E90Post
 


Studio RSR
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Powertrain and Drivetrain Discussions > N55 Turbo Engine Tuning and Exhaust Modifications - 335i Tuning > Looking at FMIC + tuning on N55



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      08-28-2022, 10:29 PM   #1
redz06
Private First Class
United_States
24
Rep
185
Posts

Drives: 2011 335i sedan
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Fulshear, TX, US

iTrader: (0)

Looking at FMIC + tuning on N55

I am considering the installation of an aftermarket FMIC and a revised tune.
I already have an upgraded charge pipe. I am not currently envisioning changing from my catted OEM downpipe.

As I look at previous results, I see wheel horsepower of 300-310 with wheel torque of over 400 lb-ft, maybe as high as 450 is possible. But what is the steady state torque capacity of my OEM clutch? This makes me concerned that the performance upgrade I am considering will need to include the installed cost of a higher-performing clutch assembly, increasing the cost by more than $1000, and it may make the upgrade unfeasible.

So first question is what is the torque capacity of the OEM N55 mechanical clutch? Mine has 92k miles on it. Does torque capacity degrade with mileage?

If this has been covered in previous posts, I apologize. I did do a search and did not come up with and answer.






























4
Appreciate 0
      08-29-2022, 09:54 AM   #2
mike@x-ph.com
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
mike@x-ph.com's Avatar
United_States
24174
Rep
190,750
Posts


Drives: 07-335/12-328/18-M4/21-M4CP
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Las Vegas

iTrader: (23)

You won't need to upgrade the clutch as long as you do not upgrade your turbo.

I recommend a race intercooler since you will be running stage 2. MAD/BMS are really good options
__________________
Check out our current sale by clicking on this link!
https://x-ph.com/sale/

Phone number 702-494-9435
Appreciate 0
      08-29-2022, 01:11 PM   #3
Info@mad-us.com
Brigadier General
Info@mad-us.com's Avatar
1910
Rep
4,902
Posts

Drives: bmw
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Mad-us.com

iTrader: (0)

As far as the clutch you could see some slip depending on how worn it is 90K + is alot.. This would depend on how it was treated but I can tell you I had clutch slip in the. 35k range when loading in 4-th and 5th with a stage 2 tune.

In regards to the intercooler we have two versions available the 5 inch Hd intercooler and the 7 inch race Hd cooler.

5 inch. https://mad-us.com/mad-013-mad-bmw-e...-stepped-core/

7 inch race https://mad-us.com/mad-bmw-7-5-stepp...55-135-1m-335/



If you have any questions regarding any of them please let me know.
__________________
- Click Here
Performance Parts For Your Bmw At Crazy Low Prices!
Email: info@mad-us.com
Appreciate 0
      08-31-2022, 09:41 PM   #4
redz06
Private First Class
United_States
24
Rep
185
Posts

Drives: 2011 335i sedan
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Fulshear, TX, US

iTrader: (0)

N55 Clutch holding Capacity

Well ECS told me that my stock clutch and flywheel could not be expected to hold more than 400 lb-ft torque. Posing this same question to FCP Euro did not get an answer at all. So this accelerates the cost of adding a FMIC and a tune and blasting the inlet valves with walnut shells to over $3k, which was unexpected. If this is the case, it pushes the overall cost to an area which I cannot justify, as I already have a track toy with "needs". Am I missing something? FMIC + tune + installation + walnut shell blast is a cost, and yet my stock E90 N55 3 series is still a very reliable and fun car. Why spend $3000 for an addition of 40 hp and 100 lbft torque, when the totals are governed by the small turbo capacity in any case?
Appreciate 0
      08-31-2022, 10:36 PM   #5
whyzee125
Brigadier General
1673
Rep
3,640
Posts

Drives: Dinan stage 2 335i
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Chattanooga Tn

iTrader: (0)

My previous N55 with 38k miles and stock clutch would slip in very cold weather with a Eurocharged tune and stock FMIC. I wouldn't count on your stock clutch holding.
Appreciate 0
      09-03-2022, 06:55 PM   #6
redz06
Private First Class
United_States
24
Rep
185
Posts

Drives: 2011 335i sedan
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Fulshear, TX, US

iTrader: (0)

Clutch Torque Capacity

Quote:
Originally Posted by whyzee125 View Post
My previous N55 with 38k miles and stock clutch would slip in very cold weather with a Eurocharged tune and stock FMIC. I wouldn't count on your stock clutch holding.
Just curious. What clutch did you use for the replacement and how is is holding up? Do you have any idea how much peak torque your engine produces with the Eurocharged tune?
Appreciate 0
      09-03-2022, 10:18 PM   #7
whyzee125
Brigadier General
1673
Rep
3,640
Posts

Drives: Dinan stage 2 335i
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Chattanooga Tn

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by redz06 View Post
Just curious. What clutch did you use for the replacement and how is is holding up? Do you have any idea how much peak torque your engine produces with the Eurocharged tune?
I actually never replaced it on that car, only slipped once or twice in very cold weather. On my previous N54, it slipped badly on an OTS Cobb tune so I upgraded to the 335is clutch with a new OEM replacement LUK flywheel and was very happy. Held the power great and felt great and smooth.
Appreciate 0
      09-04-2022, 10:06 AM   #8
mike@x-ph.com
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
mike@x-ph.com's Avatar
United_States
24174
Rep
190,750
Posts


Drives: 07-335/12-328/18-M4/21-M4CP
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Las Vegas

iTrader: (23)

OP
Do the upgrade and keep the clutch stock; if it starts slipping, upgrade the clutch as well.

It sounds like its 50/50
__________________
Check out our current sale by clicking on this link!
https://x-ph.com/sale/

Phone number 702-494-9435
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:24 PM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST