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11-20-2018, 03:58 PM | #23 |
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Same here. I don't know why that oil is almost never mentioned! It's LL01 spec, great viscosity for any environment and good pricing.
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11-20-2018, 04:28 PM | #26 |
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Yeah and by that logic, one should never change their transmission fluid either since it is "lifetime" fluid.
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11-20-2018, 04:34 PM | #27 | |
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Yeah well owners manual have info that is to benefit BMW in a lot of different ways and often is has nothing to do with what is best or what the engineers would decide to have in it. Oil choices are made for lot's of reasons (meeting fuel mileage standards, lowering cost of ownership numbers, etc) that have nothing to do with what is the best for performance. Lot's of things change when you start adding power so recommended service intervals should change as well. The LL (long life) spec is just that, it's test created to ensure the oil meets the test specs so that the oil can survive the BMW CBS oil change intervals. But yeah if you are stock feel free to follow it, and if you have an auto let me know how that ATF looks past 100,000 miles.
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11-20-2018, 07:03 PM | #29 |
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There is an entire thread on here of what oil to use for the N54, just look there if your curious
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11-22-2018, 11:10 AM | #32 |
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my car is 2011 335I xdrive too and my fuel pump failed at 30k miles and ofhg leaked which I did myself and last month the coolant reservoir leaked at 51k miles.
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11-23-2018, 09:54 AM | #33 |
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Anytime you highly modify a vehicle you are making things complicated. But like I said, if you are staying stock and want to follow the owners manual then have at it, no one is stopping you. But to try an argue that the owners manual is always right, is just silly.
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11-23-2018, 12:57 PM | #34 | |
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So i understand what you are saying but it just does not apply here. Companies spend a fortune getting licensing from BMW to sell the LL-01 spec. There is so much scientific work in the background and to put it all down and say it means nothing ... There are alot of nonsense things from the manual but oil spec is not one. |
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11-23-2018, 05:22 PM | #35 | |
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Uh, he owns a 330i already and has been here a while and he has been eyeing a 335i for a at least a year as far as I can see. As for people usually keeping it simple at the start, that is another one of your baseless opinions as many people mod their cars almost immediately. This is a car forum and I can assure you most come here initially for two reasons and that is to find mods or to find a fix to a problem they have. Also, you have no idea what the test to meet the LL01 spec is or what it cost to complete those test to get the certification. And I never said the recommended oil spec is nonsense, it's just a recommendation that is given for bean counting reasons, regulatory reasons, and liability reasons.
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11-23-2018, 09:59 PM | #36 |
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I really don't see the point of buying a 335i and keeping it stock. Assuming the original owner(s) did which I doubt. Unlike NA cars, turbo cars beg to be modded. Reliability is not synonymous with the N54. So you might as well go town with mods. I mean if you have to mutter a prayer each time you start it up, at least you have 450hp underneath that may or may not show up.
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I agree almost all fluid intervals by BMW is really dumb, except brake fluid. But the actual fluid specs that's not something I would change. There are no reasons to not get LL01. It's like the same price as non LL01 oil. |
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11-26-2018, 11:02 AM | #38 | |
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A3/B4 should be good
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11-29-2018, 10:24 AM | #42 |
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Purchased one! Heres the link to my other post if you'd like to check it out! Thanks for all the replies everyone, very helpful.
https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1560084 |
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11-29-2018, 10:31 AM | #43 | |
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But I had a discussion over the week on BITOG forums and they say BMW LL01 isn't just for longer OCI, well I mean yes and no, but like LL01 oils are just better quality overall and better shearing protection to. Like the Mobil 1 I keep reading that it is terrible in terms of shearing. But if you say you no problems then I don't know. |
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11-29-2018, 10:59 AM | #44 |
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You can read what you want there but I doubt you are looking at factual data. For me, I have been using it and testing it for over 10 years in two different highly modified turbocharged vehicles and the viscosity has always held up in comparison to other oils I have ran and tested. If there was shear, you would see that in the drop in viscosity. I'm not saying others suck, because I have ran Rotella T6, Castrol Edge 0W-40 and it tested fine as well. But the M1 has just done a bit better so I stick with it.
I mean go run the OEM oil for a couple of changes, get it tested, then go run Mobil1 0W-40 for a couple and then test and compare, you will see.
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