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      04-26-2023, 02:48 PM   #2069
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I love my ev and only closed minded insecure people will forever hate on them.
So people that are fine with EV's and only hate government forced mandates are cool in your book? (Hoping I make your friend list in 2035 )
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I have a g80 too that’s not a cool ride? Lmaooo

I love my ev and only closed minded insecure people will forever hate on them.

Enjoy trying to live in the past while you’re going to be “forced” to deal with the future come 2035!


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My thoughts on EVs are similar to some organized religions. It's not the concept of (____); it's the people who proselytize those ideas that I can't stand.
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So people that are fine with EV's and only hate government forced mandates are cool in your book? (Hoping I make your friend list in 2035 )
I said this countless times that I don’t think it’s right they’re actually putting a date on this. It should transition slowly.

But your “fight” on this matter is wasted energy. No one said you better love it or you’re dumb.

I’m saying embrace it because it’s going to happen regardless of emotions.
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My thoughts on EVs are similar to some organized religions. It's not the concept of (____); it's the people who proselytize those ideas that I can't stand.
Everyone is different.

Possibly going full ev in 12 years is similar to organized religions?

So it’s ok to belittle someone who is ok with what the future brings but it’s not ok for us people who are ok with what the future brings?

There’s always 2 sides. You have your side and the posts reflect it.

There are people who are on “my side”.

Or is this thread simply just to bitch about it and have everyone on your side?
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Everyone is different.

Possibly going full ev in 12 years is similar to organized religions?

So it’s ok to belittle someone who is ok with what the future brings but it’s not ok for us people who are ok with what the future brings?

There’s always 2 sides. You have your side and the posts reflect it.

There are people who are on “my side”.

Or is this thread simply just to bitch about it and have everyone on your side?
There are generally 3 sides, 2 of which are comprised of Karens.
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I said this countless times that I don’t think it’s right they’re actually putting a date on this. It should transition slowly.
then why embrace the 2035 date, and even double down on 2030?

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But your “fight” on this matter is wasted energy.
Wasted energy? Defending grid stability is not wasteful, it's my actual job and I'm paid very well to do it because my employer thinks it's anything but wasteful.

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I’m saying embrace it because it’s going to happen regardless of emotions.
Strange, because when people present facts, you ascribe emotions to their facts. EG: "the power grid can't cope with these kinds changes this fast", < Oh you are just scared or you hate EV's.
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      04-26-2023, 04:49 PM   #2075
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I'll just leave this one here as well:

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/r...140000470.html
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      04-26-2023, 05:55 PM   #2076
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There are generally 3 sides, 2 of which are comprised of Karens.

This is true to be honest.

Karens take no side and just bitch just for the sake of bitching.

So there are definitely karens in this thread. Passive aggressive posts, aimless reasoning and logic, whining, bitching, you know the usual on bimmerpost.

All i know is all roads point to the inevitable. So i guess there's no reason to preach. Let the time line do the talking.

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This is true to be honest.

Karens take no side and just bitch just for the sake of bitching.

So there are definitely karens in this thread. Passive aggressive posts, aimless reasoning and logic, whining, bitching, you know the usual on bimmerpost.

All i know is all roads point to the inevitable. So i guess there's no reason to preach. Let the time line do the talking.

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I have to tell you that you improve your trolling skills each and every page of this thread. You still add absolutely nothing as far as information and you offer no discussion as to the obstacles we have all put forth. You stick right to doing your best to try to aggravate people. Well done. Don’t you think it’s best for you to disengage at this point? You’re not here to hold a discussion. You’ve not made one legitimate point. You have not countered in any fashion our arguments about the government being the one forcing this, the electrical grid situation. the charging station situation or affordability. Nothing. All you’ve done is put forth a silly date that you have absolutely no proof whatsoever is going to happen and you definitely know that. You only continue to say it in hopes to aggravate and troll people. You are in fact the textbook, definition of a troll at this point.
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I have to tell you that you improve your trolling skills each and every page of this thread. You still add absolutely nothing as far as information and you offer no discussion as to the obstacles we have all put forth. You stick right to doing your best to try to aggravate people. Well done. Don’t you think it’s best for you to disengage at this point? You’re not here to hold a discussion. You’ve not made one legitimate point. You have not countered in any fashion our arguments about the government being the one forcing this, the electrical grid situation. the charging station situation or affordability. Nothing. All you’ve done is put forth a silly date that you have absolutely no proof whatsoever is going to happen and you definitely know that. You only continue to say it in hopes to aggravate and troll people. You are in fact the textbook, definition of a troll at this point.
It's obvious the dude is sub-adult with zero substance. He can't counter in a discussion because he has no background in life; he's too young.

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      04-26-2023, 09:19 PM   #2079
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Yawn…. Just like I stated, this is a thread to bitch.

It’s all good. In a couple of years as we move closer to the demise, you’ll see it’s not a joke.

Until then it’s humorous to see people get mad about this like they can do something about it.

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And yes I am definitely still an enthusiast

The low cost to operate it supplements the cost of owning my ///M car
This absolutely, we currently have two Electrics, they’re amazing for daily duty city driving.
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Reading isn't your strong suit sir/madame. The figure given is for Q1. Last year BMW sold just over 330K total cars in the USA. So clearly Tesla's Q1 figures aren't insignificant. Furthermore, even BMW has seen huge demand for their new EV's. Anyhow, carryon with your conspiracy theory.
Yes, and what was the best selling M Performance car last year? An Electric nobody wants called the i4 M50. What rock hit this person in the head and built a house over them?
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Diesel were too economical, and lasted too long so they created “diesel gate” where they needed super special equipment that totally showed them letting off too much emissions - right in time for EV to be the big push.
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Yeesh, why does everything have to be a conspiracy?

Diesels never met the emissions targets that the diesel crowd promised, so the Europeans decided to shift to electric sooner. And the Americans never bought into it at all. You don't need to invent stuff. Diesel was only ever going to be a bridge solution on the way to electric.

And I say this as someone who SERIOUSLY considered getting a 335d (so much torque), but in the end I couldn't live without 6MT.
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      04-27-2023, 01:24 AM   #2084
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Yes, and what was the best selling M Performance car last year? An Electric nobody wants called the i4 M50. What rock hit this person in the head and built a house over them?
The i4 did not and does not compete with “M” cars or competitors, and was handling outsold by its gas counterparts.

It’s true, no one wants them, which is why governments around the world are giving massive incentives and huge penalties to force people to switch. Denying this is blatant ignorance.
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The i4 did not and does not compete with “M” cars or competitors, and was handling outsold by its gas counterparts.

It’s true, no one wants them, which is why governments around the world are giving massive incentives and huge penalties to force people to switch. Denying this is blatant ignorance.
Wrong again, “The best-selling BMW M automobile of 2022 is the all-electric BMW i4 M50,” says Timo Resch, Head of Customer, Brand and Sales at BMW M GmbH.

Nobody wants them….dude get over yourself and your alternative facts. Tell me what incentives I got when I got my ‘20 Model 3 Performance? None, except skipping some Exxon payments. Or how about my ‘22 i4? None again, except killer range in the city. Wander over to 4chan with this BS.

Apologies to all for jacking this CS thread, I don’t handle BS well. I’m done engaging with it.

Goodnight.

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Wrong again, “The best-selling BMW M automobile of 2022 is the all-electric BMW i4 M50,” says Timo Resch, Head of Customer, Brand and Sales at BMW M GmbH.

Nobody wants them….dude get over yourself and your alternative facts. Tell me what incentives I got when I got my ‘20 Model 3 Performance? None, except skipping some Exxon payments. Or how about my ‘22 i4? None again, except killer range in the city. Wander over to 4chan with this BS.

Apologies to all for jacking this CS thread, I don’t handle BS well. I’m done engaging with it.

Goodnight.

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Wrong again, “The best-selling BMW M automobile of 2022 is the all-electric BMW i4 M50,” says Timo Resch, Head of Customer, Brand and Sales at BMW M GmbH.

Nobody wants them….dude get over yourself and your alternative facts. Tell me what incentives I got when I got my ‘20 Model 3 Performance? None, except skipping some Exxon payments. Or how about my ‘22 i4? None again, except killer range in the city. Wander over to 4chan with this BS.

Apologies to all for jacking this CS thread, I don’t handle BS well. I’m done engaging with it.

Goodnight.

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My dude, you’re being intellectually dishonest and outright just flippant when you’re incorrect.

The I4 does NOT compete with “M” cars was my previous statement. BMW considers anything with an M part of those sale numbers, including the M240i - which we all would agree isn’t an M2.

M cars carry a higher price tag and are lower production compared to the cars they are based on. The I4 is based on the 4 series, where it’s gas counterpart handily outsold it.

At 50k it isubstabirally cheaper than the Cheapest ///M3 which is 20k higher.

Overall, electric cars made up 5% of overall sales. You’re being disingenuous by stating there is a huge demand for these cars when they make up a FRACTION of actual sales and cost less than the actual high performance variants.

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Couldn't have said it better myself.
Considering he didn’t say much, that’s pretty telling.

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If only electric vehicles would shoot sparks — in the marketplace, that is.

Despite the billions of dollars invested by private corporations, and government subsidies, Americans are still indifferent as a whole over electric vehicles.

Just two in every 10 Americans say they are “very likely” to buy an EV as their next car, according to a recent survey by the University of Chicago’s Energy Policy Institute and the AP-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research.
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The only EV I even think about is the Toyota Murai. I think that Hydrogen fuel cells makes sense as the refueling is quick and about as easy as filling up a propane cylinder. Electric charging is going to be a challenge for cars once more EVs are on the road and the electric grids reach a maximum. In addition what can go wrong with hydrogen? I only wish hydrogen was available in my area as I'm quite interested in this advancement in vehicles.
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Considering he didn’t say much, that’s pretty telling.

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It’s a conspiracy!
Ah, so it's only derailing a thread when somebody else is doing it .

Rivian, Tesla and all the conventional car makers haven't been able to produce electric cars fast enough to meet demand. The premiums they have been going for on auction sites has been insane. That demand is slowing a bit now, as it is for all cars, but your assertion that "no one wants them" and that sales are lagging because electric variants are "pretty crap" is some brilliant head-in-the-sand bullshit.

I know people who own multiple teslas, rivians and lucids who absolutely, frikkin love them. And they all make too much money for the tax credits


Not to mention all these EV's that are still going for well over MSRP on auction sites:

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/KDG...ckup-edition-1
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