335i "Logic 7" vs. M3 "Enhanced Premium" Sound

Hyper psi-atic · 06-13-2009, 04:04 PM

Can some of the 335'ers and M3'ers on this forum that know the differences please chime in? Before I ordered my 2009 E92 335 thats in transport currently, I had thought the 2 Stereo Upgrades would be the same and love the way the Silver Speaker Faceplates on the M3 Premium Sound pkg enhance the interior appearance, but our 335's dont have that.

So anyways, can someone that has seen and heard both packages state the differences? Thanks !

Below is a picture of the M3 Enhanced Premium Sound Package .

NOTE the silver faceplates on the Speaker Grilles, AND the smallprint description of the package varies considerably different from that of the 335 Logic 7.

Enhanced Premium Sound $1,900

With a power output of 825 watts the Enhanced Audio System is the most powerful sound system ever offered in a BMW. This system features high-quality hi-fi components including 16 high-performance loudspeakers featuring Neodym magnetic drive and exceptionally stiff Hexacone diaphragms, a digital 9-channel amplifier and precision crossovers to guarantee unparalleled sound quality. DIRAC live signal processing technology corrects the impulse response of each loudspeaker, facilitating linear and accurate sound reproduction inside the car. The resulting true impulse response during sound reproduction enables both the driver and all passengers in a BMW to enjoy an extraordinarily multi-faceted and vivid sound experience previously only achieved by high-end home entertainment systems.

Grentz · 06-13-2009, 04:08 PM

I believe the M3 enhanced premium sound system is equivalent to the BMW Individual Program sound system on the 3. At least it sounds that way from the description.

Mark House · 06-13-2009, 04:38 PM

I odered the silver M-3 speaker grills and installed them when I changed the door speakers. They are really easy to install but you do have to remove the door panels.

Mark

E90RWC · 06-14-2009, 02:10 AM

I always wondered what the difference was between the systems.

Spec wise, I would like to know. Or are they the same?

AWM3 · 06-14-2009, 05:22 AM

They are not the same.

The 335 Logic 7 option adds 3 speakers and DSP to the same basic system that comes in the car, for $875.

The M3 "Enhanced Premium Sound" changes a lot more components, uses more expensive speakers, crossovers, and amplifiers, and costs more than twice as much - $1900.

M3 vert · 06-14-2009, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by car62

They are not the same.

The 335 Logic 7 option adds 3 speakers and DSP to the same basic system that comes in the car, for $875.

The M3 "Enhanced Premium Sound" changes a lot more components, uses more expensive speakers, crossovers, and amplifiers, and costs more than twice as much - $1900.

and there is a night and day difference in the bass depth and even treble especially at higher volumes...

test both systems, by having your dealer play your fav CDs in both vehicles and you will definitely notice a difference!

SuPaSkillz · 06-15-2009, 02:41 PM

Yeah i've heard both and the logic 7 on my 335i isnt far off. The logic 7 is a great system for oem...but if you can afford it id go with the enhanced...bass is fuller and silver speakers look cool hehe

jhbodle · 06-16-2009, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SuPaSkillz

Yeah i've heard both and the logic 7 on my 335i isnt far off. The logic 7 is a great system for oem...but if you can afford it id go with the enhanced...bass is fuller and silver speakers look cool hehe

My old E90 325i had the Logic7 and my current 335i has this Individual sound system. The Individual system has more clarity and better timing, but otherwise I haven't noticed a huge difference over the Logic7 system, and neither have my audiophile friends.

Hyper psi-atic · 06-16-2009, 08:01 PM

Cool...thanks for the info guys!

Wiredless · 06-18-2009, 10:15 AM

If you love sound and music.....get it!

No regrets whatsoever.

Mantooth · 07-27-2009, 08:20 PM

Can I use "enhanced" M3 speakers in my standard 335 E92 system? What else would I need? Do I need to rewire or can I reuse the plug harnesses? Anybody know?

Technic · 07-27-2009, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mantooth

Can I use "enhanced" M3 speakers in my standard 335 E92 system? What else would I need? Do I need to rewire or can I reuse the plug harnesses? Anybody know?

No. the impedance of the Individual audio speakers is double the standard/Logic7 speakers.

You will be reducing the volume level of your system in half if you keep your OEM amp.

cdgatti · 08-07-2011, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Technic

No. the impedance of the Individual audio speakers is double the standard/Logic7 speakers.

You will be reducing the volume level of your system in half if you keep your OEM amp.

Is upgrade to the enhanced premium amp an option for those with Logic 7 OR Hifi amps?

Do you know how differend the DSP in this amp is vs an MS-8?

Technic · 08-07-2011, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by cdgatti

Is upgrade to the enhanced premium amp an option for those with Logic 7 OR Hifi amps?

If the question is about retrofitting the EPS system to an existing Logic7 or HiFi system then anything is possible with the right amount of money and time. Is it worth all that money and effort? No, IMO.

If the question is about ordering the EPS from factory at the time of ordering a new 3-Series then yes, it is possible thru Individual.

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Do you know how differend the DSP in this amp is vs an MS-8?

The EPS uses DIRAC as its DSP processing. MS-8 uses Logic7.

emre · 08-10-2011, 05:06 PM

I have the BMW Individual High End Audio System, what you guys call Enhanced Premium , on my 335i.

I think it is not worth the cost. Playing around with the equalizer helps quite a bit but ONLY at higher volumes.

No matter how i set the equalizer, it sounds like any regular factory sound system at lower volumes.

AsianMan21 · 02-10-2012, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark House

I odered the silver M-3 speaker grills and installed them when I changed the door speakers. They are really easy to install but you do have to remove the door panels.

Mark

Hey , just seeing if you had the part number for the speaker grills thnaks!

whyzee125 · 04-20-2019, 09:46 AM

Logic 7 is WAY better than EPS / individual

mweisdorfer · 04-20-2019, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by whyzee125

Logic 7 is WAY better than EPS / individual

Um, you just replied to a thread that's 7 years old.

whyzee125 · 04-20-2019, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mweisdorfer

Um, you just replied to a thread that's 7 years old.

lol didn’t realize. I was just searching comparisons of the two because I just realized the drastic difference and wanted to see if I was alone in my opinion.

mweisdorfer · 04-21-2019, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by whyzee125

Quote:

Originally Posted by mweisdorfer

Um, you just replied to a thread that's 7 years old.

lol didn’t realize. I was just searching comparisons of the two because I just realized the drastic difference and wanted to see if I was alone in my opinion.

Have you heard both in an e90?

david in germany · 04-21-2019, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mweisdorfer

Have you heard both in an e90?

I have.

individual audio kicks Logic 7s a$$. (Turn off the surround)

whyzee125 · 08-14-2019, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mweisdorfer

Have you heard both in an e90?

Yes I’ve owned both in an e90.

06-13-2009, 04:04 PM	#1
Hyper psi-atic Lieutenant 30 Rep 428 Posts Drives: E92 335i M-Sport, 6MT, AW/CR Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NoVA iTrader: (3)	335i "Logic 7" vs. M3 "Enhanced Premium" Sound Can some of the 335'ers and M3'ers on this forum that know the differences please chime in? Before I ordered my 2009 E92 335 thats in transport currently, I had thought the 2 Stereo Upgrades would be the same and love the way the Silver Speaker Faceplates on the M3 Premium Sound pkg enhance the interior appearance, but our 335's dont have that. So anyways, can someone that has seen and heard both packages state the differences? Thanks ! Below is a picture of the M3 Enhanced Premium Sound Package . NOTE the silver faceplates on the Speaker Grilles, AND the smallprint description of the package varies considerably different from that of the 335 Logic 7. Enhanced Premium Sound $1,900 With a power output of 825 watts the Enhanced Audio System is the most powerful sound system ever offered in a BMW. This system features high-quality hi-fi components including 16 high-performance loudspeakers featuring Neodym magnetic drive and exceptionally stiff Hexacone diaphragms, a digital 9-channel amplifier and precision crossovers to guarantee unparalleled sound quality. DIRAC live signal processing technology corrects the impulse response of each loudspeaker, facilitating linear and accurate sound reproduction inside the car. The resulting true impulse response during sound reproduction enables both the driver and all passengers in a BMW to enjoy an extraordinarily multi-faceted and vivid sound experience previously only achieved by high-end home entertainment systems. Attached Images
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Grentz Second Lieutenant 58 Rep 227 Posts Drives: X5 40i G05 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Midwest, USA iTrader: (0)	I believe the M3 enhanced premium sound system is equivalent to the BMW Individual Program sound system on the 3. At least it sounds that way from the description. __________________ Current 19' G05 X5 40i 03' e46 M3 Convert. Past09' e90 335d, 11' E70 X5d, 16' F22 M235xi
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Mark House Enlisted Member 5 Rep 36 Posts Drives: 2007 335i sedan, 2018 X3 30i Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Northern NY iTrader: (2)	I odered the silver M-3 speaker grills and installed them when I changed the door speakers. They are really easy to install but you do have to remove the door panels. Mark
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E90RWC What you know about the twins? 20 Rep 989 Posts Drives: bmw Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: CA iTrader: (1)	I always wondered what the difference was between the systems. Spec wise, I would like to know. Or are they the same?
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SuPaSkillz Private First Class 3 Rep 147 Posts Drives: 2008 e90 335i /2007 E63 M6 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: VA iTrader: (0)	Yeah i've heard both and the logic 7 on my 335i isnt far off. The logic 7 is a great system for oem...but if you can afford it id go with the enhanced...bass is fuller and silver speakers look cool hehe
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