335xi vs Mercedes C43 AMG

Hunter3 · 09-11-2018, 08:34 PM

What's up guys sitting here at dinner with some of my buddies and we're talking about who's car is faster. My buddy has a 2017 Mercedes C43 AMG and the car is fast no doubt about it. I have a 2013 E92 335xi with FMIC, charger pipe, downpipe and JB4 running map 2. Now obviously we haven't done it yet or else I wouldn't be posting but what do you you guys think who is winning ? I honestly think he has no chance but I don't wana be bias so I'm asking what you guys think.

WeekendWarriorz · 09-11-2018, 09:03 PM

Do you have e85 near you, map 7 and e30-e40 will give you the best chance. and do a 30 roll in 2nd gear or 50 roll in 3rd gear, if you're doing a dig turn off DTC completely, put the car in 2nd gear and brake boost launch from 3k rpm. Make sure you don't hit the kickdown. You will r@PE HIM from a dig no doubt. Do some practice, and when roll racing shift at 5500rpm, good luck! Take videos and post.

Soden82 · 09-11-2018, 10:25 PM

What's on his car?

Our friend has a c43 amg with downpipes exhaust and custom dyno tune. I haven't raced him but my friend in his m235i beat him by 5 cars. He has fbo and custom Bef from Enzo

dpark · 09-11-2018, 10:46 PM

Should go in your favour, depending on the length. With your mods and tune, power difference will be minimal, but you have the advantage of being roughly 500lbs lighter.

From a dig to 60mph, could go either way. Beyond that, it should swing in your favour.

Hunter3 · 09-12-2018, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by WeekendWarriorz

Do you have e85 near you, map 7 and e30-e40 will give you the best chance. and do a 30 roll in 2nd gear or 50 roll in 3rd gear, if you're doing a dig turn off DTC completely, put the car in 2nd gear and brake boost launch from 3k rpm. Make sure you don't hit the kickdown. You will r@PE HIM from a dig no doubt. Do some practice, and when roll racing shift at 5500rpm, good luck! Take videos and post.

I thought map 5 was the best for a mix ? I haven't really researched it that much but something I definitely want to do. Can you suggest how much to put in so I have no issues ? Like can I fill up until there's a quarter tank left of 93 octane and fill the rest with E85 ? Also why shift so early I thought peak power is optimal to shift at around 6500 rpm right before redline

Hunter3 · 09-12-2018, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Soden82

What's on his car?

Our friend has a c43 amg with downpipes exhaust and custom dyno tune. I haven't raced him but my friend in his m235i beat him by 5 cars. He has fbo and custom Bef from Enzo

I should have clarified he is completely stock it's a lease lol and really 235 had him by that much ?? Those things are fast didn't realize that fast since I've raced a few and beat them fairly easily

WeekendWarriorz · 09-12-2018, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by WeekendWarriorz

Do you have e85 near you, map 7 and e30-e40 will give you the best chance. and do a 30 roll in 2nd gear or 50 roll in 3rd gear, if you're doing a dig turn off DTC completely, put the car in 2nd gear and brake boost launch from 3k rpm. Make sure you don't hit the kickdown. You will r@PE HIM from a dig no doubt. Do some practice, and when roll racing shift at 5500rpm, good luck! Take videos and post.

I thought map 5 was the best for a mix ? I haven't really researched it that much but something I definitely want to do. Can you suggest how much to put in so I have no issues ? Like can I fill up until there's a quarter tank left of 93 octane and fill the rest with E85 ? Also why shift so early I thought peak power is optimal to shift at around 6500 rpm right before redline

Map 7 is the fastest map and requires either 100 octane or an e30+ mix, with low gas put in 2 Gallons of e85 and 3 gallons of 93. And peak performance is 5500rpm, 6500 is too high and the turbo is out of its efficiency range for e series N55

Turbod · 09-12-2018, 01:33 PM

I would say to 60 mph would depend on his traction. To the 1/4 mile will depend on your fuel and if you're having timing corrections. On 92 octane I could only trap 104 mph on the stock turbo. 109 mph is a pretty big gap. If you add some ethanol to the tank (E30) I think you will win. If you run pump gas I think you will lose.

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Hunter3 · 09-12-2018, 08:11 PM

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I would say to 60 mph would depend on his traction. To the 1/4 mile will depend on your fuel and if you're having timing corrections. On 92 octane I could only trap 104 mph on the stock turbo. 109 mph is a pretty big gap. If you add some ethanol to the tank (E30) I think you will win. If you run pump gas I think you will lose.

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I would say to 60 mph would depend on his traction. To the 1/4 mile will depend on your fuel and if you're having timing corrections. On 92 octane I could only trap 104 mph on the stock turbo. 109 mph is a pretty big gap. If you add some ethanol to the tank (E30) I think you will win. If you run pump gas I think you will lose.

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Idk where you're getting 4.1 from every article I see is 4.5-4.6. I have PSS tires so no issues for my traction at least the launch is absolutely brutal now with the mods. Thanks for the input deff wana have a race with him !

Hunter3 · 09-12-2018, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by WeekendWarriorz

Do you have e85 near you, map 7 and e30-e40 will give you the best chance. and do a 30 roll in 2nd gear or 50 roll in 3rd gear, if you're doing a dig turn off DTC completely, put the car in 2nd gear and brake boost launch from 3k rpm. Make sure you don't hit the kickdown. You will r@PE HIM from a dig no doubt. Do some practice, and when roll racing shift at 5500rpm, good luck! Take videos and post.

I thought map 5 was the best for a mix ? I haven't really researched it that much but something I definitely want to do. Can you suggest how much to put in so I have no issues ? Like can I fill up until there's a quarter tank left of 93 octane and fill the rest with E85 ? Also why shift so early I thought peak power is optimal to shift at around 6500 rpm right before redline

Map 7 is the fastest map and requires either 100 octane or an e30+ mix, with low gas put in 2 Gallons of e85 and 3 gallons of 93. And peak performance is 5500rpm, 6500 is too high and the turbo is out of its efficiency range for e series N55

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Originally Posted by Turbod

I would say to 60 mph would depend on his traction. To the 1/4 mile will depend on your fuel and if you're having timing corrections. On 92 octane I could only trap 104 mph on the stock turbo. 109 mph is a pretty big gap. If you add some ethanol to the tank (E30) I think you will win. If you run pump gas I think you will lose.

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Do you have e85 near you, map 7 and e30-e40 will give you the best chance. and do a 30 roll in 2nd gear or 50 roll in 3rd gear, if you're doing a dig turn off DTC completely, put the car in 2nd gear and brake boost launch from 3k rpm. Make sure you don't hit the kickdown. You will r@PE HIM from a dig no doubt. Do some practice, and when roll racing shift at 5500rpm, good luck! Take videos and post.

I thought map 5 was the best for a mix ? I haven't really researched it that much but something I definitely want to do. Can you suggest how much to put in so I have no issues ? Like can I fill up until there's a quarter tank left of 93 octane and fill the rest with E85 ? Also why shift so early I thought peak power is optimal to shift at around 6500 rpm right before redline

Map 7 is the fastest map and requires either 100 octane or an e30+ mix, with low gas put in 2 Gallons of e85 and 3 gallons of 93. And peak performance is 5500rpm, 6500 is too high and the turbo is out of its efficiency range for e series N55

Interesting I'm gonna have to do some more research to see what's best and safe for me to add in the ethanol safely. I'll try out shifting at 5500 I didn't know that thanks for the info !

Pladi · 09-12-2018, 09:23 PM

go race him and show us a video now thats a much more interesting post

than trying to speculate night and day if i had this and if i had 5 turbos id probably beat him with some E100 and meth plus some north korean nuclear farts ... like honestly

Turbod · 09-12-2018, 11:21 PM

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Idk where you're getting 4.1 from every article I see is 4.5-4.6. I have PSS tires so no issues for my traction at least the launch is absolutely brutal now with the mods. Thanks for the input deff wana have a race with him !

C/D is car and driver

Hannibal4444 · 09-14-2018, 11:17 AM

Ya don't worry. You'll win. I beat one from a dig with my heavy ass e93 plus a manual. I passed him once I got to 3rd gear while I was limiting boost in 1st and 2nd. 3rd gear I was targeting 16psi.

We took off at the same time and I didn't launch it or anything. He got a car length from me early, but by 3rd gear I walked him.

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Hunter3 Private First Class 21 Rep 135 Posts Drives: 2013 BMW 335xi e92 N55 Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: United States iTrader: (0)	335xi vs Mercedes C43 AMG What's up guys sitting here at dinner with some of my buddies and we're talking about who's car is faster. My buddy has a 2017 Mercedes C43 AMG and the car is fast no doubt about it. I have a 2013 E92 335xi with FMIC, charger pipe, downpipe and JB4 running map 2. Now obviously we haven't done it yet or else I wouldn't be posting but what do you you guys think who is winning ? I honestly think he has no chance but I don't wana be bias so I'm asking what you guys think.
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WeekendWarriorz Captain 670 Rep 754 Posts Drives: 2006 Z4M Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Anaheim Hills, CA iTrader: (4)	Do you have e85 near you, map 7 and e30-e40 will give you the best chance. and do a 30 roll in 2nd gear or 50 roll in 3rd gear, if you're doing a dig turn off DTC completely, put the car in 2nd gear and brake boost launch from 3k rpm. Make sure you don't hit the kickdown. You will r@PE HIM from a dig no doubt. Do some practice, and when roll racing shift at 5500rpm, good luck! Take videos and post. __________________ 2006 Z4 M Roadster Black/Imola Red, FBO VF-Engineering, e85 Flex Fuel-Sold 2012 BMW 135i N55 DCT Alpine White/Coral Red, FBO, TBI, Full e85, JB4 BEF-Sold 2006 Z4 M Roadster Black/Black-Sold 2021 M2 Competition DCT Hockenheim Silver
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dpark Private First Class 11 Rep 105 Posts Drives: BMW 335i E92 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Sydney, NSW iTrader: (0)	Should go in your favour, depending on the length. With your mods and tune, power difference will be minimal, but you have the advantage of being roughly 500lbs lighter. From a dig to 60mph, could go either way. Beyond that, it should swing in your favour.
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Turbod Major 396 Rep 1,210 Posts Drives: 2014 E84 X1 35i M Sport Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Oregon iTrader: (0)	I would say to 60 mph would depend on his traction. To the 1/4 mile will depend on your fuel and if you're having timing corrections. On 92 octane I could only trap 104 mph on the stock turbo. 109 mph is a pretty big gap. If you add some ethanol to the tank (E30) I think you will win. If you run pump gas I think you will lose. __________________ 2011 E92 335i \| 11.7@125 SOLD 2017 Camaro SS \| 12.7@114 SOLD 2019 Audi TT RS \| 10.5@130 SOLD 2020 F97 X3M \| 11.0@123 2023 G80 M3 xDrive
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Pladi Lieutenant Colonel 718 Rep 1,753 Posts Drives: 2011 335i xdrive Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Waterloo, ON Canada iTrader: (0)	go race him and show us a video now thats a much more interesting post than trying to speculate night and day if i had this and if i had 5 turbos id probably beat him with some E100 and meth plus some north korean nuclear farts ... like honestly
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Hannibal4444 Private First Class 27 Rep 144 Posts Drives: N55--E93 6MT Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: San Jose, CA iTrader: (0)	Ya don't worry. You'll win. I beat one from a dig with my heavy ass e93 plus a manual. I passed him once I got to 3rd gear while I was limiting boost in 1st and 2nd. 3rd gear I was targeting 16psi. We took off at the same time and I didn't launch it or anything. He got a car length from me early, but by 3rd gear I walked him.
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