 2URAD setup when the models share almost everything else in every other module.

EDIT: To be fair, there is a difference between EU/US/et al with the 2RAD vs 2URAD, so maybe that.

Perhaps we should be looking at radio production dates as a better indicator, or what firmware is in the car? Have people tried getting their cars updated and had different results? I think I have an advantage having the last model year, plus I know that all my firmware is the latest (since dealer did it for me in 2016 or 2017 and rechecked last year).

[ctuna]

They started integrating some of the stuff of the offboard modules
into the pro radio at some point. USB , Sat , Dab and bluetooth.
In Europe they have some versions that don't have a Most Bus.
Not clear if the D/K can not being able to change the radio started
with the 3/07 change to D can or sometime later .
I thought Blue water has a 2011.

[Hotter]

Originally Posted by bluewater328

EDIT: To be fair, there is a difference between EU/US/et al with the 2RAD vs 2URAD, so maybe that.

Perhaps we should be looking at radio production dates as a better indicator, or what firmware is in the car? Have people tried getting their cars updated and had different results? I think I have an advantage having the last model year, plus I know that all my firmware is the latest (since dealer did it for me in 2016 or 2017 and rechecked last year).

Is you radio 2URAD or 2RAD? What is software version of it and user information in INPA?

Ok, I will give more details about my car and radio also:
E92 2009 328i Pre-LCI

Not able to read/code with:
Windows10
K+DCAN cable (from ebay)
Bimmergeeks Standard Tools + Bimmergeeks Daten



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