[SCN_Saul]

personally i dont reckon its possible, but hey ho, live and let live and all that

[MattofWycomb]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

cafe chap, listen your the only one against me at the moment, asking me to refer to my negative (but i stil love you as a forum member,xxx)
there is nothing wrong with this post

please understand that my stock 335d is near enough doing 5.5 out of the box:rocks:

so all im saying it with a re-map i am wanting a high 4!! not 4.5 thats crazy!!

but a high 4 the same as the alpina (which is auto too)


Thanks


Carl

Carl, why don't you and your Dad get a B3 instead????????? (I don't think they cost too much more than a fully loaded 335d, do they???)

Then, along with the performance you crave, you'll have an awesome noise as well! Then everyones a winner!

[dxb335d]

Originally Posted by MattofWycomb

Carl, why don't you and your Dad get a B3 instead????????? (I don't think they cost too much more than a fully loaded 335d, do they???)

Then, along with the performance you crave, you'll have an awesome noise as well! Then everyones a winner!

did mention it, but he thinks the alpina is too 'aftermarket' even tho their near enough bmw themselves

i like it i would have one aswell... when i get a job with my father i will ask for one as a company car


Carl

[MattofWycomb]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

did mention it, but he thinks the alpina is too 'aftermarket' even tho their near enough bmw themselves

i like it i would have one aswell... when i get a job with my father i will ask for one as a company car


Carl

My Dad's got a B6 and I can tell you that there's nothing aftermarket about it, just bloody quick (He won't let me drive it though)

Oh, and my Mum's got a B5! (I'm insured on that, but not driven it yet......)

Now all I need to do is get a B3 and the family is complete!!!!!!

[squeezebm]

Originally Posted by MattofWycomb

My Dad's got a B6 and I can tell you that there's nothing aftermarket about it, just bloody quick (He won't let me drive it though)

Oh, and my Mum's got a B5! (I'm insured on that, but not driven it yet......)

Now all I need to do is get a B3 and the family is complete!!!!!!

I really need a New B3

Just read sept's EVO, M3 beats RS4 but for me the B3 beats everything in the world...........EVER

[MattofWycomb]

Originally Posted by squeezebm

I really need a New B3

Just read sept's EVO, M3 beats RS4 but for me the B3 beats everything in the world...........EVER

I bet you wish they'd do a 'd' version?????????

[squeezebm]

Originally Posted by MattofWycomb

I bet you wish they'd do a 'd' version?????????

No not really,running your own firm with a £25k annual fuel bill means diesel or petrol for me, not much difference just prefer the added re-sale come trade in time

[Steve A]

Originally Posted by MattofWycomb

My Dad's got a B6 and I can tell you that there's nothing aftermarket about it, just bloody quick (He won't let me drive it though)

Oh, and my Mum's got a B5! (I'm insured on that, but not driven it yet......)

Now all I need to do is get a B3 and the family is complete!!!!!!

NOW thats a garage.....WOW

[remmib]

O-60 in under 5 sec seems too fast to me

[mikem]

Carlos, you can`t really compare the power of a B3 to a mapped 335d as the B3 will blitz 60 in 2nd gear, correct me if I`m wrong but I think even with the extended rev range of the 335d it still needs 3rd to pass 60 ? and the extra torque doesn`t help traction either.

I rekon my heavy, flexi `vert would still beat the 335d (mapped or not )


For the record `tho I have timed my DMS 325d MANUAL at 5.9 0-60 with a G tech pro.

[roofer]

I beleive the Latin for 0-60 syndrome is;

"I'vegotasmalldickandnofriendsalitis"

[Micky Dee]

Originally Posted by roofer

I beleive the Latin for 0-60 syndrome is;

"I'vegotasmalldickandnofriendsalitis"

[dxb335d]

Originally Posted by mikem

Carlos, you can`t really compare the power of a B3 to a mapped 335d as the B3 will blitz 60 in 2nd gear, correct me if I`m wrong but I think even with the extended rev range of the 335d it still needs 3rd to pass 60 ? and the extra torque doesn`t help traction either.

I rekon my heavy, flexi `vert would still beat the 335d (mapped or not )


For the record `tho I have timed my DMS 325d MANUAL at 5.9 0-60 with a G tech pro.

really??? i have pushed about 3 m3 along down the road quite easily?

beat one at the pod today too e36 tho, tuned to 320bhp!!

what bhp was your 325?


also peppernick has done 4.8 in his....


yes third is required for 60mph

[mikem]

The 325d was running at 234 according to a rolling road.

I`ve chased a few M3`s as well Carl and thought they were only a few car lengths quicker from 80-140. However after now driving an M3 properly, from 80-140 in 5th I`d say its a little quicker than my 325d. In 4th it would comfprtably pull away. If I dropped to 3rd and hammered it past 100 then changed up and continued to floor it in 4th my E90 would be way, way behind. Honestly Carl and I`m someone who`s always said a mapped 335d would be quicker than a CSL.

[Scoot]

A M3 coupe is slighlty faster than a remapped 335D to a ton. A CSL would spank it IMO. CSL seems to be faster than the new RS4 . And if you got to the twisties you woundn't see which way it went.

[NFS]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

will do better than a 0-60 of 5.4?? what planet is he on???


if autocar did 5.8 then i did 5.5-5.6 stock

surely a re-mapped 335d will get into the 4's?

Carl

The official 0-60 for a 330cd was 7.2 secs

EVO got 6.1 secs from a DMS tuned one. So the overall reduction vs the stock time was 15.3%

The official time for the e90 335d is 6.2 secs.

If we assume that DMS can produce proportionately similar reductions you would see a remapped 335d managing 5.25 secs

I don't believe that the benefits would be entirely proportional as the quicker you get the harder it is to shave off time.

I think a repeatable performance for a remapped 335d would be around 5.3 secs.

Don't forget that any drag strip or other measured times have to be normalised for wind speed and altitude, to be comparable and evidence real ability.

[Steve A]

I know ive said this before but a had a straight line race with my pals CSL and it is not faster in a straight line.........however when we got the the twisties my car nose heavy and the car understeers like mad at any decent speed, the CSL stayed flat and precise, it was lovely to see:rocks:

[dxb335d]

I test drove a CSL and my friend who came with me said the 335d felt quicker?!

i felt that also, definately thru 40-120 anyhow, doesnt mean it is but felt like it!!

i was expecting the CSL to feel absolutely rampant but no... shame really

i think re-mapped one would not have much trouble with a csl


Carl

[mikem]

At the end of the day there both very quick cars and each has its own traits. The diesel feels very quick because you get that instant mid range shunt and it really does pin you back in the seat. The M3 needs more winding up but when you do its completely bonkers and feels as though its never going to run out of revs.

[RockIt]

Originally Posted by Steve Ashton

I know ive said this before but a had a straight line race with my pals CSL and it is not faster in a straight line.........however when we got the the twisties my car nose heavy and the car understeers like mad at any decent speed, the CSL stayed flat and precise, it was lovely to see:rocks:

For me it's much more important how a car handles the corners than the straight line speed. Anybody can point a powerful car in a straight line and get a result. O-62 times mean very little in the real world anyway and are really neither here or there. One of the great pleasures of driving my RX8 was its handling. The balance was superb, the feedback wonderful and the confidence that it inspired immense. We were lucky enough to be given a day of driver training at Prodrive and that was a real eye opener. It wasn't the quickest on the straights, but when it came to poking it around twisty roads it often left much more 'powerful' cars for dead. I've never driven a CSL, but I'm sure it would be a much more involving drive than the E92, which is a fabulous car in many respects, but for me, lacks a bit of that indefinable magic that makes a car a great drive rather than simply good.

[dxb335d]

Originally Posted by RockIt

For me it's much more important how a car handles the corners than the straight line speed. Anybody can point a powerful car in a straight line and get a result. O-62 times mean very little in the real world anyway and are really neither here or there. One of the great pleasures of driving my RX8 was its handling. The balance was superb, the feedback wonderful and the confidence that it inspired immense. We were lucky enough to be given a day of driver training at Prodrive and that was a real eye opener. It wasn't the quickest on the straights, but when it came to poking it around twisty roads it often left much more 'powerful' cars for dead. I've never driven a CSL, but I'm sure it would be a much more involving drive than the E92, which is a fabulous car in many respects, but for me, lacks a bit of that indefinable magic that makes a car a great drive rather than simply good.

ive driven a CSL and one word can describe the whole experiance



IMMENSE


The whole conept, from the lack of electric seats, the fact there propa kevlar bucket seats to the motorsport inspired carbon fibre door cards and roof and other lightening measures like the ''card'' boot:rocks:

the sound is awesome the way it just revs and revs... for me it is the M3 to OWN.. not a general standard one!!

this car should have been ''THE M3''

but i do feel it could have beeen so much quicker. Mid-range the 335d as stock would prob be with it.. but as you and other have said.. real-world situations it comes to whose got the ''bigger bollox'' or who is just plain

DAFT

but man situations i come across in day to day driving require some heavy acceleration and 0-62 times are applicable here, several times ive come out of a bend and out accelerated and overtook subsequently, type-r's, cooper-s'

and with the 335d cleary being a quicker car to 62 let alone 100mph i pulled away clearly..

like when i was behind a e39 m5, he could not drop me for love nor money, came to some bends still together out of the bend onto a straight i was still pushing him along

behind a e60 m5 it was a very very different kettle of fish

that thing left me standing

so in real world situations, acceleration is just as an important factor (if you drive fast that is) as having ''big bollox''

just look at the audi r8.. im very sure it would out handle an m5 touring quite easily, but the m5 touring is quicker than audis flagship model when rolling, whether be slip road, motorway or off a roundabout

just shows you how powerful the m5 is.. just puts the m5 vs rs4 into perspective...

the rs4 would get cained by a e60 m5!!!


Carlos

[NFS]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

but man situations i come across in day to day driving require some heavy acceleration and 0-62 times are applicable here, several times ive come out of a bend and out accelerated and overtook subsequently, type-r's, cooper-s'

and with the 335d cleary being a quicker car to 62 let alone 100mph i pulled away clearly..

0-60 is pretty much irrelevant 'coming out of a bend' - since the 0-60 time factors in 1st gear performance and in your example I very much doubt that you used first.

The better measure here would be in gear acceleration which is generally stronger for diesels.

Given that the type r and cooper s are both considerably slower than my 330i I'm not surprised you overtook some.

Plus they were probably being driven by people with common sense.