[herqt]

Any1 knows? Cant find any solution...



Seems like my VO(FA) gone and i need to restore it somehow ?

[dpaul]

Very unlikely your VO is "gone"

Try re-importing the DATENs - Use BMW coding tool to do the installation

[herqt]

Originally Posted by dpaul

Very unlikely your VO is "gone"

Try re-importing the DATENs - Use BMW coding tool to do the installation

Idk, updated e89, e65 datens.

[dpaul]

And how did you accomplish that update?

[herqt]

Originally Posted by dpaul

And how did you accomplish that update?

Using bmw coding tool, datens i downloaded from 1 link which i found in this forum. Theres a guide about it.

[dpaul]

Originally Posted by herqt

Using bmw coding tool, datens i downloaded from 1 link which i found in this forum. Theres a guide about it.

Which link? What version datens? I ask because your error messages are the classic ones received when the datens are out of date or corrupt.

Is this a new installation of BMW Standard Tools (BST) or was it working before and just stopped working? Is the cable new or has it been shown to work in other installation? Do the other BST components (INPA, WinKFP, Tool32) function normally or not?

[herqt]

Originally Posted by dpaul

Which link? What version datens? I ask because your error messages are the classic ones received when the datens are out of date or corrupt.

Is this a new installation of BMW Standard Tools (BST) or was it working before and just stopped working? Is the cable new or has it been shown to work in other installation? Do the other BST components (INPA, WinKFP, Tool32) function normally or not?

Inpa works just fine, datens v60+ or something. Inpa ediabas v4 new instalation, Have tried mikes easy bmw, revtors, some new for win 10, noone of them are working only inpa, ncsexpert same error.

[dpaul]

OK, I understand you've tried installing BST using several different packages. Nevertheless, the first thing I'd do is completely uninstall and erase all of it.

Then I'd download BST from the Bimmergeeks link:
https://www.bimmergeeks.net/downloads

You will not need a daten download to use NCSExpert or many INPA functions with the Bimmergeek BST installation - you will only need the daten for WinKFP so just forget the daten for now. The BG installation should already have filled the directory C:\NCSEXPER\DATEN\

Let's see if that works or how that fails. I understand you read somewhere about restoring the VO using ssd files. I can't imagine how your CAS and NFRM could both 'lose' the VO and without reading that thread, I have no idea how it might relate to your problem.

But maybe someone with more experience can chime in here.

[ctuna]

As far as I know everything can be done from the computer
you set up Standard tools on . This includes changing
the production date for installing the newer options.
The only reason to set it up on a SSD at least for ISTA D
is its a big program and you want it to be portable.

Also I agree that starting over with the bimmergeeks.net downloads
is the right approach . We know those work and have fairly uptodate
datens already included.
Also we know how to check the issues with the install on those.
Before you do this stuff you need to make sure your PC has the
base Microsoft programs that make this work.
This means all the Microsoft C++ programs and I believe NetFrameWork
4.7 or better.
It's a good idea to list which windows version you have.

Also the Bimmergeeks download has the update tool for datens
plus DrGini for updating modules as an alternative to winkfp.

[dpaul]

I think you misunderstood- we were talking about ssd files, not solid state drives. It was part of an off line conversation, so sorry for the confusion

[ctuna]

Yep

[herqt]

Originally Posted by dpaul

OK, I understand you've tried installing BST using several different packages. Nevertheless, the first thing I'd do is completely uninstall and erase all of it.

Then I'd download BST from the Bimmergeeks link:
https://www.bimmergeeks.net/downloads

You will not need a daten download to use NCSExpert or many INPA functions with the Bimmergeek BST installation - you will only need the daten for WinKFP so just forget the daten for now. The BG installation should already have filled the directory C:\NCSEXPER\DATEN\

Let's see if that works or how that fails. I understand you read somewhere about restoring the VO using ssd files. I can't imagine how your CAS and NFRM could both 'lose' the VO and without reading that thread, I have no idea how it might relate to your problem.

But maybe someone with more experience can chime in here.

So, i did as u said, have the same error , Cleared previous installations, folders etc, reinstalled everything from bimmergeeks, im using windows 10, ran comp mode win 7, administrator, etc. INPA works fine, NCSEXPER still can't get FA(same error).

Found a thread about it :http://bmwcoders.com/forum/bmw-gt1-o...-read-fa-3189/
https://cartechnology.co.uk/showthre...d=43745&page=2

[ctuna]

Did the ocx files install OK .
Win 10 should have up to date and complete C++ files
and netframework 4.7 and better.
The big difference between win 7 and 10 is the cmd prompt
is now called the power shell.
There are two version regular and Admin .
Right click start to select either from the drop down.

could be some of the diesel files are missing.
You need to find those I think this has come up before.
I don't know if the e89 daten on there site contains them.

As a sanity check you may want to try your setup on another car.

You don't have any aftermarket tuning devices on the motor do you?
In the gas models sometimes this will interfere with diags and coding.
Juice box comes to mind.

[herqt]

Originally Posted by ctuna

Did the ocx files install OK .
Win 10 should have up to date and complete C++ files
and netframework 4.7 and better.
The big difference between win 7 and 10 is the cmd prompt
is now called the power shell.
There are two version regular and Admin .
Right click start to select either from the drop down.

could be some of the diesel files are missing.
You need to find those I think this has come up before.
I don't know if the e89 daten on there site contains them.

As a sanity check you may want to try your setup on another car.

You don't have any aftermarket tuning devices on the motor do you?
In the gas models sometimes this will interfere with diags and coding.
Juice box comes to mind.

No i dont have any aftermarket tuning devices.Full stock e91 330d m57. And cmd is only needed to load those 3 reg files which are included in that instalation guide(rar) from bimmergeeks.

[ctuna]

Did you load those from the admin login which is most
easily selected in win 10 by right clicking on start and selecting
it from the admin WindowsPowerShell(Admin) selection.

[herqt]

Originally Posted by ctuna

Did you load those from the admin login which is most
easily selected in win 10 by right clicking on start and selecting
it from the admin WindowsPowerShell(Admin) selection.

No, ill try. But i dont think its the problem ;/ will let u know soon. Edit: just tried it, same error.

[ctuna]

Find another car a try to verify your coding setup.
A gas car if possible with a 6 cylinder motor.
(because I believe the Bimmergeeks download and
most other downloads are biased towards these)

You might also post a printout of functional jobs screen
shots from Inpa. The ones that show the modules.

diagnostic manual ista/inpa
https://bimmerprofs.com/diagnostics-inpa-part-1/
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...xo19teM9vkTF-C
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...7x8H3pN8h1fMuF
https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...-P-actually-do

[herqt]

Originally Posted by ctuna

Find another car a try to verify your coding setup.
A gas car if possible with a 6 cylinder motor.
(because I believe the Bimmergeeks download and
most other downloads are biased towards these)

You might also post a printout of functional jobs screen
shots from Inpa. The ones that show the modules.

diagnostic manual ista/inpa
https://bimmerprofs.com/diagnostics-inpa-part-1/
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...xo19teM9vkTF-C
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...7x8H3pN8h1fMuF
https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...-P-actually-do

. Ista needs icom and i dont want to buy that, just fot simple codings where ncsexpert is more than enough. Gotta try my setup on another bmw, but im pretty sure it gonna work, i cant find how to restore my fa/vo to cas frm or nfrm . Maybe its not possible with ncsexpert if someone fuked up before. Maybe the one way is only with ista to reset it.

[dpaul]

Originally Posted by herqt

So, i did as u said, have the same error , Cleared previous installations, folders etc, reinstalled everything from bimmergeeks, im using windows 10, ran comp mode win 7, administrator, etc. INPA works fine, NCSEXPER still can't get FA(same error).

Found a thread about it :http://bmwcoders.com/forum/bmw-gt1-o...-read-fa-3189/
https://cartechnology.co.uk/showthre...d=43745&page=2

OK, so have you tried using an ssd file?

There is not much to it if you have a stored copy of FA - you make a text file with the appropriate VO and a header and footer.

Here's one I've used so you can see the structure:

M E90_CODIERSCHL ALL
A 001 WBAPL33549A515442
E90_#0911&LCSW%0354$7SP$823$845$850$853$876$8SM$92 5*PL33-A090|0000000|0000000|0000000

Just replace VIN with yours and the string starting E90_ with whatever's in your FA.trc. If you don't have an FA.trc, fake up the option list to the best of your ability. Obviously, the file extension needs to be ".ssd" but the name can be anything. I used the last 7 characters of the VIN

Put the ssd file in your NCSExpert/Work directory
Load NCSexpert using Expert or Factory Coding mode, not Manipulate
Choose "Start" (F1)
Choose "Open File (F5)
Select your ssd file
Back (F6)
Process ECU (F4)
Select CAS
Choose "Change Job" (F2)
Select FA_Write
Select "Execute (F3)

[herqt]

Originally Posted by dpaul

OK, so have you tried using an ssd file?

There is not much to it if you have a stored copy of FA - you make a text file with the appropriate VO and a header and footer.

Here's one I've used so you can see the structure:

M E90_CODIERSCHL ALL
A 001 WBAPL33549A515442
E90_#0911&LCSW%0354$7SP$823$845$850$853$876$8SM$92 5*PL33-A090|0000000|0000000|0000000

Just replace VIN with yours and the string starting E90_ with whatever's in your FA.trc. If you don't have an FA.trc, fake up the option list to the best of your ability. Obviously, the file extension needs to be ".ssd" but the name can be anything. I used the last 7 characters of the VIN

Put the ssd file in your NCSExpert/Work directory
Load NCSexpert using Expert or Factory Coding mode, not Manipulate
Choose "Start" (F1)
Choose "Open File (F5)
Select your ssd file
Back (F6)
Process ECU (F4)
Select CAS
Choose "Change Job" (F2)
Select FA_Write
Select "Execute (F3)

I was abou to do that with some random fa file which u get with with instalation of standarttools theres e65 fa.trc in work directory, but im afraid if i will be able to get my fa/vo to factory after that. Cuz i know my vin but ive no idea of what components my fa/vo is. And there are ppl somehow making factory fa/vo for ssd file with only knowing the vin.

[dpaul]

Originally Posted by herqt

I was abou to do that with some random fa file which u get with with instalation of standarttools theres e65 fa.trc in work directory, but im afraid if i will be able to get my fa/vo to factory after that. Cuz i know my vin but ive no idea of what components my fa/vo is. And there are ppl somehow making factory fa/vo for ssd file with only knowing the vin.

Do not use a random FA. There's no way to capture your precise VO if you haven't already saved a copy but you can get a list of options for your VIN, which is mostly what the VO is about, at this link:

https://www.mdecoder.com/

You can then manually construct your ssd using the options list. It likely won't be 100% complete but that won't matter for now.

[elthox]

Do you have by any chance COM port latency not set to 1?