[MartinWake]

Hey guys I have a 2011 e92 335i with the cic but wanted to upgrade to a better looking one so first I came across this site from youtube (http://www.a-carnavi.com/) and it looks pretty good but I was talking to one of my friends and they recommended I get one from this site (https://avinusa.com/) do any of you guys have experience with this and can tell me what you think thanks!

[Nickco43]

Originally Posted by MartinWake

Hey guys I have a 2011 e92 335i with the cic but wanted to upgrade to a better looking one so first I came across this site from youtube (http://www.a-carnavi.com/) and it looks pretty good but I was talking to one of my friends and they recommended I get one from this site (https://avinusa.com/) do any of you guys have experience with this and can tell me what you think thanks!

Why would you ruin the best bang for the buck OEM infotainment system with some aftermarket trash?

[MartinWake]

Originally Posted by Nickco43

Why would you ruin the best bang for the buck OEM infotainment system with some aftermarket trash?

Because its boring bro the navi does not even have the streets I live in no bluetooh I have to use Aux plus an adapter and it looks quite outdated now that the new ones from bmw are out I can always sell my cic and make some money back..

[Nickco43]

Originally Posted by MartinWake

Because its boring bro the navi does not even have the streets I live in no bluetooh I have to use Aux plus an adapter and it looks quite outdated now that the new ones from bmw are out I can always sell my cic and make some money back..

I believe the avin needs the CIC to function properly. BMW is about to drop North American 2019-2 maps for the CIC and you can pop in a $100 combox for BT media and BMW Apps if you have a factory 6fl car. You can easily update your maps for free.

[MartinWake]

Originally Posted by Nickco43

I believe the avin needs the CIC to function properly. BMW is about to drop North American 2019-2 maps for the CIC and you can pop in a $100 combox for BT media and BMW Apps if you have a factory 6fl car. You can easily update your maps for free.

Yeah I would only sell the screen I still need all the other fun parts

[ctuna]

There are many reviews of the Avin add on's on the stereo
sub forum.
The downside it that a lot of them use the aux to piggyback
off the BMW idrive or pro radio.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=27

Waze or Google maps will always be ahead of factory nav's best to
mirror them .

https://www.e90post.com/forums/searc...rchid=61389564

[MartinWake]

Originally Posted by ctuna

There are many reviews of the Avin add on's on the stereo
sub forum.
The downside it that a lot of them use the aux to piggyback
off the BMW idrive or pro radio.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=27

Waze or Google maps will always be ahead of factory nav's best to
mirror them .

https://www.e90post.com/forums/searc...rchid=61389564

What do you mean by mirror them? and piggyback off the Idrive? thx for the link too! oh yeah and I just saw a post about sound quality, since I have the harman and kardon system idk how it would affect it...

[Nickco43]

Originally Posted by MartinWake

What do you mean by mirror them? and piggyback off the Idrive? thx for the link too! oh yeah and I just saw a post about sound quality, since I have the harman and kardon system idk how it would affect it...

You will also need a $100 most converter with the avin.

[ctuna]

If you get the piggyback units the just route sound to the old system
via the aux . Since you have not removed the old system the sound just
goes through the aux and then through the factory system.
That is the piggybacking.

If you get a Avin Head Unit that does not piggyback then you will need
a Most converter.

Mirroring your phone so that it runs the Waze or whatever app on the screen
of the installed device(Head Unit ) or running that app directly on the head unit if it has the app installed.

[MartinWake]

Originally Posted by Nickco43

You will also need a $100 most converter with the avin.

For this one I would need it and do you think its one of the options? https://avinusa.com/8-8-bmw-3-series...on-system.html

[MartinWake]

Originally Posted by ctuna

If you get the piggyback units the just route sound to the old system
via the aux . Since you have not removed the old system the sound just
goes through the aux and then through the factory system.
That is the piggybacking.

How would I know the difference? between piggyback units or not? from the sites I linked..

[ctuna]

You need to do some of the footwork yourself there are reviews
of there devices as I pointed out in my links on the stereo sub
forum.

[MartinWake]

Originally Posted by ctuna

You need to do some of the footwork yourself there are reviews
of there devices as I pointed out in my links on the stereo sub
forum.

Yeah I looked but most dont link exactly where they bought it from I have been looking through the forum and other sites but the screens all look the same just take a look at this one https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3300...c-2d77122ce48d

And thats from aliexpress

[Nickco43]

Originally Posted by MartinWake

Yeah I looked but most dont link exactly where they bought it from I have been looking through the forum and other sites but the screens all look the same just take a look at this one https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3300...c-2d77122ce48d

And thats from aliexpress

I am sure it is the same device and you even get free DHL shipping. You are still missing the MOST adapter for your logic 7 car.

Keep in mind if you sell your CIC and take the $500 you would spend on this you can DIY a NBT Next retrofit.

[MartinWake]

Originally Posted by Nickco43

I am sure it is the same device and you even get free DHL shipping. You are still missing the MOST adapter for your logic 7 car.

Keep in mind if you sell your CIC and take the $500 you would spend on this you can DIY a NBT Next retrofit.

What does that mean "nbt next retrofit" if you can explain plz.

and is this the adapter you are referring to? https://tracktimemotorsports.com/pro...h-fiber-optics

[ctuna]

https://www.bimmerretrofit.com/store...product_id=117

From Avin's website

https://avinusa.com/8-8-bmw-3-series...on-system.html

The Avin above uses the aux to feed the stock system audio so no most adapter needed. You notice they talk about an aux splitter so you can continue to use the aux when you are not using there device.

The reviews on the audio subforum for Avin have not been outstanding
to say the least.

[MartinWake]

Originally Posted by ctuna

https://www.bimmerretrofit.com/store...product_id=117

From Avin's website

https://avinusa.com/8-8-bmw-3-series...on-system.html

The Avin above uses the aux to feed the stock system audio so no most adapter needed. You notice they talk about an aux splitter so you can continue to use the aux when you are not using there device.

The reviews on the audio subforum for Avin have not been outstanding
to say the least.

The retrofit looks like a hard task tbh and for me personally I dont like how it looks for some reason but I guess from something from china its kinda expected not to be the best...

[Nickco43]

Originally Posted by ctuna

https://www.bimmerretrofit.com/store...product_id=117

From Avin's website

https://avinusa.com/8-8-bmw-3-series...on-system.html

The Avin above uses the aux to feed the stock system audio so no most adapter needed. You notice they talk about an aux splitter so you can continue to use the aux when you are not using there device.

The reviews on the audio subforum for Avin have not been outstanding
to say the least.

I am not a fan of the Bimmer Retrofit NBT kits. They use European units instead of US units and their customer support is not acceptable in my opinion.

[MartinWake]

Originally Posted by Nickco43

I am sure it is the same device and you even get free DHL shipping. You are still missing the MOST adapter for your logic 7 car.

Keep in mind if you sell your CIC and take the $500 you would spend on this you can DIY a NBT Next retrofit.

The MOST adapter have you seen if some of these aftermarket units come with it or a solution to it, if not while installing the unit where would I plug it into?

[MartinWake]

If it piggybacks off my aux would I still need the adapter? I would think so for better sound quality?

[ctuna]

Basically there is no way for what you asked to work.
The Avin feeds all the audio through your existing aux
to the existing system.
And as many know the aux has low fidelity .
The aux is in between your existing head unit and is
fed by the Avin. The amp is on the other side and fed
by the optical output of the existing head unit.
The only reason you would need a Most Converter is if
you where putting a whole new head unit and taking out
the factory one.

NBT is a cleaner solution.
More expensive to.

[MartinWake]

Originally Posted by ctuna

Basically there is no way for what you asked to work.
The Avin feeds all the audio through your existing aux
to the existing system.
And as many know the aux has low fidelity .
The aux is in between your existing head unit and is
fed by the Avin. The amp is on the other side and fed
by the optical output of the existing head unit.
The only reason you would need a Most Converter is if
you where putting a whole new head unit and taking out
the factory one.

NBT is a cleaner solution.
More expensive to.

Yeah I like the cleaner solution part but not the more expensive tbh, right now I use the aux and a bluetooth adapter to listen to music on my phone so the quality would pretty much be the same if the unit uses the aux I would think.. also if I am going to get the avin or whatever I might as well just buy it from aliexpress since its the exact same thing that the avin company sells but its just re branded and put at a higher price